Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Android raptor]

I would just say brain activity != consciences.
Have been many documented "miracle" cases of low brain activity / no brain activity and patients make full recovery with everything intact.

Post them, because your starting to sound like Hollie Dance.

 

[Sam Hyde Simp]

Post them, because your starting to sound like Hollie Dance.

Let Me Google That

For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

 

[Android raptor]

Let Me Google That

For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.

letmegooglethat.com

Not seeing any miraculous recoveries of literally brainless fetuses, or braindead corpses with zero brain activity.

 

[Naerys]

Yeah if you’re gonna make wild claims about miracle recoveries, citation needed pal

 

[Sam Hyde Simp]

Not seeing any miraculous recoveries of literally brainless fetuses, or braindead corpses with zero brain activity.

Miraculous Cases of People Who Lived Without a Brain

One of the most mysteries places in our strange universe is our own bodies. Here within every one of us are vast realms of

mysteriousuniverse.org

Want me to read it out loud to you too?

 

[Naerys]

Miraculous Cases of People Who Lived Without a Brain

One of the most mysteries places in our strange universe is our own bodies. Here within every one of us are vast realms of

mysteriousuniverse.org

Want me to read it out loud to you too?

How about something credible with evidence of the claims?
Not to mention claiming one of the kids wildly discussed in this thread as a “miracle recovery” is certainly… a choice.

 

[Sam Hyde Simp]

How about something credible with evidence of the claims?
Not to mention claiming one of the kids wildly discussed in this thread as a “miracle recovery” is certainly… a choice.

I found that article in like 5 seconds. Suffice it to say there ARE cases and move discussion back.

Or we can play internet achiever and I can go retrieve you things to read until you are satisfied

 

[Android raptor]

Miraculous Cases of People Who Lived Without a Brain

One of the most mysteries places in our strange universe is our own bodies. Here within every one of us are vast realms of

mysteriousuniverse.org

Want me to read it out loud to you too?

Lol they have Jaxon Buell as one of their examples.

Highly recommend you read our archived thread on the Buells

Tl;dr Jaxon was a brainless spud incapable of anything but seizing and his parents were really, really blatant grifters. And he went to the big spud patch in the sky at less than 10 years old.

EDIT: lmaooo that article

Jaxon never said anything, and his parents would shove flashing toys and shit in his face to trigger seizures and claim it was concious movement. The parents never posted any videos showing any of the shit claimed in the article

 

[Naerys]

I found that article in like 5 seconds. Suffice it to say there ARE cases and move discussion back.

But it’s entirely un-credible and contains no hard evidence of the claims other than “trust me bro”.

Suffice to say, claiming something as fact without evidence is as trustworthy as a fox in a chicken coop.

 

[Sam Hyde Simp]

Lol they have Jaxon Buell as one of their examples.

Highly recommend you read the Buell thread on this subforum.

I understand their prolific examples, but the point remains these are not 'natural' and therefore 'miraculous' in that they rarely occur.

And thus satisfies my point that it is sometimes possible for these children to 'live' wither or not they should be allowed is the debate not IF they exist.

Which is why using a popular well known example proves my point quicker than pulling an esoteric personal anecdotes.

But it’s entirely un-credible and contains no hard evidence of the claims other than “trust me bro”.

Suffice to say, claiming something as fact without evidence is as trustworthy as a fox in a chicken coop.

So you're telling me there are NO documented, miracle cases--where brain activity was low to nonexistent, and then the patient made a seemingly 'miraculous' recovery?

Because if you are, then you're as brain dead as the babies here.

Not going to shoulder the burden of proof for someone that is going to fault find no matter what source I bring you.
Just suffice it to say Occam's razor is the best bet to solve this argument.

 

[GreenHell]

How about something credible with evidence of the claims?
Not to mention claiming one of the kids wildly discussed in this thread as a “miracle recovery” is certainly… a choice.

The only sources I can find on Aaron Murray are tabloids, one of which claims that he had 30 seizures a day until they put a shunt in his head. According to those same sources, his mom claims that he is now a "happy boy", and has started giggling and speaking words.

I'm calling Hartley shenanigans.

 

[Android raptor]

I understand their prolific examples, but the point remains these are not 'natural' and therefore 'miraculous' in that they rarely occur.

The only thing that kept Jaxon existing as long as he did is modern medicine. Cases like him rarely occur because thankfully, most people abort brainless fetuses, not carry them to term to grift McMansions from guilible fundies. Because most people aren't terrible like the Buells.

Also for as proud as daddy supposedly was of his spud, he sure dipped out once the grift started running dry.

 

[Naerys]

Not going to shoulder the burden of proof for someone that is going to fault find no matter what source I bring you.

When you claim something to be fact, the burden of proof is yours.

There are documented evidence of people suffering brain injury and recovering when the odds were against them, yes. But throughout my education in medical sciences and career in health care I most certainly have not seen any credible evidence of a child growing a brain that was missing at the time of their birth.

You’re making claims of “miracle recovery” and when asked for sources give woo woo articles of blatant lies that STILL can’t pretend any miracle recovery happened, just that someone lived a little longer and functioned slightly more than expected. That would not be a recovery. I feel like recovery should involve the ability to tie your own shoes if the word miracle is involved.

It’s not that I will fault with ANY source - I find fault with faulty sources. If you know of any scholarly evidence to support your claims I will happily reassess my opinions as one always should when new evidence is available. But the emphases there is on evidence.

Just suffice to say, you have provided nothing that comes close to validating your claims so they can not be considered when when coming to a conclusion about the topics at hand if someone places any amount of value on accuracy, authenticity, and not being full of shit. But sure. I’m brain dead because I don’t just take your word for it. Whatever you say buddy, since you’re clearly not open to the possibility that what you say is not the gospel truth. [/I]

 

[booklover]

That is absolutely terrifying...and totally could have been prevented!

Spoiler: Slight PL

my late Uncle had Polio, born late 40's. He died very young due to post polio syndrome. These antivax fucks are too young to really know how awful polio is

I saw a picture online of a man on a scooter with a sticker that said "0.0" (I've seen it elsewhere, as a parody of those "26.2" stickers for people who have completed a marathon) and another that said, "This is what polio looks like - VACCINATE."

 

[GenociderSyo]

So you're telling me there are NO documented, miracle cases--where brain activity was low to nonexistent, and then the patient made a seemingly 'miraculous' recovery?

Only cases I know that come close to this are children with rasmussen's syndrome who have hemispherectomies. If its done in infanthood the remaining brain will take over many of the abilities from the other side. If its done past toddlerhood they will definitely not gain those abilities and are guaranteed to have hemiplegia from it.

Plasticity of the brain in infants and very young children is really amazing, but they will not gain brain matter they do not have.

 

[booklover]

I have never heard of anyone adopting a child from Russia or Eastern Europe who didn't have big, big, BIG problems with them, usually due to reactive attachment disorder or any number of other similar related conditions.

I almost got banned from another board because a poster mentioned that her parents were thinking about adopting a child from this area, and I told her, "After the child arrives, your parents should sell everything they own, make a pile with the cash, and set it on fire, because that's what their lives will be like with all the therapists and legal issues they will face."

 

[GenociderSyo]

I have never heard of anyone adopting a child from Russia or Eastern Europe who didn't have big, big, BIG problems with them, usually due to reactive attachment disorder or any number of other similar related conditions.

Pretty much all international adoptions this is an issue. Reputable agencies will even state this on their websites and in their brochures.

 

[MysticMisty]

Also for as proud as daddy supposedly was of his spud, he sure dipped out once the grift started running dry.

I recall him hitting up the prolife circuit even after he had moved out to still make bucks off of Jaxon as a "miracle" "worth saving and keeping." Just not, y'know, in his house.

 

[Barbarella]

@Sam Hyde Simp Anybody can write any story. It doesn’t have to be true, it only needs to follow whatever outcome the writer decides will sell for the publication.

Using Jaxon as an example proves the writer was making it up, because we here all saw Jaxon and his (now gone) Facebook. Jaxon was only in the public eye for a couple of years, then got too sick and strange-looking to be shown anymore and later died. His father had grifted hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is why the parents worked so hard (taking pictures and videos from angles where it appeared he was aware, hiding his more terrifying seizures, etc.). He never sat up, said words, played with toys. He was blind, deaf and a brainless meat sack. Photos can fool the gullible, as Robyn tries to do. They don’t fool doctors.

Unless you give an example from a peer-reviewed medical journal, it’s meaningless.

I could write a made-up story about how well Luna is doing, how she plays with her brother, is learning to walk, eats a variety of foods and looks at books. I could pick the best photos from Robyn where it appears Luna has awareness, and write it using words like miracle, and somebody would absolutely publish it. Especially if it was a woo site whose real goal is selling fake medicine to gullible and desperate people.

Unless you find it on Pub Med, forget “articles.” The people who write those things are just like you and me and have no knowledge except what a parent tells them.

 

[booklover]

I recall him hitting up the prolife circuit even after he had moved out to still make bucks off of Jaxon as a "miracle" "worth saving and keeping." Just not, y'know, in his house.

He probably used Jaxon as a chick magnet.