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Has anyone read the book "Trans" by Helen Joyce?

Gonna blog a second. I will spoiler cuz I am just ranting not adding to the thread.

The TiM bathroom controversy finally hit very, very close to home a couple days ago. And the TiM might get some sweet older ladies fired so the company can avoid a discrimination suit. Anyway...


Always kinda skeptical but I fully believe one should live as they please as long as they are not imposing on others. The amount of MtFs has absolutely skyrocketed. Abandoned reddit. So I started lurking here and appreciate the freedom from censorship even though spme of you all say some real dumb shit, I am glad to see it live.

I am about half way through the book "Trans" and my blood is boiling. I do not ever want to validate any adult TiM because I feel like I am being forced to partake in their sexual fetish. I feel dirty. I feel mocked as a woman. I feel the younger trans people are being manipulated and it is sickening. They may or may not recover from it.
The book has a lot of transgender history and science, and so far proves that a huge number of mtfs are AGPs. I am sicked. This movement is breaking down equality for women, and people trying to be allies and advocate for equality are a lot of times unknowingly advocating the erasure of women.
I highly recommend Sheila Jeffrey's 'gender hurts' book too. I keep wanting to read the Helen Joyce one but hesitate.. it seems like quite a scary (?)/horrifying read.
 
I highly recommend Sheila Jeffrey's 'gender hurts' book too. I keep wanting to read the Helen Joyce one but hesitate.. it seems like quite a scary (?)/horrifying read.
It is a pretty short book, so when you have the guts it does lay out in a very plain and methodical path of the trans activist movement. Allies became pawns because there is money to be made perpetuating AGP while making trans people more accepted. If I were trans and read the book I would be livid myself, seeing psychological manipulation play out on my own mind and body. Not finished yet but I am just....horrified. I feel dirty for every time I called a MtF 'she' and 'ma'am' because I respect ppl despite not agreeing with them. The statistics of those TiMs who actually have AGP (and maybe not even know it due to vast acceptance as normal now) vs truly disconnected mind/body people...is astounding. Transgender surgery came about to essentially eliminate gay people, force them to be in a hetero relationship...until TiMs started their transition after marrying women and never being attracted to men....

Any time I have validated a TiM I now know there is a greater chance I was giving him jack off material rather than empathy, especially because I am a woman showing acceptance. AGP relies on becoming what they love, a form of narcissism, and if the women they both desire to have and to become accept them as women, they literally get sexual excitement firings in the brain. I feel sick.

I will add your book rec to my list. Kinda newly peaked. Overwhelming. Jesus.
 
I really hope they start plastering these cumbrained anime memes everywhere. It doesn't matter what the text says, anyone who makes/shares memes based on hentai is clearly fucking insane and male. Imagine the well-meaning handmaidens' puzzlement as they read these memes and realize that trannies are autistic men.
You say "abandon science" as if there isn't scientific stuff behind Trans stuff. You could always idk, do more research.

I don't agree with pushing this stuff on kids, I feel like children shouldn't really know the intense stuff about it, and it should be up to parents to teach their kids, or when the kids get old enough, they can search it on their own. But you guys are very nickpicky when it comes to the Trans people you choose the focus on. Not all Trans people or pushy, most really do just try to live their life, and maybe share experiences or other ways to feel comfortable with themselves.

When there's a group of people who are fighting for people to see them as equal, there's always going to be people who try to take advantage, like what you said with sports. But that will also go with concerns of Trans woman going into woman bathroom, and vice versa. There's going to be people who want to get those extra minority points, ya know. It happens with every minority because there are very shitty people out there, but we shouldn't count those people as part of whatever group they're trying to be apart of because they simply aren't part of that group.

I know this isn't in the order of your post, but about the whole "No life thing" it's hard to stay quiet when people are constantly shitting on you for existing. My last post did have a mean tone to it, and I'm sorry. I'll try to be more civil in the future. : )
nobody cares tranny stfu
 
"Scientifically speaking, [trans concentration camps are] a near-certainty at this point.":

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Entire post:

Erin's tweet OP referenced:

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That first one has such naturally attractive features but the dead-eyed stare and the unhealthy shade of pale just gives such an uncanny vibe. It is simply depressing.
First one is so much my type it's rather disconcerting. Looks like my wife's twin, if you ignore the hair colour.
 
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First one is so much my type it's rather disconcerting. Looks like my wife's twin, if you ignore the hair colour.
Looking at these crazy women as well as male troons, you can’t tell me there isn’t some kind of body dysmorphia thing going on. Maybe combined with autistic face blindness or something.

The gulf between a Mirkwood woman and a troon, or a man and these girls is the size of the Atlantic Ocean.

It goes well beyond a little wishful thinking.
 
MTG is nuttier than squirrel shit outside the pecan packing plant, but I wouldn't mind some of that stuff actually becoming the law.

There's plenty of people out there who have to pay out of pocket for their medical needs, and if I wanted to get plastic surgery, I'd have to find a way to scrape up the cash for it, too.

It pisses me off that a buddy of mine can't get a reduction because she's "not big enough and not suffering enough back pain" (trust me, kids, God was very generous to her, and as a home health aide for disabled people, they get in her way). Some "muh gender affirmation" 16 year old can get her barely B's hacked off, and start on installing a sausage roll, no problem.
 
Dumb strawman. Everybody knows that troons perform sex acts with other troons, because they can't get normal people.

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Is alok the guy who was insisting that ‘little girls are kinky?’ I’n still amazed these men can say that kind of thing publicly and not get absolutely eviscerated by the public. That’s should be a statement that shocks and horrifies people.
 
I can't find the post now, but someone said she started to peak trans upon noticing that on the Internet, where everyone was free to pursue whatever interests they wanted, masculine interests had plenty of TIMs but virtually no TIFs, the only feminine interests you'd see TIMs gravitate to were makeup and porn, and the unsexy feminine interests like crafting and fanfic had plenty of TIFs but not TIMs.

I'd add that online eating disorder communities have an alarming rate of TIFs (and turns out, pre-TIFs years ago), but even as the TIM population has grown, a TIM is still a rare sighting there.
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This isn't about expressing oneself. It's about reinventing oneself.
 
Bigoted employers, not wanting mentally ill narcissists and obsessive sexual deviants demanding customers and colleagues observe their cult rules! How very dare they!

Seriously if any job seeking troons are reading this, you will get a job if you show yourself to be as normal as possible. This means normal clothes, normal hair, normal speech.
Customers don’t like feeling uncomfortable. Colleagues don’t like being ideologically harassed.
Bosses don’t like losing custom and good workers because a troon is reeeeing around the place.
Be as normal as possible. Even as a troon you can achieve this.

I was at my local small town DMV and it's all women who work there. They all dress pretty dumpy/casual, like legit wearing sweatpants. So imagine my surprise when I see the back of an employee in a sensible heel, a modest pencil skirt, simple blouse, and very shiny well groomed hair. They turn around, and it's a middle age Troon. I hate troons, but I do commend them for wearing clothes that were appropriate for their age and for someone who works at a government office. But they were basically doing what you said, over compensating to be as normal & appropriate as possible, even though the actual women around him were land whale slobs.
 
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The face filter app is doing a pretty bad job of trying to feminize his blotchy face. His stubble is also barely visible on his face.

I can't tell if this is either sarcasm or if these people have reduced vision. :story:


Yes, you are extra "gay" and not in the lesbian way you coombrains are fantasizing about.
 
I was at my local small town DMV and it's all women who work there. They all dress pretty dumpy/casual, like legit wearing sweatpants. So imagine my surprise when I see the back of an employee in a sensible heel, a modest pencil skirt, simple blouse, and very shiny well groomed hair. They turn around, and it's a middle age Troon. I hate troons, but I do commend them for wearing clothes that were appropriate for their age and for someone who works at a government office. But they were basically doing what you said, over compensating to be as normal & appropriate as possible, even though the actual women around him were land whale slobs.
Yeah. Hanging out here and seeing the absolute warthog scrotum troons that infest and proliferate online does obscure the occasional quiet one that puts his/her head down and blends in as much as possible.

But those ones probably have the ability for self reflection and personal development, which is like, rare as fuck in the hysterical online ones.

Troons: If you’re wondering why you can’t get a job in one of the hottest western jobs markets of all time, it’s because you exude an aura of grossness and/or troublesomeness.
 
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