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It's also apparently her birthday and she's showing off a new model and its uh
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Maybe I'm extra retarded for caring about the models too much, but it just filters me so hard.

I used to watch her late last year / early this year before she switched models from this:
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to this:
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Can't really explain it, but i just lost interest in watching her from that. And it wouldn't even be so bad if she was alternating models, but it is the only one she has used for months.
And yes I can appreciate that people probably like the 'standard anime' style of model more than the one she had before, I just find the more 'experimental' models with different artstyles way more appealing.

Same situation with Pikamee for me by the way, although she atleast uses her old models from time to time over her 'isekai-pikamee' model.

Kson's 'twitch' model falls in the same vein, she seems to alternate it a bit as well tho.

So if any of you have recommendations for vtubers with cool-looking models please let me know, i'll stick to the unoffensive Holo / Niji style until then.

Apologies for the spergery, have some cute redemption menhera (good model included)
 
Maybe I'm extra retarded for caring about the models too much, but it just filters me so hard.

I used to watch her late last year / early this year before she switched models from this:
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to this:
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Can't really explain it, but i just lost interest in watching her from that. And it wouldn't even be so bad if she was alternating models, but it is the only one she has used for months.
And yes I can appreciate that people probably like the 'standard anime' style of model more than the one she had before, I just find the more 'experimental' models with different artstyles way more appealing.

Same situation with Pikamee for me by the way, although she atleast uses her old models from time to time over her 'isekai-pikamee' model.

Kson's 'twitch' model falls in the same vein, she seems to alternate it a bit as well tho.

So if any of you have recommendations for vtubers with cool-looking models please let me know, i'll stick to the unoffensive Holo / Niji style until then.

Apologies for the spergery, have some cute redemption menhera (good model included)
You're not the only one. My guess is unlike real life streamers where its mostly the personality / content that's the draw (excluding titty streamers) vtubers are a combination of content / personality and the vtuber model. Vtubers switching their model every few months to completely different styles throws me off and makes it hard for me to get invested in their streams.

I used to like Snuffy and GirlDM partly because their 3D models were so well done and expressive but Snuffy started going overboard with the coomer pandering and the neon bright colors you see on every shitty furry "OC do not steal™" character combined with her switching models every other week it feels like.

As for GirlDM her 2D model feels so stiff compared to her 3D model and the art style feels drastically different
 
Maybe I'm extra retarded for caring about the models too much, but it just filters me so hard.

I used to watch her late last year / early this year before she switched models from this:
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to this:
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Can't really explain it, but i just lost interest in watching her from that. And it wouldn't even be so bad if she was alternating models, but it is the only one she has used for months.
And yes I can appreciate that people probably like the 'standard anime' style of model more than the one she had before, I just find the more 'experimental' models with different artstyles way more appealing.

Same situation with Pikamee for me by the way, although she atleast uses her old models from time to time over her 'isekai-pikamee' model.

Kson's 'twitch' model falls in the same vein, she seems to alternate it a bit as well tho.

So if any of you have recommendations for vtubers with cool-looking models please let me know, i'll stick to the unoffensive Holo / Niji style until then.

Apologies for the spergery, have some cute redemption menhera (good model included)
Not sure what exactly constitutes a 'cool-looking' model to you, but I find ZonBko's model pretty endearing. Very nice voice, comfy streams - chatting/doodling, fully JP though.


On the English side of things - it might be a bit of a stretch, and I'm sure you've seen her mentioned here before, but Grimmi isn't super generically anime looking either.


She just started playing Cult Of The Lamb. The VOD seems to be only available on her YT archive channel and is only 360p - hopefully just a YT processing issue.
 
Not sure what exactly constitutes a 'cool-looking' model to you, but I find ZonBko's model pretty endearing. Very nice voice, comfy streams - chatting/doodling, fully JP though.


On the English side of things - it might be a bit of a stretch, and I'm sure you've seen her mentioned here before, but Grimmi isn't super generically anime looking either.


She just started playing Cult Of The Lamb. The VOD seems to be only available on her YT archive channel and is only 360p - hopefully just a YT processing issue.
It's probably just the eyes/hair contrast but Grimmi kind of reminds me of Yotsuya Miko from Mieruko-chan manga (which is a grotesque horror comedy).
 
It's probably just the eyes/hair contrast but Grimmi kind of reminds me of Yotsuya Miko from Mieruko-chan manga (which is a grotesque horror comedy).
She always reminds me of Tomoko from WataMote.
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Didn't see it mentioned here, but Kaela celebrated 400k by showing her voice range. She pretended to be her little sister "Ckia" and did a high-pitched cutesy voice the entire stream, very different from her usual voice.

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Well, maybe she is actually pretty anime looking after all.
Excuse me, I didn't mean to contradict you, only to point out an amusing resemblance. Anime characters with this sleepy/disheveled look aren't super common so I wouldn't call Grimmi or Tomoko "generically anime looking" either.
 
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It's probably just the eyes/hair contrast but Grimmi kind of reminds me of Yotsuya Miko from Mieruko-chan manga (which is a grotesque horror comedy).
After looking it up, I can really see that. Might give the manga a read, I really liked the anime adaptation - the ghosts designs were pretty neat, especially the miko shrine spirits.
She always reminds me of Tomoko from WataMote.
Well, maybe she is actually pretty anime looking after all. Sorry @fxdn89, couldn't really think of anyone else - I'm actually not that into non-anime looking models myself. I even like Isekai Pikamee.
 
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Why the Kiwilers looks like the minis Nijisanji uses in collab when they dont want to use their live2d, can we make one for Nool that wiggle when he talks in the mic for MATI?

I knew he was retarded. Probably has brain damage.
Perfect candidate for the house of broken bois
 
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Vox calls Sonny's mom a whore (in a joking manner)
Chinks don't take it lightly and are mad that Vox would disrespect someone's mother.
Could be trolls, could be antis, could be people genuinely mad about it.
It looks like it's a mix of everything, to be honest. There has already been a whole ordeal of vox antis spreading mistranslated clips on bilibili and this just added fuel to the fire, so I wouldn't be surprised if antis and trolls decided to make a big ruckus out of this.

The clip of Sonny saying it was a joke and that if he was angry or upset then he'd deal with it and that fans should stay out of it is circulating and people are spreading that now. There are still some upset that he called Sonny's mom a whore at all and are saying that it doesn't matter if there is a "cultural difference" because the remark was still rude. A lot of the people upset want him to apologize, but I don't really see the need to. Maybe I'm wrong and this will be his downfall, but this just seems like such a little thing to be upset over. Then again, chinks are known to overreact, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
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I knew he was retarded. Probably has brain damage.
He might have brain damage, or just be academically lazy, but when he likes someone he's willing to throw down even if it is for a teacher. Time stamped from his most recently Zatsu when he was talking about this very supportive English teacher and he and his classmates barged into a classroom to force an apology out "this one little fucker" in Axel's words.


This man is literally the delinquent with a heart of gold anime trope. He is Kuwabara and Kuwabara was awesome in YYH.
 
This thread really likes Axel more than Altare, huh? You hate to see it.

Because I don't think I've seen it posted about yet, at 11 P.M. EDT Gura, Kronii, Mumei and Bae are doing an "urban dictionary challenge"... whatever that means. I have high hopes, this could be one of the funniest streams yet.
 
Did you guys know Shiina is playing ace combat 7 on twitch? I didn't, don't even remember why I opened twitch lol.
The Hot-ass TrhustingMaster seems like a pretty hard controller to use for AceCombat. She kinda sucks at it but overall it was a fun stream. Shiina is like Pippa in that she can have a stream where she just talks about random shit and she is still fun to watch and interact with.

I feel like marshmallows are pretty easy to abuse because most EN fans don't really know they exist. So a few haters can appear really prominent.
Not sure what happened but probably dumb shit.

did any of you happen to archive tony tiger st ream by any chance
I heard about this from a few Twitter posts but I never got to watch it.

Sasuga, unitychad reporter! I do feel for them, but that's how the game goes.

Sneaking of which, does anyone else have any :optimistic: Hololive and Nijisanji EN dream collabs? I feel like Mumei and Enna could be magical.
I would like Enna and Kronii but I feel like people would start concernfagging it up if Kronii laughs or joins in on the depression/suicide jokes.

Is it wrong that I want Pippa to do a stream about keffals just so that the shit supercell keeps getting bigger?
It could be an amazing stream but I doubt Fishman would let it happen.

The awful journalist doing the Silvervale article has changed it once more to try and deflect things away from her and vshitshow! https://archive.ph/tGlBT

The version before that where they randomly added Nijisanji is in https://archive.ph/QWgxz and the original is https://archive.ph/aaxSS
At this point it seems like everyone bitching at this guy if he changes things or not is giving the article more traction and bringing more attention to it. Would be nice if people just ignored dumb shit so that they would fade into obscurity.

Well, Fishman should be pretty happy it looks like Gen2 is success at this point, all of Gen2 has passed the 10k subscriber milestone, the last was Rie late last night early this morning.



I was going to go numbernigger, but I just throw out some general statements. Overall they are all building viewer bases, some in previously untapped time slots like Erina with her late US timed streams, or underused time slots like Shiina and her earlier streaming slot. Panko's usual slot has kept her out of collabs, but being earlier in the day seems to be bearing fruit for her even though she is often streaming during Tenma's streams. It's nice to see that Airi is succeeding in building her own viewer base despite having to stream in the same time slots as PIppa due her IRL work schedule, she's putting in a lot of work and it's showing. Remi's bouncing around and time wise is annoying, she really needs to settle down pick a time slot and stick with it (except for collabs). Rie is growing despite being mostly off line this month.

IMHO, if there is one thing that Gen2 is doing that is actually slowing their growth is their production of free content (twitter spaces) and putting too much time into discord. The ones that have hosted a lot of twitter spaces have the slowest growth, Airi be the exception, but she more than makes up for that with streams which results in lack of sleep. The upside of those is that it tightens the link between them and their existing viewers (increasing the likelihood of donations and donation amounts), but it doesn't grow their channels and would likely be time better used to rest and/prep other steaming content or produced VODs. I can see Rie having to do that due to not streaming much this month, and Remi doing so to tighten up those bonds and produce material not appropriate for Youtube, due to focusing on a GFE. But the rest of them really need to focus on channel growth on Youtube and Twitch if they wish to get to the point where they have a decent income from their Vtubing.
My main problem/concern with Phase is that a really large group of the viewers jump from talent to talent. So while there is brand loyalty, they should probably start looking to target new niche audiences or to look into pulling viewers from Holo/Niji/Vshojo.

You're not the only one. My guess is unlike real life streamers where its mostly the personality / content that's the draw (excluding titty streamers) vtubers are a combination of content / personality and the vtuber model. Vtubers switching their model every few months to completely different styles throws me off and makes it hard for me to get invested in their streams.

I used to like Snuffy and GirlDM partly because their 3D models were so well done and expressive but Snuffy started going overboard with the coomer pandering and the neon bright colors you see on every shitty furry "OC do not steal™" character combined with her switching models every other week it feels like.

As for GirlDM her 2D model feels so stiff compared to her 3D model and the art style feels drastically different
I enjoy it whenever Pippa changes her colors up. I also enjoy Lumi having about 3 different models (all which are fairly similar) but if they are super different I don't like them.




Pippa clip tax
 
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