The HBO Max/Discovery Griefing Thread - look how they massacred my boys

[Kramer on the phone]

if HBO didn't want to piss people off they'd at least let people know before pulling them. obviously it would mean people pirating the fuck out of them, but now people will just try to torrent the entire library. its a fuck load more doable now too, we're down to $20/TB for externals, $10/TB in tape, $5/TB for compressed tape.

thats 500 hours of hd video, for less than the price of a meal. and we all know most of the best stuff wasn't or wouldn't be available in 4k.

 

[TVB]

Seasame Street come 2024/5 I expect Netflix or Disney to try for them now, unless WBD has some plan for them which none of us are wise of and total makes sense which I doubt.

Wasn't Warner Bros. (and also MGM) releasing a Sesame Street movie featuring Chance the Rapper sometime next year, or is it cancelled?

 

[namelesstacotruck]

Discovery wants easy fast money and funding animation cost more money than some cheap reality show or whatnot.

Animation is the middle tier. Actual movies still cost more unless your doing indie movies with nobodies but those dont scale to ips that sell toys and merch.

Reality shows tend to have best ROI and speed to market. That also lets them survive with less overall viewers.

Also many of the projects being cancelled just were not profitable. I see the list and i dont know anyone who watched any of those shows (i sure as fuck didnt)

Recession is here. Investors want ROI now. Fucking around to get market share or market control is over. Projects need to make money.

 

[Product Placement]

Wasn't Warner Bros. (and also MGM) releasing a Sesame Street movie featuring Chance the Rapper sometime next year, or is it cancelled?

No news if that is canceled but seems it was meant to start filming in 2020 but then covid happened and it never started up again.

Lot of WB movies in question now, got stuff like Lethal Weapon 5 and a new Final Destination which were gong to get made for HBO Max but no info if those projects will now be made for cinemas or they are just dead. Then have movies like Evil Dead Rise and House Party which are fully done and due out this year for HBO Max however has been no news at all in the past few months,

But for cinemas they also planned movies such as Beetlejuice 2, Hourman, lots of Crazy Rich Asian movies, a Funko pop movie, Demolition Man 2, Under Siege remake among many others which are doubtful will ever see the light of day. We really have no idea what type of movies we will see under WBD outside the ones that are still shooting and haven't been closed down or done and already planned for the cinema.

But speaking of MGM, this happened a few days ago

Warner Bros Forms Multi-Year Pact To Distribute MGM Movies Overseas Beginning With ‘Bones And All’, ‘Creed III’; How Bond Will Be Handled​

Warner Bros Forms Multi-Year Pact To Distribute MGM Movies Overseas Beginning With ‘Bones And All’, ‘Creed III’; How Bond Will Be Handled

EXCLUSIVE: Two months into their run as Warner Bros Pictures Group Co-Chairs and CEOs, Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy, have hammered out a multi-year deal to handle the international distribution …

deadline.com

 

[TVB]

No news if that is canceled but seems it was meant to start filming in 2020 but then covid happened and it never started up again.

Lot of WB movies in question now, got stuff like Lethal Weapon 5 and a new Final Destination which were gong to get made for HBO Max but no info if those projects will now be made for cinemas or they are just dead. Then have movies like Evil Dead Rise and House Party which are fully done and due out this year for HBO Max however has been no news at all in the past few months,

But for cinemas they also planned movies such as Beetlejuice 2, Hourman, lots of Crazy Rich Asian movies, a Funko pop movie, Demolition Man 2, Under Siege remake among many others which are doubtful will ever see the light of day. We really have no idea what type of movies we will see under WBD outside the ones that are still shooting and haven't been closed down or done and already planned for the cinema.

But speaking of MGM, this happened a few days ago

Warner Bros Forms Multi-Year Pact To Distribute MGM Movies Overseas Beginning With ‘Bones And All’, ‘Creed III’; How Bond Will Be Handled​

Warner Bros Forms Multi-Year Pact To Distribute MGM Movies Overseas Beginning With ‘Bones And All’, ‘Creed III’; How Bond Will Be Handled

EXCLUSIVE: Two months into their run as Warner Bros Pictures Group Co-Chairs and CEOs, Michael De Luca and Pamela Abdy, have hammered out a multi-year deal to handle the international distribution …

deadline.com

Including the sequel to the 2018 boring as fuck Tomb Raider movie, which I know that one will be cancelled for good given that Embracer Group is set to purchase Eidos and Crystal Dynamics IPs. Plus, nobody's going to watch a sequel to a boring mess of a movie.

 

[Product Placement]

Including the sequel to the 2018 boring as fuck Tomb Raider movie, which I know that one will be cancelled for good given that Embracer Group is set to purchase Eidos and Crystal Dynamics IPs. Plus, nobody's going to watch a sequel to a boring mess of a movie.

That is no longer happening, MGM took too long and lost the rights, so now a bidding war for the cinema rights to Tomb Raider. I'm kind of expecting someone like Netflix to win, or maybe Paramount with how Sonic has been a big hit for them.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tomb-raider-movie-alicia-vikander-1235188890/

 

[A-Stump]

a Funko pop movie

I hope everyone who goes to see that sits on an AIDS needle

 

[TVB]

That is no longer happening, MGM took too long and lost the rights, so now a bidding war for the cinema rights to Tomb Raider. I'm kind of expecting someone like Netflix to win, or maybe Paramount with how Sonic has been a big hit for them.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/tomb-raider-movie-alicia-vikander-1235188890/

Yes! Finally, 2022 is officially a great year. #RIPBOZO

But even then, Embracer was already set to purchase Eidos and Crystal IPs, so of course a sequel was going to get cancelled. Remember how there was a Legend of Chun-Li sequel, and then that was cancelled.

 

[Product Placement]

Yes! Finally, 2022 is officially a great year. #RIPBOZO

But even then, Embracer was already set to purchase Eidos and Crystal IPs, so of course a sequel was going to get cancelled. Remember how there was a Legend of Chun-Li sequel, and then that was cancelled.

Embracer have nothing to do with it, if someone has the movie rights really not much they could do anyway unless the other company broke the agreement. But GK Films own the rights, they bought it in 2012 or 13 from Sqaure Enix, they just licensed those rights to MGM who had to make a movie within so many years or they would go back to GK Films to shop around again. It's pretty common thing, same deal with the movie rights to Lord of the Rings or Spiderman.

Also Legend of Chun-Li was a huge bomb making just over $10 million on a $50 million budget which is why it didn't get a follow up. TR did about $280 million on a $110million budget, so not bad by any means but far from a huge hit, but the reasons MGM didn't get the project off the ground has more to do with Covid delays and then the creatives such as Ben Wheatley dropping out of the project thus setting it back.

 

[TVB]

Embracer have nothing to do with it, if someone has the movie rights really not much they could do anyway unless the other company broke the agreement. But GK Films own the rights, they bought it in 2012 or 13 from Sqaure Enix, they just licensed those rights to MGM who had to make a movie within so many years or they would go back to GK Films to shop around again. It's pretty common thing, same deal with the movie rights to Lord of the Rings or Spiderman.

Also Legend of Chun-Li was a huge bomb making just over $10 million on a $50 million budget which is why it didn't get a follow up. TR did about $280 million on a $110million budget, so not bad by any means but far from a huge hit, but the reasons MGM didn't get the project off the ground has more to do with Covid delays and then the creatives such as Ben Wheatley dropping out of the project thus setting it back.

I understand Embracer has nothing to do with it, and that is not my point. I'm just saying a sequel to said movie was cancelled because, let's face it, it's a bad movie and a proper sequel to it would be even more of a disaster. I'm better off anticipating for whatever the next magnum opus made by Seltzerberg, because as shitty as those movies are, they at least had shit happening.

 

[TVB]

I'm kind of expecting someone like Netflix to win, or maybe Paramount with how Sonic has been a big hit for them.

Interesting fact, Paramount at one point had the rights to the Tomb Raider movies with Jolie as Lara Croft. The second one failed at the box office once Angel of Darkness was rushed to stores, which explains CORE selling the IP to Eidos and eventually having WB and MGM getting film rights later on in the decade. So maybe Paramount could get the rights back.

 

[Product Placement]

Interesting fact, Paramount at one point had the rights to the Tomb Raider movies with Jolie as Lara Croft. The second one failed at the box office once Angel of Darkness was rushed to stores, which explains CORE selling the IP to Eidos and eventually having WB and MGM getting film rights later on in the decade. So maybe Paramount could get the rights back.

CORE didn't sell the IP, they were bought by Eidos in 1996. After Angle of Darkness bombed Eidos moved the series over to Crystal Dynamics and in 2006 sold the remaining assets of CORE to Rebellion Developments, CORE were closed down in 2010.

 

[TVB]

CORE didn't sell the IP, they were bought by Eidos in 1996. After Angle of Darkness bombed Eidos moved the series over to Crystal Dynamics and in 2006 sold the remaining assets of CORE to Rebellion Developments, CORE were closed down in 2010.

Again, my point being Paramount blamed Angel of Darkness' failure as the reason why the second Jolie movie tanked, which sold its IPs to Crystal, while movie rights were sold to WB and MGM many years later.

 

[Product Placement]

Again, my point being Paramount blamed Angel of Darkness' failure as the reason why the second Jolie movie tanked, which sold its IPs to Crystal, while movie rights were sold to WB and MGM many years later.

I didn't say anything about why the movie flopped, I just said how you wrong about them selling the ip, something again you have just said but switching the dev up to Crystal Dynamics.

Also movie rights were never sold to WB and MGM just licensed which is why they lost it.

 

[Commander X]

Do guys in Cali not know about the existence of torrents?

We all live in this heckin' capitalist hellword WTF MY BOSSES DELETED MY CARTOONS

 

[starborn427614]

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Do guys in Cali not know about the existence of torrents?
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We all live in this heckin' capitalist hellword WTF MY BOSSES DELETED MY CARTOONS

It's probably best not to advertise piracy while you're still working (presumably) in the industry.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

It's probably best not to advertise piracy while you're still working (presumably) in the industry.

idk man that is pretty based

 

[starborn427614]

idk man that is pretty based

Sure, but if being based could pay the bills that would be a better world.

 

[SBG]

Can someone explain why HBO merging with Discover means that all of these shows are now disappearing. I don't quite understand whats going on, it's not like after these companies merge the monster that comes out of it won't own these properties.

I just really don't understand the sperging or the ultimate decision behind the sperging.

New guy by the name of Zaslav is in charge and they're going with the pretty simple mindset of HBOMax having mostly appealed to men with stuff like their DC properties and Discovery mostly appealing to women with their reality TV shows.

He seems like he's wanting to lean into that while also giving up the idea of direct to streaming movies that cost a fortune like was done with Suicide Squad 2 and the Matrix sequel, since it skips out on the opportunity to earn money at the box office.

Dumping the kid's cartoons seems like them abandoning the idea of having programming for people of all ages, probably a result of them actually looking at the numbers regarding how often the stuff was watched. Stuff like Doom Patrol is probably safe as it's aimed at adults and fits with the goal of appealing to the comic book crowd.

The sperging going on is because the shitty bean mouth cartoons had gotten to be kept alive on the platform and let idiots make believe that these cartoons were extremely popular even though kids would likely rather watch more Teen Titans Go.

This was a slide that came out that revealed a bit about their thinking.



Also checking some of the cartoons tossed I noticed the Aquaman thing, which was yet more bean mouth. Looks like all calarts is being banished in favor of more normal stuff.

 

[Commander X]

What this mess with HBO has shown is the real dread lies with creators realizing they depend on these higher-up execs at these networks and streaming services and no matter how hard they work or how much people like their creations, their shows are going to be seen as a very disposable nothing product by the same suits who allowed them to happen to begin with,

Also, viewers and other people relying on streaming services to be like libraries even as they've shown they'll yank shows off for the most arbitrary reasons is a bad idea.