Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Because rabid trans activists screeched until all gatekeeping was removed. And as you can see on Reddit, troons are telling each other that genital butchering is "medically necessary".

They've made their entire movement backfire with their batshit insanity. I don't know a single person that isn't trans that thinks this is alright. People aren't understanding the reality of the surgery and its impacts, short and long term. The "gatekeeping" PROTECTED people from making disastrous mistakes. The amount of "detrans" individuals coming out is clear evidence of that. You'll never have your breasts back, you'll never have functional genitals, you may have destroyed your voice, trashed your bone density; you'll never be 100% ever again due to the lack of "gatekeeping".

And I've touched on this before ITT, but natal women should have priority over hormone treatments. They should also have coverage for mastectomies and boobs jobs after, if they choose to do so, for psychological reasons. They shouldn't have to fight for medically needed hysterectomies. Why trans people get ALL that handed to them and covered by insurance and/or the taxpayers is beyond me and ridiculous. They shouldn't have a priority or ease, the natal women should. Of course, you can apply the same to men and male specific health issues. Natal men and women should have priority over sex specific care, not thrown on unstable trans people that are doing all this for tumblr/twitter point racking kicks. /rant, hand over the puzzles and hats.

Also, some years ago I had read an article that gender dysphoria can be triggered by schizophrenia. Encouraging SRS in a severe mental illness like that is sick. It's almost like gatekeeping protected the vulnerable...
 
I just realized his face reminds me of Bobby Hill and now I can't unsee it.
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"That boy ain't right!"

How did nobody make that joke yet?
 
I don't understand why going through extensive therapy and psych evaluations has been done away with for transitioning, especially for SRS. It used to be you were grilled for some time to make sure that yes, this is a treatment option for you.. though I will never understand removing your functioning genitalia, as sex and the pleasure from it is part of the human experience, not to mention SRS is still VERY much in its infancy, hence the nightmare fuel posted in this thread...that's just my cisgender shitlord comment on that.

If you're going to surgically destroy yourself to have your gender match your sex, it should be MANDATORY you get extensive psych evals well beforehand. Less of a financial waste on taxpayers, the person themselves, and less waste of resources. The current system is a joke and ultimately causes more harm for all than it benefits.

I had someone in my extended social circle many years ago who was a TiM.

This was the process at the time (for him, at least… which seemed to be standard), and a psychologist was a mandatory part of the process.

1. Live and present as a woman for at least 6 months to 1 year. This was a source of angst, since he was quite obviously male, but needed to wear wigs and dresses and be “out.”

2. After successfully fulfilling being out, HRT was approved.

3. A minimum of one year on HRT before the application process for SRS. Psych testing was mandatory, and two independent referrals were needed. 2 therapists in the same practice, for example, couldn’t collude to write reports.

4. Minimum physical requirements… ie BMI limits, no untreated chronic health conditions… a clean physical and ECG to confirm readiness for surgery.

It was a process. But it certainly thinned out those who weren’t in it for the long haul, and for who it was a passing phase.

Sometime between the 90s and now the gatekeepers have abandoned their posts.
 
I had someone in my extended social circle many years ago who was a TiM.

This was the process at the time (for him, at least… which seemed to be standard), and a psychologist was a mandatory part of the process.

1. Live and present as a woman for at least 6 months to 1 year. This was a source of angst, since he was quite obviously male, but needed to wear wigs and dresses and be “out.”

2. After successfully fulfilling being out, HRT was approved.

3. A minimum of one year on HRT before the application process for SRS. Psych testing was mandatory, and two independent referrals were needed. 2 therapists in the same practice, for example, couldn’t collude to write reports.

4. Minimum physical requirements… ie BMI limits, no untreated chronic health conditions… a clean physical and ECG to confirm readiness for surgery.

It was a process. But it certainly thinned out those who weren’t in it for the long haul, and for who it was a passing phase.

Sometime between the 90s and now the gatekeepers have abandoned their posts.
And that should be the norm, but here we are with detrans regret and wasted medical resources.
 
The psych evals literally no longer exist in some places. I'm telling you. It isn't just that troons protested until the evals went away, it's that you may not even be able to get them if you ask.

I used to live in Troonlandia West, USA and now have a couple of detransitioned female acquaintances (and had many more "trans" acquaintances when I lived there) and both literally asked for long term therapy (or to be referred) when going to get their "letter" from a therapist for HRT. They both were like "I'm also depressed/hate my body/hate women/was molested/etc." They both were told by the woman (same therapist) to just get on T and see how they felt since maybe that was the real source of their distress.

They were asking out loud for extra help, for actual psychological evaluation, and were told to just take testosterone and had no follow-ups. And you know what's really weird? The appointments were both free.
 
>>Graz
>>Conchita Wurst
>>Arnie
>>Fasching
>>folk polka like music industry focusing on heimatmusik with 8k instruments a la ziehharmonica
>>Vacationing in Czech and slovania
>>mountains and gipfelkreuze
>>rich wine heirs getting pushed into folk music
>>alcoholics

Austria. And they do have good wine.
This was easy. Though, they do get forgotten about a lot. They're a bit more conservative then Germany though, a lot slower too, so they might start thinking about self id in the next decade. Maybe two. Wouldn't start on those protest signs just yet.

100%. Who’d a thunk that the country that produced Hitler and Fritzl might be kinda weird? Plus, Mozart was a troon. Probably. Well he was a faggot looking stage kid who 41’ed at age 37, so kinda stacks up.

Tim Petras - not only is his body bloating and breaking down but so is his music “career”. He just had his entire major label album binned by the label, presumably because the songs were so embarrassingly shit. Which, given the rest of his recent oevre, must be plumbing some major depths.

I personally find it creepy that so many of Tims songs are about the joys of sex when it’s highly unlikely he’s ever had an orgasm in his life.
 
He just had his entire major label album binned by the label, presumably because the songs were so embarrassingly shit.
Really? :story:

Well, at least he can settle down & have kids...oh wait no, he is a fucking stunted gay enuch. All he can do is getting fatter & more masculine while desperately trying to pretend that his male fridge body & baldness is sexy.

And it's not just him but every single man who has been trooned out at an early age. They are all going to become masculine & probably hideous. Hideous because their bodies were unable to go to normal puberty & yet they are slowly masculinizing but they won't ever look like they were supposed to. Just look at Tim's weird giant head & tiny pig eyes.
 
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100%. Who’d a thunk that the country that produced Hitler and Fritzl might be kinda weird? Plus, Mozart was a troon. Probably. Well he was a faggot looking stage kid who 41’ed at age 37, so kinda stacks up.

Tim Petras - not only is his body bloating and breaking down but so is his music “career”. He just had his entire major label album binned by the label, presumably because the songs were so embarrassingly shit. Which, given the rest of his recent oevre, must be plumbing some major depths.

I personally find it creepy that so many of Tims songs are about the joys of sex when it’s highly unlikely he’s ever had an orgasm in his life.
Yeah, I was just looking up this one profile of this dude with a band. Old dude, wife in her 60s, AND a fat bald younger male lover, a surrogate daughter with the aforementioned gay male lover, many other older children, numerous danger-hair teen "foster children"-- mostly sexy boy twinks. There are definitely some questionable gendered-children in that bunch, the one surrogate daughter in particular.

The massive wave of troon out will happen in Austria in the next few years. I predict the girls will do this en masse, as they are deemed non-people in that culture, and will see trooning out as a way to become visible. Only the men inherit the wine properties and land, it seems. I'm not sure how far the trooning of boys will go, since they seem to really LOVE chicks with dicks over there. At least the boy penises are safe, unless they suddenly realize their sons might have a better shot becoming big in Opera if they get castrated. I hope to God they don't think of this. They will, though.

Yes, the old dude also seems to own wine property and BREEDS DOGS, German Shepherds. That means he's rich and can get away with anything, at least in rural South Eastern Austria. The dog customers write some weird shit, "I love this dog we purchased from you guys! She's beautiful inside and out!" Jesus, I hope the dogs are safe.

Horrified. And the wife posts gushing things about how she's so in love with her husband of 30 years, all the lederhosen-wearing popular local musicians all "loving" her post, the handmaidens as well. . She's a nice obeident wife, I guess, and they love the idea of women accepting their role as doormat while hubby chases boy ass all over the Alps, brings the lover home, then hands their love surrogate-baby to her to raise. I can't make this shit up. Big Momma gets to change the dirty diapers. Old fat bald husband is rubbing his fattie favorite butt boy and his surrogate-baby all over Facebook declaring "Love is LOVE!" ... and the locals all know it and cheer him on. She was raised in Croatia, maybe she's a War Bride and her bar is so low it's in Hell.

This modern gay acceptance shit is just used as a battering ram to stick the bitches in their places. "Don't criticize! That's hate speech! I will call the police about your homophobia! Love is LOVE!" Any dude who identifies as GAY is suddenly a protected minority, of course, as are his bizarre sex parties, live-in lovers, and expensive vacations with the boys----and the men over there love it and use it to make their female partners even more humiliated and mortified. No wonder the homicide death rate of women is so high there, the cops don't care, they're all terrified to step out of line, and people don't call this crap out.

The cops and politicians are all turbo macho fags, so don't bother calling them for help if your husband is trying to stab you or slams your head into a wall. This includes the self described conservative right wing cops and politicians, the left wing ones, and the in-between ones. The social services are all tied to Catholic turbo pederasts. The firefighters are all turbo macho fags. It's fucking hilarious and insane. Just check out one of their many Firefighter station FB pages, just look at the employees, check out their profiles. 90% of the dudes are macho gay, often with small children from short lived relationships with women (that they tricked into breeding). It's predictable and Stepford-Wife tier weird. It almost seems as if working for the fire brigade is like some special role that "special people" are allowed to have. You need to be rich and connected to become one, as it's some kind of "volunteer" role that isn't paid the way it is the US. It's as if they get their male sugar daddies to get them jobs at the fire department so they can ride the big trucks on the taxpayer dime.

I'm not shocked the locals circled their wagons when their Sainted Married Gay Club Romping Politician died in a car wreck on October 11, 2008: they KNEW the whole subculture of wife beating musical macho faggots and child pimping pederasts would become world headlines if his particular background and friend groups were investigated more intensely. If I remember correctly, an elderly "bachelor" took him under his wing when he was a fresh young boy, and that was supposedly how he inherited wealth. He was groomed to be a politician, Greek or Roman Elitist Gay-style, straight from the nursery as a boy. This is the way they live.

I'm particularly mortified at the thought of how many low-income boys are probably trafficked, exploited, and/or abused in that particular region. The wealthy predate very easily as libel laws favor them, and the laws protect sex offenders.

I once thought the author, Elfriede Jelinek, was making shit up in her books based on her childhood environment-- because her male characters are often comic-tier villains, but she was actually being kind.
Now I also realize why my great grandmother left that idyllic place as a teenager, by herself, to move to DETROIT.
 
Another cope story from d00leys!
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This one has some pretty fun cope comments from her.
My favorites are:

"what I realized: the sensitive spots on my penis are still bigger than my clitoris ever was. So despite some parts of my dick still being numb, I currently still have more sensitive surface area on my genitals than I did pre-op."
"I currently definitely don't feel like I lost anything."
"I expect that in the end I will actually have more sensation than I started out with :-)"
Oh d00leys… if cope could be converted to energy, you could power a small country alone.

The comparison with his younger self is insane. I wonder what he'll look like in another few years.
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I swear if he stayed as a boy he would've still made for an ugly man. His life is gonna get quite hard in a few years when he gets so masculine he can't just Photoshop it away.

Poor child was promised he could be a real girl who the boys would all adore. Now he gets to look in the mirror and slowly see more clearly as time progresses that he's just a balding, man-faced eunuch no guy will ever really love. Fuck his parents.

In fact, that's what gets me about all the Troon parents. They look their own flesh and blood in the eye and promise him that he will be treated as a real girl. That he can have the ideal female experiences of having boys like you, getting fawned over, getting boyfriends, getting married, etc. These parents know full well they are lying to their children. How could someone be so cruel to their own child. Most teenage boys and adult men are disgusted at TiMs now let alone back when Kim and Jazz were transitioned.

These troon parents are so fucking evil.
He was one of the very first puberty-blocked kids who was trooned out in his teens (or the first famous one, anyway), so for all we know, they actually believed it themselves: that they could turn their effeminate son into more sociably acceptable pop star daughter. Not an excuse, but they could have just been really stupid.
Of course, if they wanted to find examples of actual outcomes for castrated boys, they could have looked at Chinese eunuchs, or Italian castrati, but they probably aren’t aware of what anyone’s doing outside of twenty-first century Europe. Or they might have thought that modern medicine can produce better trannies than what they used to get.

I don't understand why going through extensive therapy and psych evaluations has been done away with for transitioning, especially for SRS. It used to be you were grilled for some time to make sure that yes, this is a treatment option for you.. though I will never understand removing your functioning genitalia, as sex and the pleasure from it is part of the human experience, not to mention SRS is still VERY much in its infancy, hence the nightmare fuel posted in this thread...that's just my cisgender shitlord comment on that.

If you're going to surgically destroy yourself to have your gender match your sex, it should be MANDATORY you get extensive psych evals well beforehand. Less of a financial waste on taxpayers, the person themselves, and less waste of resources. The current system is a joke and ultimately causes more harm for all than it benefits.
I’m sure a lot of it is money, and the prospect of having more people to experiment on (so they can develop new techniques, and potentially get famous). Even as far back as 2015, some doctors were coercing patients into being SRS test subjects.

There was also the emergence of online forums and social media, and people like this guy, who bought the url transexual.org, so he could teach people how to cheat on the psych evaluation. After a bunch a people kept giving the same answers, they probably figured that there wasn’t a point in having one anymore.
 
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I have a lot of unanswered questions about Austria.

I’ve seen two troon takes on detrans people: one is that they’re still trans and detransitioning solely because of transphobia, and the other is that they were never trans at all. Can’t be both!

Does anyone know when surgeries and hormones for minors starting happening?
 
Another cope story from d00leys!
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This one has some pretty fun cope comments from her.
My favorites are:

"what I realized: the sensitive spots on my penis are still bigger than my clitoris ever was. So despite some parts of my dick still being numb, I currently still have more sensitive surface area on my genitals than I did pre-op."
"I currently definitely don't feel like I lost anything."
"I expect that in the end I will actually have more sensation than I started out with :-)"
Totally did not have "I now objectively have a greater surface area I define as 'genitals' with some sensation of feeling" cope as something I would see. But now that I have I want to see a map and graphs and calculations in one of these posts. Debunk those fascist TERF lies with mathematical proofs!
 
Really? :story:

Well, at least he can settle down & have kids...oh wait no, he is a fucking stunted gay enuch. All he can do is getting fatter & more masculine while desperately trying to pretend that his male fridge body & baldness is sexy.

And it's not just him but every single man who has been trooned out at an early age. They are all going to become masculine & probably hideous. Hideous because their bodies were unable to go to normal puberty & yet they are slowly masculinizing but they won't ever look like they were supposed to. Just look at Tim's weird giant head & tiny pig eyes.

Yyyyyup. Lots of twinks reeeee-ing about it over on Speddit. Well not that many actually. Tim has lost a goodly portion of his core twink audience due to working with der ebil rApIsT Dr Luke (Dr Luke being the pop genius who somehow managed to make Kesha sound vaguely listenable, proof of his ability to turn base dogshit into a facsimile of gold, and who she then accused of abuse when her romantic relationship with him ended). Anyways this means that Tim has now alienated a huge chunk of his core audience, who can no longer pretend that his music isn’t plummeting in quality and his stage presence and dancing ability isn’t getting worse and worse. And he’s still locked into his contract with the record label, so fuck only knows where he goes from here.
 
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