This is going to be a bit of a tangent, but I promise it comes back around.
So someone on Twitter tried to do a “lol dumb male gaze vs proper representation” tweet regarding Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy.
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However, as many people pointed out, the “proper representation” one is more sexual and “fanservicey” than the “male gaze one. It was also a comic page compared to a sketch Bruce Timm made for fun. Also, he’s the guy who created the character in the first place.
Anyway, this got the usual Twitter crowd angry for questioning them, and since Bruce Timm is now in charge of the Batman animated stuff coming down the pipeline, said crowd decided to shittalk Timm and make him out to be a bad artist/writer/ect.
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They are, of course, being mocked for said art being bad strawmanning.
Why do I bring this all up?
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^ Look who they’re going to as an expert/are friends with.