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Red Flag: Why we should ban cars altogether​

Are you paying for a BMW? I didn’t think I was. I mean, I’ve never sat in such a gas guzzler. I don’t even know how to drive. But I am still paying for one — and if you live in Germany, you are too.

All of us are paying subsidies for cars. The Dienstwagenprivileg, tax rebates for company cars, costs the German state about €3 billion every year. Every time a rich asshole vrooms by in a two-ton limousine, chances are that you are footing part of the bill.

Greenpeace has calculated that Germany spends a total of €46 billion every year subsidising activities that ruin the climate.
But that’s not the only handout for automobiles. It’s costing more than €600 million to extend the A100 freeway a few kilometers into Treptow. The next segment of that Autobahn will likely cost more than €1 billion for a few more kilometers into Friedrichshain.

Greenpeace has calculated that, each year, the German state spends a total of €46 billionsubsidising activities that ruin the climate.

That brings us to the €9 Ticket. Like 30 million other people in Germany, I am loving it. It’s not just cheap — it’s a relief to jump on the S-Bahn and not have to worry about a ticket. But it’s going to run out in just one month, and politicians from across the spectrum are saying we simply can’t afford to continue it.

According to Greenpeace, it would cost just €4 billion to provide everyone with a “climate ticket” for just €365 per year, or €1 per day. So that could be financed entirely by stopping handouts for Audis, Mercedes, and BMW. But I won’t hold my breath.

In this country, poor people have to subsidise transport for rich people. But rich people cannot possibly be asked to help pay for transport for everyone. Taxes pay for BMWs but not for busses. If you were a Captain Planet supervillain trying to destroy the earth for fun, you would have trouble coming up with a more destructive policy than the German governments.

Cars are a ridiculously inefficient way of moving people through the city — 2,000 kilograms of machine for a single person.
Cars are killing all of us. According the historian Klaus Gietinger, 3,700 die in traffic accidents every single day: “Imagine if every day 2.5 Titanics would sink, 7 packed jumbo jets would crash, or 37 times the worst train accident in German history would happen.” Gietinger calculates that cars have killed 70 million people since they were invented. It’s like they’re at war against people. In early June, five people were killed in a train crash in Bavaria. That topped the national news for three days. But cars kill twice as many people in Germany every day — when is the last time you saw that on the Tagesschau?

People say that Berlin is too loud and dirty. But what, exactly, is causing that? Cars ruin urban life. Imagine how luxuriously wide Berlin’s streets used to be before both sides were packed with giant metal boxes — boxes that stand unused for 23.5 hours per day.

The policy of car supremacy dates back to a time when only aristocrats with chauffeurs could afford any kind of motor vehicle. Of course they got the right of way. Yet as André Gorz wrote back in 1973: “the car, like a villa by the sea, is only desirable and useful insofar as the masses don’t have one.” Cars were nonetheless offered to the masses. They are a ridiculously inefficient way of moving people through the city — 2,000 kilograms of machine for a single person — but they have still taken over most of the urban landscape.

Cars don’t just kill us with accidents. Fine particle pollution leads to all kinds of illness. Carbon emissions are leading to rapid changes in climate. The German car lobby, also known as the Bundesregierung, promises us that all will be solved with E-Autos. But electric cars are a scam. They take up just as much room and are just as loud as gas guzzlers — the only “advantage” is that they shift some of the pollution to South America and Africa.

E-Autos won’t solve any problems — but they do promise to generate billions in profits.
E-Autos won’t solve any problems — but they do promise to generate billions in profits. Public transport, in contrast, is just too efficient to make much money.

On a square near my home in Neukölln, called the Bohemian Square, a single stretch of road (less than ten metres) was closed to traffic. Almost immediately, urban life blossomed there. Now from morning to night, children are drawing with chalk and young adults are playing ping pong. People are meeting their neighbours. This was impossible before, because the space was reserved for any driver who might want to barrel by. Take out the cars, and you have an actual city.

So let’s ban cars from Berlin. Actually, we don’t even need to ban them. It would be enough to stop subsidising for them. If drivers had to pay the actual costs of cars — for all the injuries, the pollution, the roads, the parking, etc. — not even the richest would be able to afford them. Let’s put all that money into subsidising bikes and giving everyone free — not €9, but free — public transport.
 
He's a Critical Mass sped, because of course he is.

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>bus travels long circuitous route
It's even worse if one has to switch routes. Routes can be poorly timed so that the first bus gets to the second stop as the second is leaving, meaning one may have to catch an earlier bus and wait quite awhile at a stop to switch buses. Really BS in crap weather.

And then there's the colorful people and happenings one may witness on public transportation.

One time I was taking the bus somewhere. A guy - with the body of a man, but who clearly had the mind of a prepubescent kid - boarded the bus. Seems he boarded in a way where someone else ended up pushing him. Suddenly I heard this loud nasally voice whining "WHY DID HE PUSH ME?!" Everyone looked over and the guy took a photo of the other guy who supposedly pushed him. An argument broke out, and the bus driver chimed in with something like "shut the fuck up or get off the bus" (yeah he actually said "fuck"). Then the autistic guy started stimming and rocking back and forth, still visibly shaken from the confrontation.
 
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Yeah no. I live outside of the San Antonio area and there's not public transportation out here. So if I didn't have a car, I'd be SOL. I'm not biking or walking in triple digit weather with high humidity.

eat bugs, live in a pod, pay 60% of your earnings in tax, and never leave a 50m radius. You need to do this for the weather. we have to change the weather. The weather never fluctuated and the climate has been exactly the same for billions of years until all you people started driving cars and letting cows fart.
Meanwhile everything still gets shipped using giant shipping boats that contribute to most of climate change. Africa, India, and China don't change their ways while fishing major sections of the oceans become fishless. The elites will still get to travel internationally in private jets, have giant convoys of cars to protect them, and eat meat.
 
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He's a Critical Mass sped, because of course he is.

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LOL! Predictable.

Laughs in Mazda RX-8 barely getting 10mpg when punching it. In all honesty BMW do make good engines when they work and they're decently fuel efficient.
>Renesis
I would say the Renesis killed the wankel but the wankel killed the wankel. An engine that by design has poor fuel efficiency at typical operating ranges was destined to fail in the modern era. They had some promise for general aviation because of their tendency to not fail catastrophically but nobody wants to burn as much fuel as a 6 seater in their 2 seat kitplane. BMW made a lot of great engines in the past, some of their most ordinary engines were their best. S54s and S65s are cool but they eat bearings and are expensive. M10, M30, M20, M50 are bulletproof. The newer N and B engines make great power and get good fuel economy but they aren't going to last like the old stuff. BMW made the best european gas engines, Mercedes the best midsized diesels, VW the best shitbox diesels.
 
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You only say the "public transport is a viable solution for all" shit if you've literally never stepped foot outside your big city and you think that smaller towns are a myth invented by hollywood to look nice on film. Taking the bus/train/subway/etc in a city is worse and already multiplies the time by 2-3, but in small towns where buses exist, what you're looking at is like a week between schedules. Buses outside of big cities only exist doing semi long distance city to city travel, or they only take you on maybe 5 main roads so you're still gonna have to do a lot of walking, this sounds fun and trendy until it rains. The only use case of public transport is in a big city where your destination is the same every day (work) or major attractions like a museum that has no parking. Only the very biggest cities have buses that will take you within 1 mile of any random place you want to go.
 
It's even worse if one has to switch routes. Routes can be poorly timed so that the first bus gets to the second stop as the second is leaving, meaning one may have to catch an earlier bus and wait quite awhile at a stop to switch buses. Really BS in crap weather.
The busses here are setup more for tourists than locals. The main bus never connects with any of of the other busses. It's always a half hour to an hour wait in town to encourage people to visit the local shops. If you finish work between 430 and 530 you're pretty much screwed and have a 30-45 minute wait. I don't even understand how anyone can actually live here and rely on the bus for transport.
 
Getting rid of cars will cost them the rest of blue collar America, blacks, and latinos.
 
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Like I said in the "Not Just Bikes" thread, it once took me 90 minutes to go by bus where a car could go in less than half an hour.

I don't miss that.
I once tried to visit somebody where they lived in San Diego. I didn't have a car and was seeing if it was feasible to become a roomate with them when I was in the military. It was a 45 minute drive in a car.

THREE HOURS OF TRANSIT between trolley and buses. One way. I noped out of that.
 
The article is about Germany and Berlin in particular. The fuck you guys repeating the same tired ass "america big need drive" drivel for? Everyone knows america big, need drive. Thing is, I thought Germany had quite the driving culture as well considering their road networks and native auto manufacturing. This guy is probably about as fringe over there as his doppelganger would be in the US.

This was an "informative" piece of leftist propaganda, although it was poorly written and extremely juvenile (do people really think like this?). I would be embarrassed to have my name on a whiny and unfunny piece of shit essay like this.

Interestingly the guy isn't an anti-natalist, or at least his views aren't coherent enough to coalesce into one logical form, because he uses "people die in car" as an argument. It's GOOD that people die in car dude, if auto fatalities went up 1000% (especially in Asia) then we'd really be seeing some beneficial environmental changes.

Who knows about his subsidy numbers, I'm assuming the state is looking out for such a large GDP sector in offering them. I'm a little confused by the claim that poor people are paying for rich people's cars (I don't think those subsidies really translate into any significant savings on cars that cost anywhere from 40-140 thousand Euro (he is complaining about BMW after all) and the whole thing really falls apart when he says that taxes aren't collected for the benefit of the poor - this in a country with a typically high European tax rate and strong safety net. It's a weird bitch to make about some lousy couple Euro bus coupon subsidy (lol Europoors).
 
Some buses here are passable with a shared car situation or if you don't want to pay for parking. One thing I've learned working is if someone takes the bus and arrives 10 minutes early but leaves 5 minutes early to catch it, random co-workers will autistically screech and try to get management to dock their pay.
 
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Who knows about his subsidy numbers, I'm assuming the state is looking out for such a large GDP sector in offering them. I'm a little confused by the claim that poor people are paying for rich people's cars (I don't think those subsidies really translate into any significant savings on cars that cost anywhere from 40-140 thousand Euro (he is complaining about BMW after all) and the whole thing really falls apart when he says that taxes aren't collected for the benefit of the poor - this in a country with a typically high European tax rate and strong safety net. It's a weird bitch to make about some lousy couple Euro bus coupon subsidy (lol Europoors).
you can reduce your income tax with it and its mostly helping middleclass people. you can use the same tax deduction for pretty much every mode of transportation.



The article is about Germany and Berlin in particular. The fuck you guys repeating the same tired ass "america big need drive" drivel for? Everyone knows america big, need drive. Thing is, I thought Germany had quite the driving culture as well considering their road networks and native auto manufacturing. This guy is probably about as fringe over there as his doppelganger would be in the US.
alot of people in Berlin are retarded, thats why it costs so much to build anything there. the autobahn expansion was so expensive because it was planned by retards, just like their stupid airport.
they are also to stupid to use their public transport network, its super expensive to run and offers very bad service.

Berlin is the only european capital that isnt the economical center of its country, because its full of retards and international companies rather go to Munich or Frankfurt.


the Bus ticket idea is also retarded, they just should make it free and save billions in costs,
 
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Europeans really hate the freedom that cars give, don't they? Everyone there always says "take public transit!" as a solution, as if it's not inconvenient, poorly managed and maintained, or filthy.
And, above all, available.....

As in existing to be used in a poor state, I don't even have that.

The county has a bus route, but it does not come out here.

No commuter or light rail exists here or ever did.

There are no bike lanes out here.

If I can't use my car, how, pray tell, do I cover the 34 mile tour trip to work and back?

And before you say work closer, the commute is one I didn't voluntarily choose, as the company I work for assigns you your workplace...
 
I wonder if this author actually goes anywhere outside of his pod. I know that the article is focused on Berlin/Germany, but as a Canadian I can say that there are so many issues as to why people would prefer to drive, especially considering what it's like in the winter.

You know what's really fun in January/February (with December and March only being generally slightly better)? Having to be at the bus stop at around 7:30am to catch your bus that will get you to school for your 8:30 class even though if you had just been able to drive yourself it might only take you 10-20 minutes. Oh and I hope that you live really close to a bus stop or (ideally) one of the terminals because you're going to sit/stand there waiting in the cold for it as you hope that it makes decent time since the roads are usually dealing with some level of slushy, icy coating. What, did I forget to mention that it's like -15 degrees celsius and you're reminded of that fact once you're on the bus (hopefully the heat is working!) whenever it makes a stop to pick up/drop off people and you're blasted with frigid air like you're being tortured at some KGB black site in Siberia? Good times. To be fair, you could just ride your bike (lol lmao.)
 
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Let's ban environmentalists first!

Like I said in the "Not Just Bikes" thread, it once took me 90 minutes to go by bus where a car could go in less than half an hour.

I don't miss that.

This and also the fact that we all don't live in places like small european countries. You could fit basically all of western europe into just one of the four quadrants of the US and still have room left! Plus if you (stupidly) think we are paying too much for cars now, then just wait until every city and big town needs 200-300 buses and still leaves half the population without a ride.


Europeans really hate the freedom that cars give, don't they? Everyone there always says "take public transit!" as a solution, as if it's not inconvenient, poorly managed and maintained, or filthy.

Yup.. The left in general really.. They want everyone squeezed in small brick cages together and unable to move about freely outside of their control.
 
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