US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

what the fuck is the libertarians deal anyway, what do they even do? do they hold any states? it really feels like its a gay club of like 20 people at most

At this point, it's the Dem lite party. 2016 was their time to make a name for themselves and they will never get that chance again.

For as long as society allows it, anyway. RINO's have prevented the opposite opinions from ever actually axing those programs, but now the welfare neets are fucking over the system at the same time as their power wavers. Too many ticks, too much blood loss, its dying and someone needs to start letting go, or making them let go.

Except welfare is now firmly in the Bread and Circuses category and every politician is afraid of that third rail.

 

[Sithis]

Hope this is on tape, where's Prime Time #99

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of course Joepedo'd be in a school gym to do a speech.

Dude called Biden a pedo to his face, fuckin based

 

[Trust Me I Know]

what the fuck is the libertarians deal anyway, what do they even do? do they hold any significant voting crowd in any state? it really feels like its a gay club of like 20 people at most

They always seems like a weird combination of Ayn Rand fans, dude weed types, and Ron Paulites to me.

 

[Game master arino]

what the fuck is the libertarians deal anyway, what do they even do? do they hold any significant voting crowd in any state? it really feels like its a gay club of like 20 people at most

The stated goal of the Libertarian Party according to its founder Murray Rothbard is to mainly raise awareness of and promote Libertarian ideas. Not just win elections, since Libertarians are too few in number to do that most of the time.

https://mises.org/library/strategies-libertarian-victory

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

They always seems like a weird combination of Ayn Rand fans, dude weed types, and Ron Paulites to me.

don't forget the toothbrush aficionados
free ponies for everyone!

 

[XYZpdq]

don't forget the toothbrush aficionados
free ponies for everyone!

VERMIN MOTHERFUCKING SUPREME 4 LYFE

It's more complicated than that. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Russian equipment has always been junk, relying on quantity over quality. For all the shit-talking by the USSR cheerleaders about the fact that the USSR won WW2 singlehandedly, they always gloss over the fact that Russia was using American vehicles, American equipment, and American ammunition.

During the War on Terror, a lot of companies expected the US government to reach out and fire up the Ordnance lines. Instead, they relied on Lake City AAP and a few other government held factories.

They also redesignated ammunition life codes, expiration dates, and condition codes. They allowed condition code H materials, which are normally for destruction or training only, to be fielded in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The problem started to get bad under Bush JR, but the real kicker was Obama. See, one thing that Black Jesus did was to turn over as much DoD work as possible to his civilian buddies. On Post Housing, Computer IT, vehicle and weapon maintenance.

Ordnance Corps.

At one point, US ammunition dealers were practically begging the US government to allow more ammo manufacturing lines (the total amount is restricted). The cops were low on ammo because not enough ammo production lines were being run.

Bunkers and shit started running dry.

Not because we CAN'T produce the ammunition, but because the government doesn't WANT to produce the ammunition.

Sound familiar?

Rumor control states that Ordnance Corps commanders and civilian leadership lied to the DoD or DoD liked to Big Don during his tenure.

As soon as Biden got in, business as usual.

See, instead of producing massive amounts of 6.8mm ammo across multiple factories and businesses, keeping ammo manufacturing distributed like it's supposed to, only Sig-Sauer will be providing it until Lake City comes online around 2025 or 2026 (in reality, it'll be around 2030).

Which starves American ammunition manufacturing.

Sound familiar?

Depends what deals were amde and how bad the evidence is. Though in general a president can pardon anything federal. So can is not the right question here.

sometimes I worry about the THEM! shutting down the farms, but it's never over troons or catboys pretending to be troons or whatever

I've seen that too. Heard from reputable snake eater sources the same thing.

Another thing being shipped are optics. Nightvision systems and some of the other hot shit ticket items.

You know, stuff that if PFC Snuffy Joe left unsecure would get him an Article-15 and busted in rank, just being sent to some fucking potato stealing faggot in Ukraine.

The Biden Admin is basically having us engaged in warfare without sending the actual troops and has been for months.

iirc didn't some JP dude vaguely involved with Metal Gear Solid get some into some serious shit for getting some heavy duty optics (despite it clearly being some military nerd thing and not international terrorism)

 

[Curly_]

I've seen that too. Heard from reputable snake eater sources the same thing.

Another thing being shipped are optics. Nightvision systems and some of the other hot shit ticket items.

You know, stuff that if PFC Snuffy Joe left unsecure would get him an Article-15 and busted in rank, just being sent to some fucking potato stealing faggot in Ukraine.

The Biden Admin is basically having us engaged in warfare without sending the actual troops and has been for months.

We really are fighting this war to the last Ukrainian, LOL.

 

[Trust Me I Know]

If Kiwi Farms is taken down I will release information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

 

[Snekposter]

See, instead of producing massive amounts of 6.8mm ammo across multiple factories and businesses, keeping ammo manufacturing distributed like it's supposed to, only Sig-Sauer will be providing it until Lake City comes online around 2025 or 2026 (in reality, it'll be around 2030).

Which starves American ammunition manufacturing.

Sound familiar?

Which is hilarious because from my understanding all the basic-bitch brass-cased 6.8 is nothing more than necked-down .308 with a few minor and irrelevant dimensional changes so its totally a new round, you guys, which is why the US also needs to buy these totally new M5 and M250 guns just for it, which totally aren't just some off-the-shelf designs with some polymer shit slapped on to look new.

Oh, and the US military has already put out tenders for M240 conversion kits, which realistically should be all of a new fucking barrel but we all know its not going to be that fucking simple, oh no.

 

[Curly_]

Which is hilarious because from my understanding all the basic-bitch brass-cased 6.8 is nothing more than necked-down .308 with a few minor and irrelevant dimensional changes so its totally a new round, you guys, which is why the US also needs to buy these totally new M5 and M250 guns just for it, which totally aren't just some off-the-shelf designs with some polymer shit slapped on to look new.

Oh, and the US military has already put out tenders for M240 conversion kits, which realistically should be all of a new fucking barrel but we all know its not going to be that fucking simple, oh no.

Shoulda gone with True Velocity's offering. They'd crank out those polymer-cased rounds like there's no tomorrow.

 

[XYZpdq]

conversion kits

now I admit I don't habla gun so good, but isn't there a core issue of "the thing is so lacking that they need to get conversion kits" a really fucking big deal

 

[LightDragonman1]

Biden gave this closing remark just recently, and some of his followers are loving it.

 

[Kane Lives]

Biden gave this closing remark just recently, and some of his followers are loving it.

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Mad? Why should anyone be mad about this limpdicked """insult""", even by the standards of today's gentrified politics?

Damn, imagine being mad by this.

 

[XYZpdq]

Mad? Why should anyone be mad about this limpdicked """insult""", even by the standards of today's gentrified politics?

Damn, imagine being mad by this.

MAGAchuds are gonna be sooooo mad when they're told they're not like mainstream republicans lolololol

 

[TerminalTryHard]

There's some serious problems in Ordnance Corps right now.

There's munitions that need refurbishing, Service Life Extension, and replacement, that aren't getting it.

Allowing the Department of Defense to contract to non-American companies, or companies whose factories are overseas, without requiring that the company build US based plants, has turned out to be a disaster.

Yes, yes, I know, on PAPERWORK it basically says that the US military is only supposed to contract from US based factories with the ENTIRE production and resource acquisition based in the US.

But that isn't what has been really happening.

And it's starting to bite us in the ass.


There's been some serious pushback (from what I've seen) about units demanding that soldiers have a cell phone at all times, but the soldier has to pay for it, which is against regulations, to the point where people are saying "Let's go to court martial then!"

Back in the day, when I was required to carry a beeper, it was issued to me.

But the faggots in the modern Pentagon want troops to have cell phones, but don't want to pay for them because they might be used to stuff other than military business.

It's a cluster fuck.

Cell phones and their consequences have been a disaster for the US military.

I'm not even joking they've become an enabler for micro managers and a crutch for weak leaders.

 

[LUNEKO]

Biden gave this closing remark just recently, and some of his followers are loving it.

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>democrats, independants, mainstream republicans
The uniparty has finally metastasized into its final form, the people vs the oligarchy begins proper

 

[northstar747]

I m way past my gun sperging days so I will defer to anyone more spergy than me about it.

the 30-06 was deemed over powered since most engagements where at shorter ranges. (I forget what was up with 30 so they went to 223.

I know in Afghanistan they hand to pull out some M14 (or what ever they are called) because they would trade fire at longer ranges than what 223 was good for.

The new round is suppose to give alittle more range and put more energy into the round.

But I would say 30 years after the fall of the USSR, and after all the in richment from the war on terror its not surprising that procurement is a joke. Because the goal of procurement is wealth creation to certian people and not fucking having shit ready to go.

comedy option just buy some of our gear from the taliban or from their friends in pakaistan or fuck the chinese have AR knock offs just buy those and send them to Ukraine.

I also think the real benifit the Ukraine is getting is that fact the us is basically giving them real time info on where to point those rockets.

 

[Snekposter]

now I admit I don't habla gun so good, but isn't there a core issue of "the thing is so lacking that they need to get conversion kits" a really fucking big deal

No. All a conversion kit does it let your gun fire a bullet (technically speaking the term is cartridge) it wasn't originally built to fire. They're extremely common for AR-style rifles. Some like the ones for .300 Blackout are just a barrel since .300 Blackout is similar enough in shape and size to 5.56 NATO the rest of the parts can be left as they were, so a few minutes with a wrench and you've rechambered your weapon. Others are a bit more complex, requiring you to swap out the bolt and buffer spring in addition to the barrel (like .458 SOCOM and .50 Beowulf), but even those were designed to use the same magazines as 5.56 rounds. Before you ask, there have already been handloaders who made something like the new 6.8 round the military uses by simply necking down 7.62 NATO brass (as in shrinking down the hollow end of the brass cartridge) to fit a 6.8 round and making sure its overall length is within tolerances for 7.62 NATO, and then getting a new barrel made to fit the 6.8 diameter rounds instead of 7.62 ones.

I m way past my gun sperging days so I will defer to anyone more spergy than me about it.

the 30-06 was deemed over powered since most engagements where at shorter ranges. (I forget what was up with 30 so they went to 223.

I know in Afghanistan they hand to pull out some M14 (or what ever they are called) because they would trade fire at longer ranges than what 223 was good for.

The new round is suppose to give alittle more range and put more energy into the round.

But I would say 30 years after the fall of the USSR, and after all the in richment from the war on terror its not surprising that procurement is a joke. Because the goal of procurement is wealth creation to certian people and not fucking having shit ready to go.

comedy option just buy some of our gear from the taliban or from their friends in pakaistan or fuck the chinese have AR knock offs just buy those and send them to Ukraine.

I also think the real benifit the Ukraine is getting is that fact the us is basically giving them real time info on where to point those rockets.

Sadly I am in my prime gun sperging days, but I will say things are a bit more complicated. We had .30-06 from the WW1 days, but we wanted something a bit more compact and somewhat lighter post-WW2, so we shrunk it down to create .308/7.62x51 NATO, which wound up being not a serious improvement in any way either for compactness and its actually slightly less powerful, so we then switched to .223/5.56x45 NATO, which was a lot lighter and much easier to fire at a rapid rate than .308/7.62x51 NATO. That round worked out pretty well so long as combat was at short distances and enemies were unarmored. Unfortunately such a relatively low-powered round doesn't do well at all in urban environments where there's plenty of things to slow it down before impact or at long ranges like say, firing across Afghanistan ridgelines, and with advancements in body armor it turns out its surprisingly easy to make armor that can stop multiple direct impacts from it while leaving the wearer able to continue combat. They'll be sore as fuck when the adrenaline wears off and need some Tylenol with codeine and a minor muscle relaxant to deal with the bruising from all the blunt force trauma, but alive. Hence the increasing use of 7.62 weapons like the M14 because such a round can inflict serious wounds either at range or through cover like that found in cities.

And so we've needed an intermediate round between the big, heavy, and powerful .308/7.62x51 NATO and the light but increasingly underpowered .223/5.56x45 NATO for a while, and the US military cheaped out and went with the laziest, lowest-effort option of just necking-down 7.62 to create this fancy new bullet. Except they've not even done that because it would be too easy and so Sig-Sauer has given them a bullet that technically isn't a necked-down .308 round, and as a result there's probably all sorts of bullshit reasons the military can't just reprocess spent 7.62mm brass into 6.8mm brass. Even though you, Joe Public at home, can do exactly that with a book, a manual press, and a set of dies.

 

[LUNEKO]

Who the fuck let the /k/ommandos out of the shooting range, go back to actually use your guns nerds

 

[XYZpdq]

No. All a conversion kit does it let your gun fire a bullet (technically speaking the term is cartridge) it wasn't originally built to fire.

given what little experience I've had trying to get a random gaggle of people to do a thing right, I would assume trying to do this somehow literally kills everyone