US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[OrangeJuliusEvola]

Bengazi 2 is going on now,

There's footage of Jill manhandling Biden pretty hardcore.

The took privileged attorney client documents from trump.

Beto's got some kind of virus or something vax related and suspended his campaign.

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Biden snub's Israel because he had an episode again.


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Is someone finally gonna fall on his sword for this admin? or get pushed on it?

You see, this is why this place needs to exist. Where else can I get all the information TPTB don't want me to see in one easy, friendly location?
This site is fucking public service for the non-terminally online like myself. I knew none of this shit and don't have the discernment to figure out what's bullshit and what's got the ring of truth to it without other autists ringing in with their 2 cents.

 

[9Style]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1564458151570804738

https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1564344597664481285

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1564431462795022338

https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1563620048157163520

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1564235165961838592

https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1564410129063170048

 

[Myles the Potatophile]

The general mood and sentiment that people were actively in withdrawal from not being in here. That's not healthy.

The Farms has a certain value to a lot of people. It might seem pathos, but a lot of it is probably exaggeration. We just can't get information and discuss it elsewhere like we can here. And I just can't sleep at night without knowing what insights daddy Ghenna has about the effects of current events on democrat polling. :^)

 

[Kane Lives]

The Farms has a certain value to a lot of people. It might seem pathos, but a lot of it is probably exaggeration. We just can't get information and discuss it elsewhere like we can here. And I just can't sleep at night without knowing what insights daddy Ghenna has about the effects of current events on democrat polling. :^)

There's a certain candidness to the Farms which I find refreshing. It's rare to see it elsewhere, or it's otherwise buried in seven layers of shit like how modern /pol/ is.

 

[northstar747]

Checking this site is kinda a learned habit.

As for the quality of the politics board its more that the discussion around the topic is rather old school. There is a chance someone in a related field can offer to explain what the article does wrong.

The problem with kiwi IMO is that some have confirmation bais and a small number of kiwi are transphobes who wont such the female sheenis, and want the trans youth to kill themsevles. and jersh wont ban those people.

also jersh is a good boy who loves anime.

 

[9Style]

Checking this site is kinda a learned habit.

As for the quality of the politics board its more that the discussion around the topic is rather old school. There is a chance someone in a related field can offer to explain what the article does wrong.

The problem with kiwi IMO is that some have confirmation bais and a small number of kiwi are transphobes who wont such the female sheenis, and want the trans youth to kill themsevles. and jersh wont ban those people.

also jersh is a good boy who loves anime.

I think theres been an increased leftist presence on the site in the past few years. But they mainly congregate on their threads. Donald Trump, COVIDidiots, Ukraine, Right Wing figures.. Basically all the major topics someone consuming mainstream media should be concerned about. Even their responses are similar to stuff you would see on Twitter or Reddit.

 

[FunPosting101]

The Farms has a certain value to a lot of people. It might seem pathos, but a lot of it is probably exaggeration. We just can't get information and discuss it elsewhere like we can here. And I just can't sleep at night without knowing what insights daddy Ghenna has about the effects of current events on democrat polling. :^)

I also like @Gehenna's insights into current events and their effects on politics. More pertinently, and to get things back onto the tracks a bit; @Gehenna, I'd really like to hear your opinion on Ranked Choice Voting and it's effect on elections. Richard Baris, AKA the People's Pundit seems to think it's a tool to keep establishment politicians in office and is opposed to it. Your thoughts?

 

[Gehenna]

I also like @Gehenna's insights into current events and their effects on politics. More pertinently, and to get things back onto the tracks a bit; @Gehenna, I'd really like to hear your opinion on Ranked Choice Voting and it's effect on elections. Richard Baris, AKA the People's Pundit seems to think it's a tool to keep establishment politicians in office and is opposed to it. Your thoughts?

I primarily agree with him. The main problem with Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) is that normal voting habits are to place the person you like the most first. then the next highest name recognition second. We prefer the devil we know before an alleged angel of low name-recognition. What you get then is that all potential third parties get a tiny bit of a vote which does nothing and immediately goes to the actual candidate who will win on the second choice.

So, if the end effect is de facto the same, why is this a problem? Well, because it makes people -feel- like they are doing something. When in reality they have only maintained the status quo.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

I primarily agree with him. The main problem with Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) is that normal voting habits are to place the person you like the most first. then the next highest name recognition second. We prefer the devil we know before an alleged angel of low name-recognition. What you get then is that all potential third parties get a tiny bit of a vote which does nothing and immediately goes to the actual candidate who will win on the second choice.

So, if the end effect is de facto the same, why is this a problem? Well, because it makes people -feel- like they are doing something. When in reality they have only maintained the status quo.

It's also absolute hell to audit in a way which is both accurate and easy to explain to the public.

 

[FunPosting101]

I primarily agree with him. The main problem with Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) is that normal voting habits are to place the person you like the most first. then the next highest name recognition second. We prefer the devil we know before an alleged angel of low name-recognition. What you get then is that all potential third parties get a tiny bit of a vote which does nothing and immediately goes to the actual candidate who will win on the second choice.

So, if the end effect is de facto the same, why is this a problem? Well, because it makes people -feel- like they are doing something. When in reality they have only maintained the status quo.

Thank you, now; do you know anything at all about political efforts to oppose it and prevent it from being implemented? Baris seems to think they haven't been very effective so far. I'll admit that my main concern here is the Dems or the Repub establishment winning elections by default because they changed the rules of the game, so to speak.

 

[Gehenna]

Thank you, now; do you know anything at all about political efforts to oppose it and prevent it from being implemented? Baris seems to think they haven't been very effective so far. I'll admit that my main concern here is the Dems or the Repub establishment winning elections by default because they changed the rules of the game, so to speak.

No, but also not heard of many successfully pushing -for- it. There isn't an appetite for the change, but I would agree that there needs to be more pressure to prevent any opportunism.

No, but also not heard of many successfully pushing -for- it. There isn't an appetite for the change, but I would agree that there needs to be more pressure to prevent any opportunism.

I know its gauche to both reply to one's own post as well as it be two in a row, but this idea is wholly separate but related tangentially to something said.

Opportunism is something I wish people understood more. Specifically people on the right. A lot of the things that look like evil plans coming to fruition are nothing more than well planned opportunism. Now, those two ideas might seem at odds so let me explain.

The left has spent a long time setting up things. People in high places, organizations able to act independently, they have overall invested in a very flexible and wide reaching apparatus... but mostly, not aimed towards a specific goal. Rather, their intent is to be able to react to any opportunities -instantly-, to be able to size on every opportunity given. This is well-planned opportunism.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Thank you, now; do you know anything at all about political efforts to oppose it and prevent it from being implemented? Baris seems to think they haven't been very effective so far. I'll admit that my main concern here is the Dems or the Repub establishment winning elections by default because they changed the rules of the game, so to speak.

Speaking from the Canadian perspective any push to implement faces difficulty out the door due to the innate complexity over how it works. First past the post is intuitive for everyone, proportional voting makes sense given its nature, but ranked systems require detailed explanations, and detailed explanations are where political platforms usually go to die. Castro Junior and the Libs up here are big (if quiet) proponents of ranked voting for obvious reasons and even they couldn't push it through when elected on enacting electoral reform.

Bigger risk IMO is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact coming into effect since that effectively hands the Presidency to the Dems on a silver platter.

 

[FunPosting101]

No, but also not heard of many successfully pushing -for- it. There isn't an appetite for the change, but I would agree that there needs to be more pressure to prevent any opportunism.

I know its gauche to both reply to one's own post as well as it be two in a row, but this idea is wholly separate but related tangentially to something said.

Opportunism is something I wish people understood more. Specifically people on the right. A lot of the things that look like evil plans coming to fruition are nothing more than well planned opportunism. Now, those two ideas might seem at odds so let me explain.

The left has spent a long time setting up things. People in high places, organizations able to act independently, they have overall invested in a very flexible and wide reaching apparatus... but mostly, not aimed towards a specific goal. Rather, their intent is to be able to react to any opportunities -instantly-, to be able to size on every opportunity given. This is well-planned opportunism.

For whatever it's worth, Baris is pessimistic about the GOP's current efforts to oppose RCV, and I guess I would feel a bit better about this if I knew major efforts were underway to prevent any funny business regarding this issue from the Populist Republicans.

I agree with you about the opportunism and what I see the Democrats doing is trying change the rules of the game that they're losing.

Bigger risk IMO is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact coming into effect since that effectively hands the Presidency to the Dems on a silver platter.

Wouldn't that go straight to the courts and eventually be struck down by the SCOTUS? @Gehenna, your thoughts?

 

[pwnest injun]

I recon that the benefit of the RCV option is that it could allow 3rd parties to gain the necessary votes to participate in debates and have federal funds for campaigning.

 

[Gehenna]

Speaking from the Canadian perspective any push to implement faces difficulty out the door due to the innate complexity over how it works. First past the post is intuitive for everyone, proportional voting makes sense given its nature, but ranked systems require detailed explanations, and detailed explanations are where political platforms usually go to die. Castro Junior and the Libs up here are big (if quiet) proponents of ranked voting for obvious reasons and even they couldn't push it through when elected on enacting electoral reform.

Bigger risk IMO is the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact coming into effect since that effectively hands the Presidency to the Dems on a silver platter.

Wouldn't that go straight to the courts and eventually be struck down by the SCOTUS? @Gehenna, your thoughts?

Yes, it was a plan started and put in place when the Democrats assumed they'd control SCOTUS in the near future. Its DOA since.

 

[SBG]

I primarily agree with him. The main problem with Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) is that normal voting habits are to place the person you like the most first. then the next highest name recognition second. We prefer the devil we know before an alleged angel of low name-recognition. What you get then is that all potential third parties get a tiny bit of a vote which does nothing and immediately goes to the actual candidate who will win on the second choice.

So, if the end effect is de facto the same, why is this a problem? Well, because it makes people -feel- like they are doing something. When in reality they have only maintained the status quo.

Feel like people forget there are primaries. It’s the election before the election where they could try ensuring their party gets a more reasonable candidate up, but most are too lazy or disinterested to participate. Which is also a good thing since it ensures the most energized voters get to pick the candidate.

If you just go with ranked choice you end up propping up the most mainstream candidates that the general public recognizes based just on name recognition.

 

[Jaimas]

BREAKING: FBI Agent Who Opened Trump Probe and Bungled Hunter Biden I…

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The Trump curse claims another victim.

BREAKING: FBI Agent Who Opened Trump Probe and Bungled Hunter Biden Investigation Reportedly Escorted OUT of Office​

 

[Gehenna]

BREAKING: FBI Agent Who Opened Trump Probe and Bungled Hunter Biden I…

archived 30 Aug 2022 09:50:52 UTC

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The Trump curse claims another victim.

This is the sound of the FBI brass deciding to crack down. I'd note to everyone, the FBI isn't actually part of t =he Uniparty, that's almost soley the realm of the politicians, and instead the FBI is loosely allied with the Uniparty but definitely its own, separate group. A group which had some of its agents used for a politically botched fishing expedition, was repeatedly made to seem weak with its agents going on fun rogue tangents, and now is facing down the very real possibility that if the ol' guy gets back in power he will begin cutting the fat with a meat cleaver instead of a scalpel.


Seems to me that that brass has decided that cleaning house may be in order.

Don't be too excited though, the FBI will still be the FBI. Interested in its own power and propagation and first and foremost out for itself.

 

[Michael Wade]

This is the sound of the FBI brass deciding to crack down. I'd note to everyone, the FBI isn't actually part of t =he Uniparty, that's almost soley the realm of the politicians, and instead the FBI is loosely allied with the Uniparty but definitely its own, separate group. A group which had some of its agents used for a politically botched fishing expedition, was repeatedly made to seem weak with its agents going on fun rogue tangents, and now is facing down the very real possibility that if the ol' guy gets back in power he will begin cutting the fat with a meat cleaver instead of a scalpel.


Seems to me that that brass has decided that cleaning house may be in order.

Don't be too excited though, the FBI will still be the FBI. Interested in its own power and propagation and first and foremost out for itself.

If trump gets back in and seriously dismantles them, how would they respond?

 

[Gehenna]

If trump gets back in and seriously dismantles them, how would they respond?

Sabotage on a level you have never seen before.