Xenoblade Chronicles 3 - pip pip cheerio cor blimey

Not by the end of 2 game they weren't. They wanted to live after chapter 7 after Rex give them his big speech and became the Master Driver to reawaken Pnuema who is the unified full power Aegis. By the end of the game they learn to value their life as they learned from Rex who is so positive about life that he thanks Klaus for life despite everything that went wrong. Blades and Drivers feeding into each other is part of XB2's whole theming and how they work in the story, for better and for worse (See: Malos).

They sacrificed themselves because they had to in order to use the Conduit's remaining energy, Pnuema, Ontos, and Logos are tied to the Conduit. No Conduit? No Trinity Core Processor. Klaus had the means to remove Mythra and Pyra from their ties to the Conduit to be normal beings in his final moments, because the Trinity Core Processor didn't matter by the end anyway so messing it up when the Conduit is about to go away isn't a big deal, but he can't do that with Ontos because Ontos isn't in the same dimension.

To me it was implied that Alvis shouldn't be around anymore by how the end with how of 1 and 2 works out, I expected at most that he might get referenced or maybe exist like Pyra/Mythra but he can't be Ontos anymore. He can't be confirmed (prior to 3 anyway) because 1 wasn't made with 2 in mind so this question didn't really matter until 2 came out, and answering what happened to Ontos in 2 can't really happen in a way that makes sense unless we extend the ending to even further in time or something. Considering 1 made a world where no Gods exist then Ontos being an all powerful super computer who is considered the true God of 1's world pretty much also shouldn't exist as Shulk indirectly wished for Ontos to disappear using the true Monado. Shulk rewrote the world and reunited the dimensions in his few moments as a true God.

Finally Alvis shouldn't have any of his powers because the Conduit isn't accessible anymore to him as it is gone, so even if he did exist he can't do what you imply with your spoiler anymore.
I know he doesn't have his god powers anymore, but the point I was trying to make was he's still a driverless Blade (and therefore doesn't age), and the only person with any experience with what Origin tried to do, so he could have had a hand in its' creation. That being said, now that I think about it, it would go against his arc.
 
I am towards the end of chapter 3 I think now, I just unlocked Heroes.

Interlinking seems really, really underpowered sometimes.

Also Ethel is a Big Tiddy Warrior Godess and I would let her step on me.
 
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The game just sorta speedruns to the ending after chapter 5. Kinda surprised at how short chapter 6 was. I mean, I'm stopping to autisticly do every sidequest. But, as far as the main dish goes, it feels like it's just rushing to the conclusion now.
 
I am towards the end of chapter 3 I think now, I just unlocked Heroes.

Interlinking seems really, really underpowered sometimes.

Also Ethel is a Big Tiddy Warrior Godess and I would let her step on me.
Interlink needs to reach at least level 2 to do anything really useful besides be a damage sponge or be a panic heal with Eunie's interlink form. It does have the useful function where you are effectively invincible though, which can save you sometimes, it also gives you spammable AOE which also its uses in mob fights. Once you unlock art cancel and reach interlink level 3, Interlinks are powerful. Lanz's for example is really is stupid because his talent art gives you the entire launch combo for free.

At the end of chapter 3 you will get a setting that lets you control when you interlink, this is very useful because sometimes the AI interlinks at horrible times and can fuck things up and they tend to panic interlink to not die and waste their interlink level rising.

If you just unlocked Heroes, you are just starting chapter 3 I believe. End chapter 3's boss is level 29 iirc and you get a handful of heroes along the way especially if you do hero unlock side quests. Note, some heroes/classes involve side quests and they don't tell you all of them through the camp dialogues either like I believe they did with Ethel's and Zeon's that you'll get soon. XB3 expects you to look around a decent bit to find all the heroes as chapter 3 opens up a lot of side quests, but most side quests (especially really out of your way ones in the middle of the field) are generally useful in some way. For example you can get Full Metal Jaguar in chapter 3.
 
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It does have the useful function where you are effectively invincible though
You are while in it, but there is this weird thing where every time the AI uses it when they exit they have like zero HP.

XB3 expects you to look around a decent bit to find all the heroes as chapter 3 opens up a lot of side quests, but most side quests (especially really out of your way ones in the middle of the field) are generally useful in some way. For example you can get Full Metal Jaguar in chapter 3.
Oh I am, now that I got class changing unlocked I went back to check every little corner of the world so far.
 
You are while in it, but there is this weird thing where every time the AI uses it when they exit they have like zero HP.
AI panic uses it to avoid dying very often, which can lead to your tank switching, dragging your healer with them and it just makes the problem even worse. It is not a thing because of Interlink. Due to spoiler reasons they don't let you let control if the AI uses interlink whenever they want till the end of chapter 3 when they update the mechanic one more time.
 
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AI panic uses it to avoid dying very often, which can lead to your tank switching, dragging your healer with them and it just makes the problem even worse. It is not a thing because of Interlink. Due to spoiler reasons they don't let you let control if the AI uses interlink whenever they want till the end of chapter 3 when they update the mechanic one more time.
Oh that makes some amount of sense.
 
Okay just finished the game. That last chapter was truly something. I still have some questions but overall I loved it. The ending hit me hard.

Also holy shit that picture at the end was great lol. Didn't think they would have the balls.
 
I'm here because of the Welsh catgirl videos. Out of context I found it all hilarious.

Tried watching a Xenosaga cutscene compilation waaay back in the day and eventually got weirded out. Is XB connected to Xenosaga in any way?
 
I'm here because of the Welsh catgirl videos. Out of context I found it all hilarious.

Tried watching a Xenosaga cutscene compilation waaay back in the day and eventually got weirded out. Is XB connected to Xenosaga in any way?
Directly connected? No, their are two cameo appearances in 2 but they are not relevant at all really. You don't need to know anything about Xenosaga to understand Xenoblade in anyway, and you can play pretty much any Xenoblade first and not miss too much. I'd recommend starting with 1 as it is the easiest to understand mechanically and has the fastest story start, as 2 (especially 2) and 3 have some dragging points in the plot or gameplay early on for some people even though all three have good plots, characters, and characters in their own right. 1 is just a really solid start that doesn't waste a bunch of time, but I think it is the most simple of the three games. It is still fun, it just the most simple as 2 and 3 have a lot going on.

But it is the same creator and "Xeno" as a series is effectively him trying to tell his grand magnus opus sci-fi fantasy epic through video games and Xenoblade as a series is his 3rd attempt now. So you'll see similarities in ideas and concepts, such as the many religious references, although they aren't as on the nose as say...literally Jesus Christ being in Xenosaga for example.

It depends on what weirded you out and why, I'm not super savvy with Xenosaga but I know someone who's played both and they could tell that this was headed by the same guy even if Xenoblade has its differences.
 
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I share Dunkey's general disdain for modern JRPGs. This game seems like an autistic nightmare.
Dunkey takes a lot of things out of context or to make quick jabs for comedy. While I can understand not liking XB3 because XB3 has its issues and might just be too rambling at times for its own good, using Dunkey's video is not a good way to get an understanding of what's going on at all. I watched it and their are some clear things edited around or obfuscated to make a joke or a comedic jab at the script. Most of the things Dunkey picks on narratively make more sense in context if you just read between the lines and not just take random splices of text you take very literally. Such as:

When guy one goes "You're not enemies", and then another one says in the next scene "Next we meet, it'll be as enemies." and Dunkey acts confused. This edit ignores the fact that the second guy has had outright distain for half the party's homeland for his entire life for very in-universe reasons, and these scenes are within at best an hour from each other in-universe time.

"Cities" aren't things in this world, they're called colonies which creates a queen ant vs colony ant sort of dichotomy where you have the leaders who are literally called Queens and everyone else is varying ranks of worker ants who literally live in colonies to do the Queen's biding. So going "That's a city you dumbass." when they question what a city is ignores what's going on if that is an genuine statement and not one made as a joke. These people don't know what cities or farming is, because of the information control in both of these opposing societies.

And most of this cast is indoctrinated as fuck from birth with half truths or outright lies, so certain obvious things to us doesn't make sense for these people as these people don't even know what aging is. Pretty much everyone here is effectively groomed, coerced into submission, or just outright brainwashed in some cases to be a certain way to keep the forever war running strong. Their is a lot of information control going on in this universe and all the plebs know is they're meant to kill the bad guys or they're dead.
 
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And most of this cast is indoctrinated as fuck from birth with half truths or outright lies, so certain obvious things to us doesn't make sense for these people as these people don't even know what aging is. Pretty much everyone here is effectively groomed, coerced into submission, or just outright brainwashed in some cases to be a certain way to keep the forever war running strong. Their is a lot of information control going on in this universe and all the plebs know is they're meant to kill the bad guys or they're dead.
That's the one thing I really liked. They explored how these basic changes to fundimental human nature means that entire nations are clueless to a basic fact of life. Relationships just don't make sense to them, they've only got a short time to live. Why form an attachment that would be broken so quickly? And it's not like they can have a baby and leave a legacy. Most of the stuff we accept as basic truths just don't apply to them.

That's what kinda makes me like Moebius as a villain organisation too. They're not just there to fight the good guys. They've literally created a system wherein the chance of anyone potentially ruining their plans is kept to an absolute minimum. The war keeps everyone distracted, and the limited lifespan means that should they rebel against the world, they wouldn't have enough time to make a change before they die.
 
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That's the one thing I really liked. They explored how these basic changes to fundimental human nature means that entire nations are clueless to a basic fact of life. Relationships just don't make sense to them, they've only got a short time to live. Why form an attachment that would be broken so quickly? And it's not like they can have a baby and leave a legacy. Most of the stuff we accept as basic truths just don't apply to them.
This is by far my favorite part in XB3's plot and setting, I have some issues with things here and there and some of the Heroes are kind of weak or very same-y characters (plus I feel they bend to the protagonist's will too easily), but I really love exploring twists, removals, and alterations to just basic living concepts in fiction and fantasy to talk about life. Not so much the usual "What is life?" or "Who am I?" kind of philosophical ramblings that tends to involve discussions and dissections of life, but the outright removal or change in fundamental concepts that most people just know and accept. I suppose I like "What if?" questions as opposed to "What is?" type of questions. I liked that in XC2 too as Blades having no memory of their past lives while being effectively immortal and aware of this reincarnation-like cycle felt interesting to me. To me 3 is like that idea in 2, just on a much bigger scale as pretty much the entire world is influenced by this alteration in life's fundamental truths.

I find the whole 10 "terms" thing interesting as it really changes how you view life when your life exists for such a small span of time, and I found the fact they don't know what a fucking farm is back in Zeon's quest is telling of just how dependent these people are to the upper class in an unquestionable way. Which makes the whole colony ranking scheme even more fucked. You pretty much can't break out of this system, you're hunted and killed or you'll probably die of starvation as far as you know if you try if you try to leave on a mass scale like trying to make an independent city or nation. You almost don't even need mind control anyway, it seems like it is only used as a means of fun then as something Moebius actually needs to win.

The scene where they learn what babies are and what they look like as even Taion is fucking gasping in uncontrollably enthusiasm got me. When Mio and Noah silently ponder what it'd be like if they had a child as they look at each other, when they learn what a relationship and having a spouse is. When they learn what parenthood is, and all these extreme simply concepts just got me once I realized that these people just don't know and how depressing that must be. I have had very little really emotional moments in this story up to this point, more just silent and reserved interest with an occasional bit of shock here and there like when Joran came back. But seeing the party learn about basic life concepts just felt so emotional to me.
 
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Dunkey takes a lot of things out of context or to make quick jabs for comedy. While I can understand not liking XB3 because XB3 has its issues and might just be too rambling at times for its own good, using Dunkey's video is not a good way to get an understanding of what's going on at all. I watched it and their are some clear things edited around or obfuscated to make a joke or a comedic jab at the script. Most of the things Dunkey picks on narratively make more sense in context if you just read between the lines and not just take random splices of text you take very literally. Such as:

When guy one goes "You're not enemies", and then another one says in the next scene "Next we meet, it'll be as enemies." and Dunkey acts confused. This edit ignores the fact that the second guy has had outright distain for half the party's homeland for his entire life for very in-universe reasons, and these scenes are within at best an hour from each other in-universe time.

"Cities" aren't things in this world, they're called colonies which creates a queen ant vs colony ant sort of dichotomy where you have the leaders who are literally called Queens and everyone else is varying ranks of worker ants who literally live in colonies to do the Queen's biding. So going "That's a city you dumbass." when they question what a city is ignores what's going on if that is an genuine statement and not one made as a joke. These people don't know what cities or farming is, because of the information control in both of these opposing societies.

And most of this cast is indoctrinated as fuck from birth with half truths or outright lies, so certain obvious things to us doesn't make sense for these people as these people don't even know what aging is. Pretty much everyone here is effectively groomed, coerced into submission, or just outright brainwashed in some cases to be a certain way to keep the forever war running strong. Their is a lot of information control going on in this universe and all the plebs know is they're meant to kill the bad guys or they're dead.
I'm not sure why Dunkey gets a pass for these reviews a lot of the time, I get it, he's supposed to be an internet funny man but you can't use that as your persona, make a review filled with what you believe are legitimate criticisms and then shrug off any criticism of your serious criticisms as "just a joke."

Maybe I'd be a bit more forgiving if he also didn't outright spoil the game on Twitter (which any other reviewer would have been hung at the cross at) which is an objectively shit thing to do. Doesn't help that some people still like to bring up his XC2 video years after the fact for the same reasons (even if XC2 is arguably the worst in the series.)
 
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I'm not sure why Dunkey gets a pass for these reviews a lot of the time, I get it, he's supposed to be an internet funny man but you can't use that as your persona, make a review filled with what you believe are legitimate criticisms and then shrug off any criticism of your serious criticisms as "just a joke."

Maybe I'd be a bit more forgiving if he also didn't outright spoil the game on Twitter (which any other reviewer would have been hung at the cross at) which is an objectively shit thing to do. Doesn't help that some people still like to bring up his XB2 video years after the fact for the same reasons (even if XB2 is arguably the worst in the series.)
Dunkey talks with a lot of sarcasm to imply he is joking, until he doesn't do that. Sometimes he was being serious about his point and just shit talking and snarking about his very real feelings with sarcasm. Sometimes Dunkey has just very well made commentary because he was both funny and insightful so it is both a joke and genuine statement, and sometimes he talks normally and is still joking and the plain delivery is the joke the whole time. Dunkey has been pretty much this image since his whole game critics era these past handful of years when it comes to his hot takes. I think the only exception was TLOU2, as he still defends that game.

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At least he played the majority of 3 given he has very late story scenes in that video, so he gave it way more then a fair shake then he did with say Octopath and XB2. I think Dunkey himself is probably just an opinionated guy overall who likes to play the "I was joking" card to avoid drama until he doesn't want to like him trying to rile people on Twitter right now, but his fanbase over quotes him like he is the god of gaming or something.

Dunkey spoils shit all the time in his videos, unless it is a game he likes then he'll spoil warning. He spoiled KH3 too iirc. I didn't expect him to spoil XB3 because I thought he was going to quit it by chapter 3 or something.
 
Maybe I'd be a bit more forgiving if he also didn't outright spoil the game on Twitter (which any other reviewer would have been hung at the cross at) which is an objectively shit thing to do. Doesn't help that some people still like to bring up his XC2 video years after the fact for the same reasons (even if XC2 is arguably the worst in the series.)
Man I just wanted to play Funny Red Blade Game 2 without having people say "Hey, did you know that Tora is a creepy nopon perv", "Did you know Dahlia has disproportionately large badonkers" and "did you know Rex's voice actor can't yell" every two seconds. I can't say influencers ruined the game for me, I still loved it and will continue to say it's an amazing game (albeit with the most visible flaws), but I've never had another game where I felt like I had to justify my enjoyment of the game over and over again because the single-celled organisms called "Redditors" cannot comprehend you can enjoy something for the good parts, dislike the bad parts, and still say you enjoy the overall experience.

The dunkey drama is now just going to cause more of the same unfortunately. Even though Dunkey did objectively do something shitty by posting a major spoiler (despite what his dickrider fans say).
 
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Dunkey is an idiot and anyone who takes him seriously has shit taste.

Question about the game: If homecoming means you don't come back, does that apply to anyone who reached the 10 terms or just people who were sent away on the ceremony? Like Mio and Noah both died on their own before being revived as Moebius but we still had our Noah and Mio. I would be inclined to the second but wondering if it might be something I missed.
 
When I look at gameplay, it looks like an mmorpg.
With the big party and huge/many foes. I also have a ton of trouble telling what's going on.

Hearing about the story, I think it's also closer to xeno 2 than xeno.

I had a blast with xeno 1 remaster playing on low level with an everchanging party.

I think I will pass. I did not enjoy nor finish xeno 2 doubt I will like this one.
 
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