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Also, considering that demographic collapse, wasn't there a big thing about China collapsing in 30 days afew weeks ago? How's that going?
For some reason the youtube algorithm is pushing those "CHINA WILL IMPLODE RIGHT NOW" videos, and while they're not true and mostly clickbait, they're still in dire straits, but it's more of a slow death, than sudden collapse. Between the debt crisis, the housing market imploding and the demographic crisis, they're absolutely fucked, it's just a matter of how long they can hold out.
 
This girl came up on my recommend, don't know much of her but her maid cooking stream right now is entertaining.
Uh oh
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Do you still have her channel?
 
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For some reason the youtube algorithm is pushing those "CHINA WILL IMPLODE RIGHT NOW" videos, and while they're not true and mostly clickbait, they're still in dire straits, but it's more of a slow death, than sudden collapse. Between the debt crisis, the housing market imploding and the demographic crisis, they're absolutely fucked, it's just a matter of how long they can hold out.
Not to mention the whole COVID situation, and the fact they're still dealing with the occasional outbreak.

But enough politisperging, back to vPotatoesTubers
 
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Alright wtf is going on with MikeCat now
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She went on a rampage against a bunch of JP antis that are still following her around yesterday. A bunch of them got banned or deleted their accounts because she strongly implied she would sue for defamation.

Menhera or not, the people still harassing her are absolute faggots and I'm glad to see them get shat on.
 
VTubers treating their viewers like retarded toddlers when they're addressing male collabs will never not be funny. This one in particular makes me feel like I have down's syndrome when listening to it.


I wish they were more straightforward about this kind of shit instead of dancing around it, cause that thing she said about shipping was kinda retarded considering that a lot of holos encourage ships (tho personally I don't give a shit about these pairings outside of streams) and nobody was shipping her with the boys, unicorns were malding at the thought of it. But eh, I guess telling these people to kill themselves is not a good business practice
Bae actually addressed the whole shipping coworkers thing in a membership stream a week or so ago. Sounds like Kronii was trying to address it in the same way, but totally fumbled it (probably feom nerves). Bae was a lot more collected in her thoughts on the subject. She mentioned that they are only okay with it if both parties are and she asked members not to ship her with the Tempus boys or any other Holomems, aside from IRyS, as both her and IRyS agreed on having their ship, mutually before it was even a thing.

So, sounds like Kronii tried to address it in the same way Bae did, but failed miserably. All that said, shipping real people is cringe.
 
Kronii's fanbase should be happy to see her in this good mood. It's been a while that I actively watched her but I guess it's save to say that she really enjoyed this collab. At least she didn't sound like she is dead inside as so often.

There is going to be a great finale of Hololive Summer named Climax Story Live, a 3D concert with all 35 jp members plus Gura and Ina as special guests according to the announcement tweet (probably because of UmiSea). Starting in 2,5 hours
Watching this currently, mainly out of curiosity for what they're going to do with Ina and Gura.

Roboco looks way better with her hair down and no glasses. I almost didn't recognize her at first.

EDIT: UMISEA quartet song, it turns out.

EDIT: UMISEA is too forced for me, and all their scripted interactions tend to fall flat. However, more collabs between the members could potentially be good, so long as they're unscripted and the girls can play off each other naturally. More Gura/JP collabs here and there would be nice.

EDIT: Performance with yukatas. It's my first time seeing them and damn, Korone. This dog has some puppies.

EDIT: Oh shit, Ayame's performing. This doesn't count as a break in her streak does it? I was betting on 100 days at least.
 
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ILUNA is such a fucking interesting case study to me and my tendency to look at numbers and trends.

For starters - and as I mentioned before - they don't seem to have attracted the Chinese fujos literally at all. All of their viewership seems to be brand new Western fans, as their viewership barely overlaps with anyone no matter how many people stream in that slot.

Secondly is donations and viewership: Ren, Kyo, and Aster are 1st, 2nd, and 4th respectively for viewership, but 4th, 5th and 6th for donations. Maria is 3rd for viewership and 2nd for donations. Scarle and Aia make up 5th and 6th for viewership but 1st and 3rd for donations.

In other words, the girls have the lowest viewership but the highest donations. In fact, Scarle has the highest ratio of viewers to donations out of all the girls in the branch, which is quite the feat given she's an insomniac that streams when most of her audience are asleep. Aia has low live viewership but normal VOD views relative to other girls in the branch, which says to me that she has the fan base but she isn't accommodating them with her schedule.

Overall, the dispersion of V-Tuber fans between ILUNA and Tempus is relatively even. ILUNA currently averages a cumulative 13,100 viewers to Tempus' 13,800, and donations are currently something like $67K to $80K. I mention this because there were questions about cannibalisation due to their debut timing.

There's a bit more nuance to all this, as always, and I always mention nuance because numbers DO lie. It's also worthy of note that one is the debut Gen of a new branch whilst the other is the 6th Wave of a branch that debuts new people every couple of months. It seems that both gens have done well in their opening month.

Also Scarle is very based.
 
For some reason the youtube algorithm is pushing those "CHINA WILL IMPLODE RIGHT NOW" videos, and while they're not true and mostly clickbait, they're still in dire straits, but it's more of a slow death, than sudden collapse. Between the debt crisis, the housing market imploding and the demographic crisis, they're absolutely fucked, it's just a matter of how long they can hold out.
Hopefully we get a throwback episode and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom 2.0 rises up.

Anyway we should cut the political sperging on our beloved Vtuber forum
 
At what level of streaming will she be able to even quit the job and go full time? Always wonder what that mark is for live streamers. is it concurrent 1k live viewers or certain amount of subscribers?
Anecdotal, but I know someone who has been full time streaming for 6-7 years now with a stable ~230CCV on Twitch and seems to get by just fine with him and his wife while also living in Cali. His wife also works on and off I believe so it's not entirely 100% his income but whatever it was she does she'd been laid off during covid uprising and they still pulled through fine. A majority of his audience is subbed, he does pretty fine in donos though I don't have any hard numbers, he also doesn't run ads ever but does have a long term ongoing sponsorship with a beer company. Not sure what the payout difference is between twitch and youtube, that could also be a factor.
 
I mean, how hard would it have been to just slap them with some of the generic swimsuits?

Also, Ina looks like a fucking giant compared to the other girls lol
the hard part is when schizos,anti will stirr shit because "why gura and ina the only 2 that have swimsuit? how about calli?,kiara?,ame? cover is a black company,discriminating talent blablabla"
 
the hard part is when schizos,anti will stirr shit because "why gura and ina the only 2 that have swimsuit? how about calli?,kiara?,ame? cover is a black company,discriminating talent blablabla"
They already will do that with the two being included for the event and with them being in HoloGra, who cares about some swimsuits at that point.
 
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