How many marks are left?

[clothes in my closet]

Before I black holed my Twitter, there was a guy that was a genuine fan. I think his name was Daniel, he looks like a burns victim. Other than Bobby wheels this was the only genuine fan I noticed. Not sure if he's still around.

Oh, youre right! This wheelchair slipped my mind. You're talking about DanTheMan aka Redemption Games. Yeah he's still around. And he tweets at thots just like Derich lmao. Definitely another mark.

Spoiler: thot tweets

https://twitter.com/AzasGaming/status/1562301193833312268

https://twitter.com/AzasGaming/status/1552417043223556096

https://twitter.com/urIittleeva/status/1552273921709408260

 

[Poo Twister]

Oh, youre right! This wheelchair slipped my mind. You're talking about DanTheMan aka Redemption Games. Yeah he's still around. And he tweets at thots just like Derich lmao. Definitely another mark.

Spoiler: thot tweets

https://twitter.com/AzasGaming/status/1562301193833312268

https://twitter.com/AzasGaming/status/1552417043223556096

https://twitter.com/urIittleeva/status/1552273921709408260

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Ah, there's my boy. Head of the table is a gay bar euphemism.

 

[TheTractor]

How has this been proven?

When his stream set-up goes down but chat is still active you see an instant and significant drop in viewership that shouldn't happen otherwise.

 

[Piece of Peace]

When his stream set-up goes down but chat is still active you see an instant and significant drop in viewership that shouldn't happen otherwise.

I ran a test and I think that's just an idiosyncracy of YouTube streams. Not saying he is or isn't botting but I don't think that evidence carries enough weight on it's own to be significant.

Edit: if interested, here's the KF post the test.

 

[FaXmachine]

Lycifer.

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I assume guitarplayer1939 has also been around this long. Jaxx and Slayer also appeared around 2010, but they didn't start whaling till much later

The issue with him is he is ironic to a degree not only that but he's been banned so many times now. He was Junko wasn't he? He has come back under so many names.

I suppose you have to question, can a person be self aware and be a true DSP fan? In my option I do think they are mutually exclusive.

 

[豚蜚蠊]

I think you guys are really underestimating the number of pignosis victims. Dasboschitt doesn't seem like a retard, yet he went from making videos making fun of Phil to sending him thousands of dollars, it seems like the guy will do anything for Phil at this point. Similarly, Kghaleon isn't a derich yet even after being fucked over by Phil with the project 7 situation, he still mods for and vehemently defends Phil from the champions allegations despite the overwhelming evidence.

Phil legitimately does seem to be a capable manipulator at least with a certain type of person[loser].

 

[clothes in my closet]

I think you guys are really underestimating the number of pignosis victims. Dasboschitt doesn't seem like a retard, yet he went from making videos making fun of Phil to sending him thousands of dollars, it seems like the guy will do anything for Phil at this point. Similarly, Kghaleon isn't a derich yet even after being fucked over by Phil with the project 7 situation, he still mods for and vehemently defends Phil from the champions allegations despite the overwhelming evidence.

Phil legitimately does seem to be a capable manipulator at least with a certain type of person[loser].

With Das specifically, i do no believe he is a victim of Pignosis. Das went white knight not because of anything Phil said, but because of the behavior of detractors. Apparently to Das, joking about making some prank calls is abhorrent, but scamming people out of thousands isn't. He blindly defended Phil before WWEC was ever in the spotlight, and continued to support Phil after the evidence was laid out. Das isnt a retard, hes just a morally bankrupt brony faggot with an attachment to Phil, just like GothySenpai. I suspect that Jeff is in this camp as well. These people support Phil because they are attached and they think trolls are evil. They all know where the money goes.

Although you're right KG is definitely a good example of someone under Pignosis, although i dont believe he is anymore. I think he just hangs around Phils tumbleweed forum because he's a sad lonely faggot and has nothing else in his life aside from being a janny on a dead website where he has power.

I suppose I was thinking of current Pignosis victims, of which i still dont think there are many. I completely forgot KG because that creepy horse fucking faggot doesnt leave his forum anymore afaik

@FaXmachine are you asking is Lycifer is Junko? I'm pretty confident he isn't. Many of Phil's whales have been banned and come crawling back. Phrenelith and Snowkarl for example just off the top of my head. You can say these guys are ironic to a certain degree ,sure, but they are Phil simps through and through. I brought up Lycifer because, while he may troll a little bit from time to time, he's a fan whos been around forever.

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

I’m not sure if there are any fans fooled by Phil’s act at this point. Pretty sure they know about WWE Champions but just don’t care.

 

[Negative Toxic Loser]

When his stream set-up goes down but chat is still active you see an instant and significant drop in viewership that shouldn't happen otherwise.

I ran a test and I think that's just an idiosyncracy of YouTube streams. Not saying he is or isn't botting but I don't think that evidence carries enough weight on it's own to be significant.

Have to agree with PoP here, we shouldn't be touting conspiracies with weak to no evidence... Just more shit for @Silverchair to report back to Dave about... Though he likely still will, so don't listen to me, I ain't your fucking daddy.

 

[Sup3r]

Everyone already knows that the small number of whales are a permanent fixture. But what I find interesting is that Phil spends endless hours crafting lies and retcons to keep up the pignosis on maybe only one or two exceptionally naive people who don't even pay him. It's like he's putting on a private show without even realizing it.

I think that a lot of the pignosis at this point is just as much for Phil himself as much as it is for his paypigs, if not more so. His house of cards is leaning so much that any normal person can see how fucked it is (many of the 'chairs already know how dangerous it is) and yet Phil is in complete denial over it. That is despite him showing that he knows the score (the patreon video where he admitted he's likely to be begging until the day he dies) and everyone, including many of his fans, telling him how bad it is.

 

[FaXmachine]

@FaXmachine are you asking is Lycifer is Junko? I'm pretty confident he isn't. Many of Phil's whales have been banned and come crawling back. Phrenelith and Snowkarl for example just off the top of my head. You can say these guys are ironic to a certain degree ,sure, but they are Phil simps through and through. I brought up Lycifer because, while he may troll a little bit from time to time, he's a fan whos been around forever.

All I know is he got banned loads on Twitch so he came back under a variety of names, then eventually be back under his normal one. Something they way they typed seemed like him but I could be wrong.

I think if anything with the examples you gave it proves stupidity is a permanent disability, if those lot were going to leave they would of by now. I'm just not sure if I'd accept sneak dissers as proper fans but I guess they appreciate something somehow. Fuck knows what...

 

[Poo Twister]

Are there any former fans of Phil here?

 

[SkippyLongbottom]

I think you guys are really underestimating the number of pignosis victims. Dasboschitt doesn't seem like a retard, yet he went from making videos making fun of Phil to sending him thousands of dollars, it seems like the guy will do anything for Phil at this point. Similarly, Kghaleon isn't a derich yet even after being fucked over by Phil with the project 7 situation, he still mods for and vehemently defends Phil from the champions allegations despite the overwhelming evidence.

Phil legitimately does seem to be a capable manipulator at least with a certain type of person[loser].

I have a theory why people like him choose to actually take positions for people like Phil.

There is something there they can relate to but it could be anything. Resemblance to someone close like a family member or a friend of some sort. Could be they see a tiny thing in Phil like they probably spend money on the stupidest shit as well or have been bullied.

I can't think of any other reason someone would want to defend a shitbag like Phil.

 

[Sup3r]

I think you guys are really underestimating the number of pignosis victims. Dasboschitt doesn't seem like a retard, yet he went from making videos making fun of Phil to sending him thousands of dollars, it seems like the guy will do anything for Phil at this point. Similarly, Kghaleon isn't a derich yet even after being fucked over by Phil with the project 7 situation, he still mods for and vehemently defends Phil from the champions allegations despite the overwhelming evidence.

Phil legitimately does seem to be a capable manipulator at least with a certain type of person[loser].

With KG, it's obvious that he remains because it's the only place where he doesn't get his ass ratiod harder than DSP gets when he gets his new sweaty man, and that's only because he controls the site. Even then he didn't even really try to defend Phil with champions or the bank leaks, he just bitched about it coming from the farms, acting like that meant no one should believe it despite quite literally everyone else believing it. He isn't pro Phil, he's anti us.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

With KG, it's obvious that he remains because it's the only place where he doesn't get his ass ratiod harder than DSP gets when he gets his new sweaty man, and that's only because he controls the site. Even then he didn't even really try to defend Phil with champions or the bank leaks, he just bitched about it coming from the farms, acting like that meant no one should believe it despite quite literally everyone else believing it. He isn't pro Phil, he's anti us.

I'm pretty sure KG hasn't even watched Phil in years. Not even one of the YouTube videos. He only seems to know about Phil's drama subjects based on whether or not they're discussed here, but he doesn't seem to know anything about the actual games/streams Phil plays. He's up there as one of the more pathetic followers.

I have a theory why people like him choose to actually take positions for people like Phil.

There is something there they can relate to but it could be anything. Resemblance to someone close like a family member or a friend of some sort. Could be they see a tiny thing in Phil like they probably spend money on the stupidest shit as well or have been bullied.

I can't think of any other reason someone would want to defend a shitbag like Phil.

I think it's almost always them having been bullied. They see Phil like themselves, a "victim" who didn't do anything wrong, but gets a bunch of haters ruining his life because they're secretly jealous of how cool he is. Just like when they were bullied. That's why they don't care what Phil actually spends the money on and constantly bring up drama in chat. They want to be able to pat themselves on the back for beating the trolls because in their mind, they're really getting revenge on their old bullies. And on top of that, they get to pretend they're a generous hero for helping out the victimized underdog.

 

[Table Country]

A new one is born every day.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

A new one is born every day.

I know this is a joke response, but I think it was true at one point. A big difference between Phil from four or five years ago and Phil today is his lack of new members. Before, Phil somehow managed to attract at least a few new dents every so often. None that ever reached paypig status, but those smaller donations still added up. That's why he was able to reliably pull in a few grand whenever he did a big event/marathon. That's also why it didn't really matter that much when a named paypig managed to see the light and escape the goutsphere. He'd take a bit of a hit, but those smaller donators were still cycling in.

But he stagnated and ultimately chased away those new viewers. Too many long prestreams, constant begging, banning people in chat for the slightest thing, letting his mods run wild, being toxic on Twitter etc. While he was already in a bad spot with new viewership at the end of his Twitch days, making the jump to YouTube definitely didn't help. YouTube streaming just isn't nearly as popular as Twitch, and it seems harder to get discovered. Supporting is also harder on YouTube, and Phil also shot himself in the foot by being dismissive of superchats.

He obviously still has support, but a lot of it seems to be older fans who refuse to let go. And now that there's more legitimate information out there on his scams, it becomes that much harder to hook any new whales. I also think a lot of the sad, desperate types that are drawn towards Phil have more options on who to make their fake friend, so they no longer have to settle when they get bored of his begging spiel or other undesirable traits. Don't get me wrong, those loyal fans are still enough to keep him afloat for a long time, but we've seen before that even some of the most loyal paypigs don't last, even if it takes 5+ years for them to see the light. It's not impossible a new one does eventually step up, but it seems less likely these days. There's a reason we've mostly seen the same repeated names (or socks) cycling through to keep Phil around, but they will eventually leave, and if there's nobody new to replace them, it'll be a big hit.

 

[Retarded Ape Man]

Are there any former fans of Phil here?

i wasnt exactly a fan of his but i was a neutral observer/chatter. i probably donated a total of $20 during my tenure as a denthead. i had a standard yt membership on his channel for a handful of months. eventually the lies and antics led me to cross fully over into a detractor. i regret ever giving him money

 

[clothes in my closet]

i wasnt exactly a fan of his but i was a neutral observer/chatter. i probably donated a total of $20 during my tenure as a denthead. i had a standard yt membership on his channel for a handful of months. eventually the lies and antics led me to cross fully over into a detractor. i regret ever giving him money

What about DSP's content made you want to be a member on his channel?

 

[Retarded Ape Man]

What about DSP's content made you want to be a member on his channel?

i mainly did it because i wanted to support but actually get something from it instead of just tipping, with a green name being a nice bonus and being able to vote on member polls. phil would always weasel out of actually doing anything the members voted on though and instead just leave shit up to public polls with perhaps one option the members "came together and voted on". after i realized how pointless the member posts and polls actually were i really only stayed a member to maintain the green name in chat