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[Registration]

I don’t really like most anime, but I watched Fate/Zero and Unlimited Blade Works a few weeks ago and both were fun to watch. Fate/Zero is better, but UBW has great fights. What I do hate about UBW is what they did to Gilgamesh. What a shitty death for a great character. Shirou is also uninteresting compared to Kiritsugu, who had character. I refuse to believe Gary Stu Shirou could actually kill Gilgamesh without his anime plot armor.

you are what I call a zeroretard, the kind of simpleton that doesn't realize that zero is just an attempt of the themes of stay night and think.
The fact that you watched both series and still didn't realize that EMIYA is the result of kiritsugu's ideal and he cames and confronts Shirou about it with his full contempt for it in the end. And how each of the three characters born out of the same idea are drastically different and two of them being way more developed than one (Kiritsugu).
Kiritsugu is so pathetic that I can't even fathoom the idea of someone saying that he had character, unlike both Shirou and EMIYA. The fact that an adult like him completely accepted the idea of the holy grail and went with the idea to change the world as an adult is still unnaceptable, even more when people like to paint him as a mature character. Shirou, as a magus who knew nothing knew that it was bullshit from the start.
And even more: They even went into a paralel world, to a different series, and made a prequel movie showcasing how inept Kiritsugu always was and how Shirou is the superior character:

Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya: Oath under the Snow

Illya’s normal life is suddenly halted by the Kaleidostick Ruby, a magical wand on the run from her former master who instantly decides that little Illya has...

www.youtube.com

fuck fate zero boring shit and fuck kiritsugu

 

[Tism the Return]

watched dangaioh for the first time and holy shit
I couldn't give it a 5/10 harder if I tried, it is just mediocre.

Dangaioh is held up by a good opening and hardcore nostalgiafagging, that's it.

 

[kūhaku]

you are what I call a zeroretard, the kind of simpleton that doesn't realize that zero is just an attempt of the themes of stay night and think.
The fact that you watched both series and still didn't realize that EMIYA is the result of kiritsugu's ideal and he cames and confronts Shirou about it with his full contempt for it in the end. And how each of the three characters born out of the same idea are drastically different and two of them being way more developed than one (Kiritsugu).
Kiritsugu is so pathetic that I can't even fathoom the idea of someone saying that he had character, unlike both Shirou and EMIYA. The fact that an adult like him completely accepted the idea of the holy grail and went with the idea to change the world as an adult is still unnaceptable, even more when people like to paint him as a mature character. Shirou, as a magus who knew nothing knew that it was bullshit from the start.
And even more: They even went into a paralel world, to a different series, and made a prequel movie showcasing how inept Kiritsugu always was and how Shirou is the superior character:

Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya: Oath under the Snow

Illya’s normal life is suddenly halted by the Kaleidostick Ruby, a magical wand on the run from her former master who instantly decides that little Illya has...

www.youtube.com

fuck fate zero boring shit and fuck kiritsugu

That's a lot of sperging to just say fate looks boring and lame

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

To me it always seemed like Gilgamesh lost cause his major character flaw is being too arrogant to take his opponent seriously until it is too late. Shiro probably couldn't have taken that arm off if Gil had actually been wearing his armor.

Yeah, Gil's arrogance is what gets him killed in everything. Which is needed considering he would just roll everyone with Ea and Enkidu if he used them immediately lol

 

[Overcast]

Almost forty episodes in with Eureka Seven.

This show is quickly becoming one of my favorites. The character development and growth is top notch and I really like the reoccurring theme regarding how different couples handle things differently and the nature of co-existence.

So far, one of my favorite moments in the show has got to be when Eureka was falling and Renton reached out and pulled her into the Nirvash. It was beautifully animated and the music made the whole thing all the more satisfying.

The whole thing just feels... pure and genuine.

 

[Akumaten]

So far, one of my favorite moments in the show has got to be when Eureka was falling and Renton reached out and pulled her into the Nirvash

During episodes 20-39, short-haired Eureka became my favorite character. I really liked her opening up than being a Rei clone. As crazy as it sounds, I liked her with the scars. She looked beautiful with them.

 

[Overcast]

During episodes 20-39, short-haired Eureka became my favorite character. I really liked her opening up than being a Rei clone. As crazy as it sounds, I liked her with the scars. She looked beautiful with them.

Really loved how she opened up to Renton. I was kinda expecting a “Will they? Won’t they?” kind of thing for almost the entirety of the show, but they moved things along at a good rate.

 

[Oddjob OTP]

I dropped that whole series during the whole several year gap between index season 2 and 3. By then it was all retarded coomershit,

Season 3 was alright, basically a bunch of rude wizards from the Vatican show up and start WW3 in an effort to beat up god

The funny part is that by the end of the 3rd season I've written off Touma and Accelerator became the main character for me. He might be a brainlet nihilist shithead edgelord but his relationship with Last Order has given him more personal growth then everyone else in the series put together.

 

[Namekian George Floyd]

you are what I call a zeroretard, the kind of simpleton that doesn't realize that zero is just an attempt of the themes of stay night and think.
The fact that you watched both series and still didn't realize that EMIYA is the result of kiritsugu's ideal and he cames and confronts Shirou about it with his full contempt for it in the end. And how each of the three characters born out of the same idea are drastically different and two of them being way more developed than one (Kiritsugu).
Kiritsugu is so pathetic that I can't even fathoom the idea of someone saying that he had character, unlike both Shirou and EMIYA. The fact that an adult like him completely accepted the idea of the holy grail and went with the idea to change the world as an adult is still unnaceptable, even more when people like to paint him as a mature character. Shirou, as a magus who knew nothing knew that it was bullshit from the start.
And even more: They even went into a paralel world, to a different series, and made a prequel movie showcasing how inept Kiritsugu always was and how Shirou is the superior character:

Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya: Oath under the Snow

Illya’s normal life is suddenly halted by the Kaleidostick Ruby, a magical wand on the run from her former master who instantly decides that little Illya has...

www.youtube.com

fuck fate zero boring shit and fuck kiritsugu

"Muh themes"
Nigga, Shirou is a bland Shonen protagonist with a worldview on the level of Parappa The Rapper and Kiritsugu is a jaded adult with a more complex worldview formed by a life of trauma and I like Shonen protagonists but to claim that Shirou is a better character or that Kiritsugu wasn't written in a way that makes his beliefs understandable even if wrong, you're just bad at media comprehension and also have shit taste. Also, Fate UBW is poo poo garbage, I'm gonna read the VN eventually because I've yet to watch an anime of a VN that doesn't take a big shit all over the source material but when you look at all of the characters involved and what is happening on a moment-to-moment basis, I have no idea how anybody can watch Zero and UBW and come out the other end thinking UBW is the better anime.

 

[Jimboree]

"Muh themes"
Nigga, Shirou is a bland Shonen protagonist with a worldview on the level of Parappa The Rapper and Kiritsugu is a jaded adult with a more complex worldview formed by a life of trauma and I like Shonen protagonists but to claim that Shirou is a better character or that Kiritsugu wasn't written in a way that makes his beliefs understandable even if wrong, you're just bad at media comprehension and also have shit taste. Also, Fate UBW is poo poo garbage, I'm gonna read the VN eventually because I've yet to watch an anime of a VN that doesn't take a big shit all over the source material but when you look at all of the characters involved and what is happening on a moment-to-moment basis, I have no idea how anybody can watch Zero and UBW and come out the other end thinking UBW is the better anime.

You're right about needing to read the VN, both anime adaptations are missing gigantic chunks of Shirou's characterization, namely the ones that make him more than the "bland Shonen protagonist" you see him as. Registration also seems to be coming from the point of view of having read the VN, right down to malding over anime-onlies who are understandably holding the more well-adapted Fate/Zero over the poor adaptations of the VN. I honestly don't blame him, though, the VN itself I'd say is at its best way better than Zero.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

On the Fate discussion, honestly the anime adaptations of Stay/Night are not really that good for the most part with Unlimited Blade Works honestly being more of a highlight reel. Ufotable has this worse than even DEEN (except for their UBW movie which was complete shit) because of the mindset of the studio that decided to treat UBW and Heaven's Feel as Zero sequels than the other way around. It also cuts a lot of Shirou's views and many critical scenes that make up who he is. So Shirou in the anime is robbed of a lot of characteristics he has especially with Nasu making retarded decisions on how he should be handled by relying on facial expressions. Not to mention the horrible casting he is in the dub for people who watch UBW/HF through dub only and hear the grating voice of Bryce Papenbrook.

It doesn't help other characters are bogged down by these adaptations (the worst offenders being Saber, Illya, and Kirei). Saber for instance never gets proper representation since her route was the only one not animated by Ufotable and is just the focus of DEEN, so the only major focus is Zero which both the LN and Anime made her into a drooling retard who barely acts like the character she was established to be in the VN, whereas Kirei and Illya have a lot of their content cut, especially in Heaven's Feel due to the movie limit and Ufotable's focus on making servant action scenes which look nice but are really stupid.

The VN is the only true way to enjoy Fate/Stay Night. With Zero, the anime is better over the LN though the LN has some moments that would've been nice in the anime like Kiritsugu's inner monologue about how he eats food, and the backstories of certain servants which were cut.

 

[DICTATOR]

I've been getting into reading light novels and enjoying it since it is fresh to read a book after always looking at pictures in manga or watching anime. My first series was KonoSuba and I liked the humor in it, but haven't watched the anime etc since I think it will conflict with my imagination after reading 17 light novels in a row. Currently reading Spice and Wolf and already think its one of the best works of fiction ever. I have nothing in mind to read after Spice and Wolf so hoping for any "must read" light novel recommendations.

 

[Namekian George Floyd]

You're right about needing to read the VN, both anime adaptations are missing gigantic chunks of Shirou's characterization, namely the ones that make him more than the "bland Shonen protagonist" you see him as. Registration also seems to be coming from the point of view of having read the VN, right down to malding over anime-onlies who are understandably holding the more well-adapted Fate/Zero over the poor adaptations of the VN. I honestly don't blame him, though, the VN itself I'd say is at its best way better than Zero.

NGL, I want to read the VN but everyone tells me the first route is really boring and lame which puts me off from it in general. I'll probably end up reading Tsukihime before Fate.

Not to mention the horrible casting he is in the dub for people who watch UBW/HF through dub only and hear the grating voice of Bryce Papenbrook.

Bryce Papenbrook is like the worst VA in the English language, I do not understand his continuous success. Casting him as Eren Jaeger was a bad idea in the first place but it is downright comedic how ill-fitted he is for the role post-timeskip.

 

[Johnny Salami]

Oh God the Magical Index/Scientific Railgun series is up there on my list of "Shit to watch but oh God it's all over the place, gimme broadcast order or I'll die".

Index season 1
Railgun
Index season 2
Railgun S
Accelerator
Index season 3
Railgun T
it's funny how the Raildex series was big in the late 2000s/early 2010s but left the collective conscious of the anime world. All because of the huge gap between season 2 and 3. I swear it was all Haruhi and Misaka cosplay in 2009

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Bryce Papenbrook is like the worst VA in the English language, I do not understand his continuous success.

Outside of being Bob Papenbrook's boy, I think he just got super lucky with being pigeon-holed into roles of very popular anime in the 2010s.

But I dunno, I suppose I just feel bad for him. He clearly wanted to be alongside his dad in the voice-acting industry just to lose him before he could prove or not prove himself to Bob, he just had to first be cast in legit shitty anime. While he's been successful since then, he just doesn't have his father's talent.

I feel like there is a role where he was actually good, but I couldn't tell you what it is. Even going through his filmography eludes me (maybe it was Staz Charlie Blood from Blood Lad).

Index season 1
Railgun
Index season 2
Railgun S
Accelerator
Index season 3
Railgun T

I'll bookmark this so I won't forget, hopefully I'm not too much of an over-thinking tard to where I find myself getting lost wondering which is which lol.

 

[Doctor of Autism]

NGL, I want to read the VN but everyone tells me the first route is really boring and lame which puts me off from it in general. I'll probably end up reading Tsukihime before Fate.

While the first route is pretty basic, the Fate route is actually really pretty good since Shirou has the best relationship with Saber compared to Rin and Sakura. It's more traditional in its storytelling but it is carried by Shirou and Saber. Also Gilgamesh definitely has his best showing in this route. Like the only reason it's seen that way is either due to DEEN's adaptation or the fact the route does have a lot of exposition but it's understandable since it's the first Fate content

Bryce Papenbrook is like the worst VA in the English language, I do not understand his continuous success. Casting him as Eren Jaeger was a bad idea in the first place but it is downright comedic how ill-fitted he is for the role post-timeskip.

Yeah like Bryce has connections I think, but his issue is that he plays the most generic Shonen protagonists however and keeps that voice for characters who don't fit it. Eren and Shirou are great examples of characters miscast that are played by Papenbrook. Shirou's case is explicitly evident since his english VA for Prillya and the DEEN anime are better than Papenbrook.

 

[LightDragonman1]

I said it before, but no joke, I honestly think that one of the best Fate adaptations is the one for Prisma Illya. For me, it just seemed to have better pacing, characterization, and execution than nearly all the others, aside from Zero and Heaven’s Feel.

Plus, it had arguably one of the most compelling stories in Oath Under Snow.

 

[kūhaku]

Index season 1
Railgun
Index season 2
Railgun S
Accelerator
Index season 3
Railgun T
it's funny how the Raildex series was big in the late 2000s/early 2010s but left the collective conscious of the anime world. All because of the huge gap between season 2 and 3. I swear it was all Haruhi and Misaka cosplay in 2009

I'm still mad they nerfed accelerator. He was the most interesting character to me and him becoming weaker made my interest in this series drop considerably. I don't remember where I stopped but I ended up not finishing because it was getting too ridiculous.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

You're right about needing to read the VN, both anime adaptations are missing gigantic chunks of Shirou's characterization, namely the ones that make him more than the "bland Shonen protagonist" you see him as. Registration also seems to be coming from the point of view of having read the VN, right down to malding over anime-onlies who are understandably holding the more well-adapted Fate/Zero over the poor adaptations of the VN. I honestly don't blame him, though, the VN itself I'd say is at its best way better than Zero.

Thing with Shirou is that the idea behind him is more interesting than he himself is. He wants to be a hero like he thinks his dad was, only he pretty much blocks the fact he needs to compromise when it's lesser evil vs. evil, or costs his own happiness, as well as being utterly willing to sacrifice himself if it would mean saving one person.
But it mainly comes out as Shirou bashing his head against the wall over and over in Fate and UBW and coming on top due to plot reasons, while Heaven's Feel he's okay with his girlfriend eating people and potentially destroying the world because those are fantastic pair of tits.

 

[Vapewizard]

My personal problem with the first route in the FSN VN is that I think the obligatory romance element due to the medium drags the storytelling down moreso than in the other routes, on top of the route already being burdened with having to explain the setting and lore. It's just kind of strange how much Shirou whines about how Saber shouldn't have to fight cause she's a girl even though it literally never comes up with any of the other love interests and he himself pretty much drops it halfway through that story. Gilgamesh's obsession with Saber also seems to be more a thing in this route than the others in order for him to be some sort of fucked up love rival and in the end it just never made sense to me that Saber would fall for Shirou.