US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Fatboi Gus]

Without power leveling I can confirm number two is the biggest group now because lots of group one got the shaft hard on promotions and bent over by Afghanistan. Calling the loyalist amongst your ranks white supremacists terrorist doesn't help ether

Not to request more power levelimg but is my intuition about #2 being fair weather friends who will bail/get pregnant/mysteriously get light but severe enough to not deploy injuries the minute things get hot? Seems to me that this would be their rational behavior in that situation.

 

[Matt Damon]

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Okay, what in the fuck is going on here? This is the office of the President of the United States and they're not even competent enough to plausibly backpedal anymore - they didn't even make an attempt.

I'm more upset at the insult to my intelligence than I am at the insane inflammatory rhetoric.

 

[Grundlejungle]

Its true that culture loops every 20 years or so. fucking YTMND Hitler memes are back babby.

 

[JohnDoe]

7. Pretty sure in an actual civil war things would go sideways the moment water and electricity plants, as well as farms, get attacked.

A single well placed device will cripple a power/water plant, maybe destroy it permanently. Rebuilding a power/water plant can take years, and lots of resources. On top of that, you usually don't have rows of power/water plants right next to each other able to pick up some slack during the repair/rebuild.

The ROI on infrastructure attacks heavily favors the distributed rural networks.

 

[Maamtis]

That might be the most boneheaded political movie I've seen, or will ever see, in my entire life.

 

[NyQuilninja]

It’s really depends on MOS. You could easily tell who number 2 was by how loud they complain about the new ACFT being unfair and how physical fitness was hijacked by crossfit bros.

Anyone with an indoor mottiff for a MOS definitely a number 2 and will likely contact work on base once out of uniform. BASE RATS so to speak

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

The issue isn't Biden giving the speech. He didn't write it and has probably forgotten he even gave it at this point. The issue is the people around him who wrote and approved that speech and then handed it too him. Biden is a puppet for the Federal Beaurocracy and last night we got to see what they think about us raw and unfiltered.

It doesn't matter WHO is President. The people who wrote that speech and believed every word of it will still be in charge.

I think this is more of a case of "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks." They are desperate to get out of this downturn in popularity by November.

They see the MAGA half of Republicans enduring if not growing, and those guys are "extremists", so what if we had the puppet say inflammatory extremist things too? Hopefully it will work.

 

[Hallucinogenic Penguin]

My comparison of the Biden administration to a BPD girlfriend is becoming more and more apt. "Hey, baby. I know I called you a violent extremist and an existential threat to our democracy last night, but you know I didn't mean it. C'mon man, you know how I get when I don't get my naps and ice cream."

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Guess his speech didn’t have the desired effect.

 

[Overly Serious]

A lot of talk about whether this conflict goes hot. And a lot of that talk informed and insightful. But there's a quote from Shakespeare's Antony and Cleopatra which comes to my mind: "Tis better playing with a lion's welp, than with an old one, dying."

In short, the ascendant young power is in some ways less dangerous than the established king who feels power slip away from him. We saw how the Establishment lashed out and is still lashing out like crazy at the first genuine loss of control that it has experienced in a long time. I don't hold Trump up as Jesus or a saint but I do believe that he was a genuine an outsider to the established plan. It was her turn! Maybe he's a bull in a china shop but unarguably this is not business as usual. Because for all the (entirely correct) comments above about how many tools the State has in terms of surveillance and media control ultimately all of that is focused on one goal - keep people from organizing en masse. Because modern technology has given the State many more eyes and many more mouths, but not so much in the way of more arms. They can't manage a large scale resistance. Trump has currently put a face on a lot of people's resistance. You can nip movements in the bud like the Tea Party. They cut it a bit finer with Occupy. But when the people cohere past a certain point it gets exponentially hard.

The whole of the modern state is a few people running round snuffing out small flames in an arsenal. The amount of flapping and blowing the Establishment is doing right now makes me think this fire has actually caught.

I don’t think it’ll ever happen because the conservatives willingly surrendered. January 6 is evidence of that. I don’t see masses of people demanding they be freed, mostly it’s just limited to grumbling on the Internet in fewer and fewer locations. Even then most conservatives responded with their tail between their legs, hoping to convince leftists that they’re not the bad ones.

An employee at my company was very vocal and irritable for quite a while. Then he went quiet, stopped complaining and about three weeks later he quit with no notice leaving everyone screwed over trying to pick up the pieces.

I haven't seen people on the Right in America get less angry. In fact, I think they're getting angrier.

 

[KEKMUHLORD]

Ah, yes. The thing that really brings in the independent voters and changes hearts and minds. Saying anyone who does not share the exact same policy views as me is an enemy of the state and a traitor to the U.S.

 

[NyQuilninja]

Not to request more power levelimg but is my intuition about #2 being fair weather friends who will bail/get pregnant/mysteriously get light but severe enough to not deploy injuries the minute things get hot? Seems to me that this would be their rational behavior in that situation.

Yup righ on all points. these comprise the vast herds of diversity hires and bureaucrats that push the pencils and shuffle forms about. As well as the "I only signed up for free education crew" . none of them are much use in a real shtf situation and most will side with there best interests

 

[The-Patriarchy]

My comparison of the Biden administration to a BPD girlfriend is becoming more and more apt. "Hey, baby. I know I called you a violent extremist and an existential threat to our democracy last night, but you know I didn't mean it. C'mon man, you know how I get when I don't get my naps and ice cream."

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This really takes the cake- he's writing off his transformation into Hitler as if he were hand waving away an angry drunken email to his ex at 3am after a few bottles of tequila.

 

[Cantercoin]

That might be the most boneheaded political movie I've seen, or will ever see, in my entire life.

"Never underestimate Joes ability to fuck things up"

 

[Sithis]

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1565771199505960960?t=jxngMEIwUdzZgqwC4ytzEg&s=19

The Cathedral is reorganizing it's power structure apparently

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

especially after Pearl Harbor crippled American navy capacity

There were no carriers in port when the Japanese Navy attacked. With WWII being the twilight of the battleship, the US Navy was never crippled. This allowed them to turtle up for 6 months. When the Japanese tried for a second decisive, their codes were broken, their strategic surprise nonexistent, and they lost 4 fleet carriers for the trouble.

Here's hoping this plays out anywhere near that well.

 

[The-Patriarchy]

Does anyone have a recording of Joe's speech that replaces the phrase "extreme MAGA republicans" with "Jews"?

Die MAGA wir mussen ausrotten!

 

[Overly Serious]

In the case of civil war whichever side makes the first move wins. There will be no army attacks but rather a disabling first strike on water and electricity services, which will outright decimate the population over a matter of weeks. And whoever thinks those people in bumfuck nowhere who grow their own food are safe, remember that the urbanites will suddenly remember where food comes from and will descend on those places like locust.
At best you can have mutual annihilation.

Inner city hordes aren't going to go raiding farmlands. For a start they wouldn't know what to do with most of it when they got there. Arrive in a field of potatoes and corn? They're going to break out spades and start digging them up? And then cook them then and there? Or drive back to the city with a boot full of spuds? What are they going to do with a grain silo? Do you think they could butcher a pig? Nah. First they turn on each other. Raiding the prepared horders. Looting of their closest neighbours. And the looting of shops whether those shops have food or not. And trying to block and loot any van or truck that looks like it might be delivering food.

When they march out it will be to the surrounding suburbs. They'll loot any shops and houses that might have food there.

At that point, their logical target would be food processing sites. But they'll be governed largely by rumour at that point. And they wont be some cohesive mob but small groups in cars trying to do night raids. That can be curtailed within days by simply shutting off fuel supplies to the cities. America is huge. You're not going to see mass mobilisation of hungry urbanites if the pumps are dry.

I don't think you would see this. The US government would manage to get food supplies in there enough to keep people ticking over. But if we DID see that level of food shortages it wouldn't be some mass or organised raids on farmlands. It would be a dispersal of hungry people becoming semi-vagrants as they marched out of the cities looking for places to raid. Less an uprising, more a rise in robberies.

 

[The Last Stand]

Its always fun to compare how W. Bush and Trump are viewed:
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Clearly someone thought one was a threat and the other one wasn't.

Wasn't Bushism meant to be a joke towards his speaking mannerisms?

The Bush family started years of forever wars in the Middle East, a housing recession and a violation of American privacy with the Patriot Act.

All Trump (practically) did was tweet excessively, yet he's viewed WORSE than Bush. That's amazing. Nobody even cared about him when he was a tycoon.

 

[Matt Damon]

There were no carriers in port when the Japanese Navy attacked. With WWII being the twilight of the battleship, the US Navy was never crippled.

Sure, but nobody knew this at the time. If they had everyone would've stopped wasting their time and resources building enormously expensive battleships during the inter-war period.

 

[Hallucinogenic Penguin]

Inner city hordes aren't going to go raiding farmlands. For a start they wouldn't know what to do with most of it when they got there. Arrive in a field of potatoes and corn? They're going to break out spades and start digging them up? And then cook them then and there? Or drive back to the city with a boot full of spuds? What are they going to do with a grain silo? Do you think they could butcher a pig? Nah. First they turn on each other. Raiding the prepared horders. Looting of their closest neighbours. And the looting of shops whether those shops have food or not. And trying to block and loot any van or truck that looks like it might be delivering food.

When they march out it will be to the surrounding suburbs. They'll loot any shops and houses that might have food there.

At that point, their logical target would be food processing sites. But they'll be governed largely by rumour at that point. And they wont be some cohesive mob but small groups in cars trying to do night raids. That can be curtailed within days by simply shutting off fuel supplies to the cities. America is huge. You're not going to see mass mobilisation of hungry urbanites if the pumps are dry.

I don't think you would see this. The US government would manage to get food supplies in there enough to keep people ticking over. But if we DID see that level of food shortages it wouldn't be some mass or organised raids on farmlands. It would be a dispersal of hungry people becoming semi-vagrants as they marched out of the cities looking for places to raid. Less an uprising, more a rise in robberies.

Someone also brought up that the population of fish and wild game like deer and elk would plummet to near extinction levels with millions of people searching for food and hunting it down. Do you see this as likely?