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- Dec 29, 2021
You all know a huge component of the campaign is the alleged kiwifarms bodycount, with the pictures and names and the "never forget"s and the crying into cameras and so on. Since they don't want these people to be forgotten, I figured we should take some time to remember their lives and the pain they went through thanks to kiwifarms, starting with Chloe Sagal.
(note: I am using she/her pronouns here because even the posts on her Kiwifarms thread referred to her this way, so after reading so much about her this is just how it's come out)
I'd like to point out that even at the time of Chloe's suicide there was no shortage of people coming out on social media to blame Kiwifarms:
even a familiar tactic:
but most notable of all was when people who knew Chloe in person went to the local media to explain to them it was Kiwifarms' fault(archive link):
This all sounds pretty compelling, but you'll notice nobody is actually quoting Chloe, even people who were apparently very close to her and certain that Kiwifarms was at fault. Why is that? Well, the article goes on to say:
A machete? That's a hell of a thing to gloss over. What was that for?
It continues:
At this point you may be thinking wait, back up, why did the article blow past this
You'd think suddenly being homeless would be more significant than Kiwifarms, right? Well:
So Chloe herself said that it was being ejected from her home that pushed her over the edge, and made no mention of internet harassment. Notice the journalist who wrote the article points the finger at the online hate mob in one paragraph and then mentions the suicide victim says something completely different further in the article.
What isn't mentioned in the article is that before Chloe killed herself she made several posts referencing her financial struggles, her impending homelessness, and struggles with being disabled and ostracized from both family and friends:
the 200 dollars being from a rapidly dwindling patreon:
But no matter what Chloe was complaining about she was always very consistent in blaming one thing, and it wasn't Kiwifarms.
It was the trans community.
As Chloe saw it the trans community was a den of jackals, there to lovebomb you when they need you, and when they're done using you they either toss you aside or turn you into a pariah, the next villain they'll claim they're fighting so they can make more money denigrating you.
Chloe laid out these frustrations in a Patreon post from 2016 (archive):
She blamed these four for ruining her life and causing her to kill herself. For those who don't know, all four are transwomen.
perhaps more damningly, Chloe also predicted that the lack of support she got would only serve the egos of the exact people she blamed for her problems:
Chloe reiterated her resentment towards what she saw as cynical exploitation of people's pain, by privileged transwomen:
Were all these feelings justified? Well:
Before finally committing suicide, Chloe's suicidal ideations became a running joke in certain trans circles online. People who had previously welcomed Chloe as part of anti-gamergate groups had slowly started to grow cold towards her before eventually cutting her off entirely. This post details how this group of friends took Chloe in, got what they could, and left her behind with little explanation.
In turn, Chloe blamed Brianna Wu for ruining her financially after her IndieGoGo was suddenly shut down and she started bleeding followers on Patreon:
Blamed Zindiana Jones for spreading dirt on her name to get her shunned from trans circles in an attempt to get her to kill herself:
Blamed Lexi Leigh Richardson for her homelessness:
Chloe also blamed others such as Sarah Nyberg for her deteriorating condition, and expressed feeling anger, betrayal, and neglect at the hands of the trans community and their support systems:
even when Chloe did mention Kiwifarms, she framed the site as a place where more successful transwomen could go to bully less fortunate transwomen while keeping their hands clean:
even a familiar tactic:
but most notable of all was when people who knew Chloe in person went to the local media to explain to them it was Kiwifarms' fault(archive link):
This all sounds pretty compelling, but you'll notice nobody is actually quoting Chloe, even people who were apparently very close to her and certain that Kiwifarms was at fault. Why is that? Well, the article goes on to say:
A machete? That's a hell of a thing to gloss over. What was that for?
It continues:
At this point you may be thinking wait, back up, why did the article blow past this
You'd think suddenly being homeless would be more significant than Kiwifarms, right? Well:
So Chloe herself said that it was being ejected from her home that pushed her over the edge, and made no mention of internet harassment. Notice the journalist who wrote the article points the finger at the online hate mob in one paragraph and then mentions the suicide victim says something completely different further in the article.
What isn't mentioned in the article is that before Chloe killed herself she made several posts referencing her financial struggles, her impending homelessness, and struggles with being disabled and ostracized from both family and friends:
the 200 dollars being from a rapidly dwindling patreon:
But no matter what Chloe was complaining about she was always very consistent in blaming one thing, and it wasn't Kiwifarms.
It was the trans community.
As Chloe saw it the trans community was a den of jackals, there to lovebomb you when they need you, and when they're done using you they either toss you aside or turn you into a pariah, the next villain they'll claim they're fighting so they can make more money denigrating you.
Chloe laid out these frustrations in a Patreon post from 2016 (archive):
She blamed these four for ruining her life and causing her to kill herself. For those who don't know, all four are transwomen.
perhaps more damningly, Chloe also predicted that the lack of support she got would only serve the egos of the exact people she blamed for her problems:
Chloe reiterated her resentment towards what she saw as cynical exploitation of people's pain, by privileged transwomen:
Were all these feelings justified? Well:
Before finally committing suicide, Chloe's suicidal ideations became a running joke in certain trans circles online. People who had previously welcomed Chloe as part of anti-gamergate groups had slowly started to grow cold towards her before eventually cutting her off entirely. This post details how this group of friends took Chloe in, got what they could, and left her behind with little explanation.
In turn, Chloe blamed Brianna Wu for ruining her financially after her IndieGoGo was suddenly shut down and she started bleeding followers on Patreon:
Blamed Zindiana Jones for spreading dirt on her name to get her shunned from trans circles in an attempt to get her to kill herself:
Blamed Lexi Leigh Richardson for her homelessness:
Chloe also blamed others such as Sarah Nyberg for her deteriorating condition, and expressed feeling anger, betrayal, and neglect at the hands of the trans community and their support systems:
even when Chloe did mention Kiwifarms, she framed the site as a place where more successful transwomen could go to bully less fortunate transwomen while keeping their hands clean:
But Chloe also hated the fakeness and opportunism so prevalent in trans and social justice spaces, the way many prominent figures act personally aggrieved by the loss of a person they were never around to help when they needed it. Chloe hated having to live under these people's terms in order to avoid being crucified on social media by the same trans community she relied on so much.
If there's one thing you take away from all of this, I want it to be in Chloe's own words:
Thanks for reading.
