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It’s kinda odd that the Hindenburg and the Challenger is considered more offensive than the Titanic.
Hidenburg was Nazi germany reference with KFP logo on the blimp which implies that we knew about Austrian deception in convincing the world that Hitler was German (Austrian fail artist).

Challenger being offensive is kinda wild since it’s more or less not a problem for most Americans (joke about 9/11 should be more offensive than that tbh).

the Mumei horse scene chasing after Ollie while Moona working on the rubber tree was tweaked probably as a reference to early Indonesia colonial by the Dutch who used the ethnic Indonesian as hunting sport and force labor in growing rubber trees (Mumei being Dutch descent while Fauna being French descent is cherry on top). I can see how it might tilt the local Indonesians.

Overall, unless you are loving dark humor while being offended at said humor, I don’t think there’s any problem with the original video unless you spend too much time looking into it.
 
Indonesia doesn't suffer the same kind of idol culture Japan has. Or maybe it's just because Kobo's fans don't actually simp for her but see her as a fun spoiled brat. Makes you think if Pekora would actually get in trouble collabing with a male since I haven't seen a Nousagi that sees Pekora like they do the normal hololive vtuber.
It's mostly the former. Indonesians don't really give a damn, but it doesn't mean that the usual JP-style idol culture-like folks doesn't exist. It just mostly the minority (or K-pop stans, which is different breed altogether).

In Kobo case, though, it's probably about how Kobo's personality as a indonesian equivalent of kusogaki makes her a perfect collab partner for the indo fleshtubers around, especially with Kobo's vast knowledge of how indo internet culture, trends and memes unlike most of them ID vtubers around.
 
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According to Shiina, Airi is the oldest of the group and in her early 30's. Erina (black hair tiger-mommy with the deep/soft voice is the youngest). She is very comfy but as you mentioned a bit of a normie. She seems to be extremely professional in a traditional sense so she wont curse and I doubt she will ever stream drunk. She is fairly decent at games, an amazing singer. If I would compare her to a Hololive talent I would probably say she is Sora.
Still though, introducing a normie into the menhera sad girl company is weird.
 
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I skipped a day and whoa plenty o post.

Regarding Ayame, I'm sure that it's the docchi-docchi song that made her popular, and after that, when she gets 3D model and thus appearing on HoloGra that made her into like, the face most hololive fans (and even the basic weebs who didnt dip their toe into the vtuber hole except of their hentais) would recognize aside of other notable ones in HoloJP. Still have no clue why she got the hate though, but the whole hiatuses do not help her one bit. Though since i'm not a nakirigumi and I only know holos from the gen that has Botan, I might be wrong with all of these.

Also, ever since that collab with one of them ex-ID Niji dude Taka Radjiman, I started to appreciate Tenma. She cute. Pippa is also growing on me too, which is also worrying.
She is also the face of the Ochame Kinou 24 talent song because they never created a thumbnail

That sounds pretty advanced. The pager I had as a kid could only receive numbers AFAIK. I think you'd normally just get paged a phone number and were expected to find a phone to call them up, but in my family we had a code system where digits represented different things, like 555 could mean "come home ASAP", etc. Phones were already a thing at this point, but my mom didn't trust me with one because I was too young, so she gave me a pager instead. They were small and built like tanks.

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Just some thoughts on the whole thing with Henry. I do think he has already won, in a weird sense - although I don't think he realizes it himself. Pippa knows him now. He's already in her head, floating at the surface of her consciousness. She's talking about him and making references about him unsolicited, replies to him on stream and on Twitter, etc. She'll remember him for a long time, no matter what happens. Through his astounding level of autism he has made an impact on her that most other fans can only dream of having on their oshi. What more could you possibly want?
They evolved from simple numbers to being able to send a small line of text.
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New Airi sample dropped
I don't really like/watch ILuna but that song is pretty fun. She's a really good singer not sure why she doesn't do more Karaoke (although Susan might not like that).

Is it just me or Lui is esentially living at holo HQ? she is pretty much on all 3D live stuff, mostly guest appearances. A complete opposite of Iroha who just does her own stuff. Koyori seems to collab a lot and for some reason, wagahai dropped off the radar a bit. Chloe...no clue, I don't check her that often.
Guessing she just lives close to the studio. I would do the same if I could to be honest.

Still though, introducing a normie into the menhera sad girl company is weird.
Airi was the last one to join I think because Shiina recommended her. Fishman probably read her KR Idol and was impressed. Fishman is basically depressed Yagoo meme in that he wants to have some sort of idol company yet the first-gen talents are all degenerates (except Michiru and Nasa).
 
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Petra's definitely lost some of the cuteness factor. I'm not really seeing the battle angle, but the outfit itself is gorgeous. Minus the beret that is, fuck the French. I'm also a bit disappointed with the hair, since it's pretty much the same style just longer. She also doesn't have the little penguin hair knot anymore :(. The anchor earring is a very cute touch. Overall, it's my least favorite of the three, but it's not bad at all.

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Selen's outfit I absolutely adore for the sheer fact that it might stop people from calling her a tomboy. That word continues to lose its meaning. I mean, come on, she literally did a bento making stream, her feminine prowess is unparalleled in NijiEN. Sorry for the spergout.
I absolutely love the military motifs, the coat is amazing. The hair brings some variation, which is always welcome, and really rounds out the much more femme look of this outfit. Overall, really good, but someone else did it better.

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Rosemi truly earned the sama honorific with this one. The overall vibe is somewhat similar to Selen's outfit, but Rosemi has a better hat AND a cane AND twintails. Sorry dragoons, Rosemi-sama takes this one. At least in my book. Also, I really love the straight bangs. They look so fucking cute and really fit that smug face.
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Bae mindbreaking Vesper with glitter butts was the highlight of the stream for me. Grandpire sounded genuinely offended.

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Bae: I've never done this before, I've never had a glitter butt."
Grandpa: "This doesn't change my opinion of you."
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This is actually the first time I've seen a Vesper clip and...is the lisp supposed to be some sort of vampire RP or is he actually part of the 'lithp gang'? This guy could give Pippa a good run for her money. Of course, he is no challenge for Uruka and her cardboard thtand.

 
I don't really like/watch ILuna but that song is pretty fun. She's a really good singer not sure why she doesn't do more Karaoke (although Susan might not like that).
The original ILuna version's a great song but has horrible production, some of the lines absolutely needed second takes (and probably better mics) but they decided to just attempt fixing it in post instead so the excessive vocal processing seems to come in and out arbitrarily. It kinda reminds me of the Myth Country Roads cover, just without the clashing harmonies.

I'd love to hear a full cover of it from Airi, she has the right energy for the song in that short, and also has the control over her voice to make it work.
 
Still though, introducing a normie into the menhera sad girl company is weird.
There is a market for a normie like Airi, she has appeal because she is genuinely different from the preexisting talents, not everyone likes unbridled menhera. She doesn't seem to have the family issues common to a lot of the others, but she does have some sad girl moments due to her roommates day to day work environment and has a lot of untapped talent IMHO.

Airi was the last one to join I think because Shiina recommended her. Fishman probably read her KR Idol and was impressed. Fishman is basically depressed Yagoo meme in that he wants to have some sort of idol company yet the first-gen talents are all degenerates (except Michiru and Nasa).

For the most part Fishman was aiming for demographics/markets that PC had not previously tapped into with Gen1 and was able to be much more choosy with whom he hired talents for Gen2. They are much more inline with main stream idols/vtubers. Most of them have some singing ability, can draw ability and have strong zatsudan skill. The ones that had no previous streaming experience like Erina and Airi are quickly adapting to it, and are picking up the tard wrangling skill needed to by a streamer to cultivate a personal follwing with a comfortable chat environment for themselves.
 
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