Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

[Quatro]

The existence of decent trans people does not validate transgenderism. Even if all the anti-social behaviors were wiped away transgenderism would still be a self destructive disorder. When people say things like "well she was always nice to me, so I'm fine with pretending she's a woman" they're trying to stake out middle ground where they can push back against transgenderism ("surely if a crazy tranny came along I'd put my foot down!") without getting called a bigot. But the push for transgenderism is top down, and not interested in hearing dissenting opinions. It's not an organic movement where you can argue in good faith. The bargain you made in your head to just go along with the "normal" trannies won't be respected, if The Powers That Be can find some way to punish you, they will, no matter how many Aunt TiMs you can point to. Also I don't buy that you guys actually like these "good ones" trannies. Why would you go along with the harmful delusions of someone you like? That isn't compassion, it's cowardice.

There's another popular delusion, that it's all just an accident and that The Powers That Be will self correct and stop supporting the crazy trannies. But transgenderism is pushed because of its anti-social nature, not despite it. Transgenderism is pushed for a few reasons: 1) as humiliation propaganda, to show that TPTB can make you grovel to farces, 2) to normalize sexualizing children as many have pointed out. 3) because trannies are ideal consumers, even more so than gays, whom they are like in sterility and self-obsession, but surpass in isolation: the nympho gay lifestyle created natural social groups that could be used to form independent power bases, whereas trannies "socialize" mostly in controlled social media and are more interested in crossdressing and masturbation than sex. And 4) anti-social behavior destroys public life which pushes to people to consumption to fill the void, and again disrupts the formation of rival power bases.

 

[SwanSwanson]

What a world we live in where thinking cutting off healthy body parts is bad is consdered the edgy position.

Honestly this entire thread is absurd. "Of people with healthy bodies that chose to ruin them by poisnoning them with hormones and mutilating them by cutting their genitals off, which ones do you think are normal and cool and sane?"

The inmates have taken over the asylum to the point where a lot of people think radical self mutilation is normal and sane as long as the person in question isn't a vocal twitter user.

You'd be shocked at how willing the average person is willing to self delude in order to fit in.

There have been experiments done on this in the past, for example, they got a group of people, one was the subject and everyone else were actors. The actors would drink a substance which was supposedly a special chemical(its not a chemical it was water) and would fake all sorts of symptoms like a headache. When it got to the real test subject that test subject would fake symptoms too.

There was this other experiment done where three people were in the elevator and two were actors and one was the subject. Normally people face the door of the elevator but these actors faced the back wall, slowly but surely the real elevator attendant faced the back wall with them.

What I'm trying to explain is people self delude and believe falsehoods, so yeah, with the way things are now not believing in trannies is a somewhat edgy position.

 

[Android raptor]

I've said before but it's important to remember most trans people in the big scheme of things are relatively normal people without a notable internet presence. Overly online troons and fakebois make so much noise because they're overly online, and otherwise don't have actual serious responsibilities or problems (beyond those they created themselves anyway).

Most trans people are too busy doing normie-ass shit like going to work, paying bills, etc, to give a fuck about most of the shit troons never shut up about.

Also, as awful as people like keffles and Yaniv are, never forget there's also people like the trans woman who was shot and killed attempting to stop a mass shooting at a mall she was working as a security guard at. Even most wokie coverage of that story tried to paint it as another transphobic murder instead of talking about the actual story (a person who happened to be trans making the ultimate sacrifice to save others, and whose heroic actions should be acknowledged).

 

[Eydallur]

Even if all the anti-social behaviors were wiped away transgenderism would still be a self destructive disorder.

Which is exactly why it is such a poor decision to ever entertain the idea there could even be a valid reason for transitioning and why you are at best a naive idiot if you have a tolerant attitude to such degeneracy.

 

[Mega Black]

I met one at the library once who was very nice. We talked about Baldur's Gate for like twenty minutes then I never saw her again. There are apparently some trannies out there that can conduct themselves with a modicum of social grace, but it seems like they're extremely rare.

 

[ZeeMarin]

I work in show biz and know a MTF producer who agrees about the evils of transing kids but can’t share these thoughts without destroying any chance of a career.

 

[The Line]

Somehow, a lot of drag queens manage to pass better than any actual troon I've seen. No clue why, but I've seen drag queens that would 100% pass as female if you didn't know better.

Have you heard drag queens talk? Have you encountered a drag queen IRL? Are you incapable of the most basic sex-recognition, which you as a human are supposed to have hardwired?

I am convinced that OP is severely retarded. I have never heard even the average tranny claim that drag queens usually "pass", as their flamboyant and obvious male features are intrinsic to the drag style.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

We talked about Baldur's Gate for like twenty minutes

Nice

Either way, trannies have mental illnesses and they either are loud about it or are quietly measuring the height to the rafters. None of them pass, maybe in a few special angles they can trick you but once you see them in the wild the illusion is shattered. They walk like men, have boxy shoulders, or have a five o'clock shadow at lunchtime. The fake dude trannies look like doughy eunuchs with odd haircuts. No one is passing. People just don't feel the need to point and wave pitchforks at what clearly are monsters.

 

[Gramh]

Bailey Jay always seemed cool to me.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

Bailey Jay always seemed cool to me.

Don't search on here for more recent photos.

 

[Gramh]

Don't search on here for more recent photos.

Part of me now wants to do the thing you told me not to do. Well played.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

probably the closest example to one i can think of with some e-celeb status is @sophnar0747 but i don't know how long that will last either.

Her recent streams are pretty chill and she's made a lot of videos articulating a lot of of the issues I have with modern LGBT activism a lot better than I could. Looking forward to the Trans Activists Are Their Own Worst Enemies 3 considering how well the old video has aged (although it looks like the first one is missing.)

Mostly agree with the rest of the thread: most trans people don't turn themselves into spectacles online and those are the good ones who just want to live their lives. Just as there's plenty of autistic people who never turn into Chris Chan and just want to chill with their hyper focused interests.

 

[randomfarmer]

2022 trans is crossdresser with severe mental illness and access to other mentally ill.

CD, transvestites and femme men are all much braver as they are less likely to be batshit insane.

Also, "trans" now means anyone who wants to be. By dropping any real definition of what is and isn't they are including many non trans folk but ignoring people who are actually transitioning or have transitioned because they have a few differing opinions. So I guess a good trans may not be trans at all...

 

[MarvelousMess]

Nice

Either way, trannies have mental illnesses and they either are loud about it or are quietly measuring the height to the rafters. None of them pass, maybe in a few special angles they can trick you but once you see them in the wild the illusion is shattered. They walk like men, have boxy shoulders, or have a five o'clock shadow at lunchtime. The fake dude trannies look like doughy eunuchs with odd haircuts. No one is passing. People just don't feel the need to point and wave pitchforks at what clearly are monsters.

What if a baby was born born a hermaphrodite and the parents needs to choose a sex. Suppose those parents chose wrong though and the baby was actually mentally more of the opposite. Do you think that still would make them mentally I’ll for feeling opposite of what their parents chose? Just curious.

 

[Theophilus Thistler]

Maybe I’ll post here now in this very uncertain future, I’ve got one TiM in my life that I have time for and like running into him at the pub. I met this TiM when he moved into one of my mates places before he started the Troon, he was in his very early 20s and we were a few years older, he was a complete NEET, totally depressed, fat and hiding in his room 24/7, not a happy guy. About 3 years ago now he started wearing dresses and asking to be called by a distinctly female name but never commenced HRT (this might be the ticket right there) - since then he’s gotten a friend group of the goth local lesbians, lost heaps of weight, got a job he likes, leaves the house etc basically a much more happier functioning human. We avoid talking about the whole trans thing with each other, but I use female pronouns for him (they/them as some kind of scapegoat is too annoying for me to even say out loud) but I hope when he gets a bit older he just embraces his GNC ways and hopefully stays away from the “titty skittles” that will surely make him batshit maybe but so far so good.

In contrast there’s this female nb gender special woman who cakes on layers of make up to compensate for her premature ageing and is just your typical cluster B nightmare girl in every way who needs to inset how she’s trans and non binary in every conversation (and yes, I’ve only ever seen her date men) that I try to avoid like the plague (but with out causing drama) - last night she caught me out though, I bumped into her as she was gaslighting some dude about how he was not heterosexual because he found her attractive (my guess knowing her the convo before I rocked up went something like- her:”haha you are queer” him”no I’m straight” her”do you find me attractive???” Him”uh sure” her”hah! Well I am not a woman!! How can you be straight now??”). She then cornered me into a narc fuelled convo (contest I guess, I’m a recovering TiF - shocker - and I even permanently shot myself in the foot with pumping my body with steroids for years so even though I’ve long since stopped with that shit, there’s permanent changes to my voice and body that makes me a bloody lightbulb to these bloody Troon flies, I can’t escape them! I truely despise it!) and started spouting all this goofy shit to me like how me and her were only one of four TiFs in this town I guess? (Like half a million people live in this district, I’ll let you figure out the validity in her estimations there) I told her I’m just sweet with being a woman now which caused her to dramatically bash the wall beside us with her palms (I noticed her tacky af sparkly 2 inch fake nails then) and scream “witch!!!”, which I thought was pretty funny, rest of the convo was just typical cluster B narc insanity and not letting me getting a word in until I finally managed to escape into the night.

Tl;dr I keep coming across these people IRL, some aren’t pests at all really, others are just as bad as the shit you see here except it’s infinitely worse cuz you can smell them and they’ll try to take a drag of your durry and gossip about you for being a horrible traitor to their cause (and they get nasty)

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Gotta love how this thread is instantly flooded with dipshits posting the same "HAHA NO TRANNIES ARE SANE xD" over and over again.
Really doing your part to prove that Kiwifarms isn't a trannymania bashing site and that anyone is accepted here, aren't you, cocksuckers?

The thing is, saying something like, "There is no such thing as a sane transgender person," is not inherently hateful. It is not. It's a statement of fact. Sure, plenty of us spout some pretty edgy shit about transgenders in general, but that does not invalidate the fact that transgenderism is inherently disordered, and it should be discouraged just as heavily as behaviors like anorexia or bulimia. It's also not hateful to point out that transgenderism itself is dehumanizing.

It's not hateful to point out the antisocial behavior of most transgender people, and it's not hateful to point out the fact that even "sane" transgender people does not redeem the concept that we should play pretend with people who are convinced, with every fibre of their being, that they are something that they are not, and will never become. That permanently damaging your body, your ability to reproduce, and your ability to have normal, healthy sexual relationships with others, is ever a good option. Hell, it shouldn't even be a last resort.

If anything, invalidating transgenderism is actually the compassionate thing to do. Make it illegal to change your legal documents to reflect your gender identity rather than your biological sex. Make it illegal for doctors to attempt to medically "transition" you through chemical or surgical means. Make it easier for your loved ones to have you committed if you refuse to stop playing pretend as the opposite sex, and ESPECIALLY if you lash out at others who refuse to play along.

Aside from the fact that it's easy to hate these people for the horrible, awful things they do to those closest to them, and to society at large, taking such a stance doesn't make you a bad person. If anything, it makes you a kind, compassionate person who cares for the well being of others.

The fact that some transgenders can feign sanity does not change the fact that transgenderism is an inherently self-destructive delusion that also comes with anti-social and narcissistic behaviors as biproducts.

What if a baby was born born a hermaphrodite and the parents needs to choose a sex. Suppose those parents chose wrong though and the baby was actually mentally more of the opposite. Do you think that still would make them mentally I’ll for feeling opposite of what their parents chose? Just curious.

All intersex people are male or female.

Get back to me when a person is born who can produce both eggs or sperm, or even a sperg cell.

 

[Android raptor]

Tl;dr I keep coming across these people IRL, some aren’t pests at all really, others are just as bad as the shit you see here except it’s infinitely worse cuz you can smell them and they’ll try to take a drag of your durry and gossip about you for being a horrible traitor to their cause (and they get nasty)

The latter are almost always middle+ suburban kids I feel like. Privileged enough thanks to mommy and daddy that they can waste all their time on stupid bullshit.

Trans people are like any other group of people. Some are bad, some are good, and everything in between. It's just that unfortunately, the privileged brats are loud af.

 

[FaXmachine]

I don't want to think they are all bad and maybe as people have said there are some of them just living normie lives and not harming anyone. The problem is by nature its mental illness that really requires treatment, at best and I mean at best its people who have been abused and rationalise it by changing their bodies to fit some stereotype just to feel some relief, and I do truly feel sorry for those people. It must be so crushing being them regardless of what they do. But how common are they?

Sadly these people to me are hypothetical, the only ones that have representation to me are the Yaniv's and Keffals of the movement....

 

[Nuns with guns]

You know the saying, “The only good communist is a dead one”? There's a similar logic here. Though I'm more open-minded and would say the only good trannies are detransitioners (however if you've read tranny threads here, they're still usually batshit insane).

 

[WULULULULU]

I think those people just know it's a fetish and sex thing and no part of it involves imposing themselves on other people.

I like you Null but this is slowly becoming false as more of the trans shit is starting to leak via Facebook and Tiktok and most SEA monkeys are social-media oriented. Its only a matter of time before they breed the worst of the worst.