Off-Topic "The Good Ones" - For the 1% of trannies that pass and/or aren't otherwise fucking insane

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Ngl I watched sphere hunters Resident Evil evil videos for years and had no idea she was trans. She's probably the only tranny I'll use female pronouns to refer to and even then it's more because I had no idea and I'm so used to calling her a her. The only reason I even found out she was not only trans but also an ex porncow was someone randomly brought it up in the resident evil thread.
 
I know two normal TIMs in real life. They're fine and I'm happy to use their pronouns and piss next to them in the women's restroom*. (though neither of them really pass, they do at least make an effort). Neither of them are very online people and are as alarmed by the whole ROGD craze as most normies.

Online troons are a different matter. There are a few good ones but the majority are perverts of some description.

*I feel safe with them as I know them and I'm aware they no longer have dicks. I wouldn't expect any other women to be fine with them in the bathroom.
 
What if a baby was born born a hermaphrodite and the parents needs to choose a sex. Suppose those parents chose wrong though and the baby was actually mentally more of the opposite. Do you think that still would make them mentally I’ll for feeling opposite of what their parents chose? Just curious.

All joking aside, I think they basically have a birth defect that contributes to mental issues. They have found evidence that suggests they have traits of the other sex due to abnormal pregnancies. So I don’t hold it against them for being fucked up more than anyone else with issues from birth. And if they didn’t start screeching that I play along with their delusions and attempting to get the government to make me, I really wouldn’t care about them one way or another.

So the basic bitch ‘what about this super rare scenario?’ question really don’t matter. I see them just like a skelly, they have a mental illness and I won’t play along with them. The context really doesn’t matter — it doesn’t justify the illness
 
I used to know a "Good" one that was a FTM, one of the first genuinely trans people I'd ever heard of in my life. They were intelligent, caring, and really didn't do any crazy shit. This was also earlier on and they were still a young adult at the time so I have no idea how fucking insane they are now.

I'm not sure I'd be able to stomach them since I'm certain that they're far more vocal about it now that it's the hot ticket social item. If they're even alive or still wishing to be a man.
 
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I think the definition of "good" trannies can be taken way too broadly, there's plenty of troons that can say based shit but they do it because either believe it or are actual pickme's or that they can see that the majority of "trans activists" are fucking insane, power hungry idiots. And just want to be left alone with their lives.

Either way whatever a person does with its life is of no concern to me.
 
All joking aside, I think they basically have a birth defect that contributes to mental issues. They have found evidence that suggests they have traits of the other sex due to abnormal pregnancies. So I don’t hold it against them for being fucked up more than anyone else with issues from birth. And if they didn’t start screeching that I play along with their delusions and attempting to get the government to make me, I really wouldn’t care about them one way or another.

So the basic bitch ‘what about this super rare scenario?’ question really don’t matter. I see them just like a skelly, they have a mental illness and I won’t play along with them. The context really doesn’t matter — it doesn’t justify the illness
According to studies trannies have highly increased rates of narcissistic personality disorder, depression, BPD, Bipolar disorder, drug addiction and everything else.
Mo healthy person will wake up one day and just troon out. And that's the problem with the tranny cult, getting the teetus/weenus deletus won't fix any of the underlying conditions.

Most of these people need intensive therapy or a place in mental institutions. But selling hormones, drugs and other "cures" is way more profitable and in.
 
The only ones I feel slight sympathy for are the HSTS in very conservative towns or third world countries who has trooned out in order to find an easier scapegoat, and realizes that troon agenda is not something to push. I have a gay friend who trooned out, was never molested, though lived in a third world country where it was illegal to be gay, so he trooned out, and it became much more easier for him.
 
I don't want to think they are all bad and maybe as people have said there are some of them just living normie lives and not harming anyone. The problem is by nature its mental illness that really requires treatment
IIRC Gender Dysphoria is in the DSM, but its not technically a mental illness. It's in the same category as like, epilepsy I think (physical brainmeat condition or w/e).

The point of transition is to reduce dysphoria. If you don't actually have dysphoria, transitioning will give it to you. That's why tucutes/trenders/etc who think you don't have to have dysphoria to be trans are fucking retards no one should listen to. It would be like taking lithium (a powerful drug that can do permanent organ damage) without actually being bipolar.

Unfortunately there's currently no definitive medical test to tell if it's actually Gender Dysphoria vs. something else, so you need to rule all the other shit out all best as possibly before going ahead with serious medical treatment like HRT/surgery. That's not what's happening in some places i.e. Tavistock, and that's why shit like the Keira Bell legal case are about to become a common thing imo.

See also: every kid in the 90s who had trouble sitting still for 8+ hours being called ADHD and put on legal meth.
According to studies trannies have highly increased rates of narcissistic personality disorder, depression, BPD, Bipolar disorder, drug addiction and everything else.
Same is true for autists and any other group of people frequently treated like shit for existing.
*I feel safe with them as I know them and I'm aware they no longer have dicks. I wouldn't expect any other women to be fine with them in the bathroom.
Personally I'm OK with sharing a restroom with anyone that's not a sex pest. I wouldn't want to be in a public restroom with Lena Dunham any more than I'd want to be in one with Yaniv.
 
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Why are a majority of the sane ones FtM?

Men are assertive, domineering and confrontational by nature. To varying degrees sure but certainly far more than women. Then add to that how online trans communities are a breeding ground for Cluster B Personality Disorders and endless self-entitlement and you have the inevitable results.
I guess since we're speculating we can think of this another way, men are taught from a young age to be self-disciplined and to have self control. Trannies are taught to "be their true self" which for men means and I hate to use the word... succumbing to toxic masculine behavior. It's why "It's Ma'am!" or "you'll be going home in an ambulance" happen because men are naturally aggressive. Men like confrontation so you get trannies that are all in people faces like "what you gonna do about it".
 
Ngl I watched sphere hunters Resident Evil evil videos for years and had no idea she was trans. She's probably the only tranny I'll use female pronouns to refer to and even then it's more because I had no idea and I'm so used to calling her a her. The only reason I even found out she was not only trans but also an ex porncow was someone randomly brought it up in the resident evil thread.
There's quite a few trans gamers I've come across who really just stick to the games stuff and almost never mention the troon stuff. They might be complete perverts too but they keep it to themselves and don't sperg about troon shit all over Twitter and every other website constantly. I doubt many of them show up here very much.
 
Ngl I watched sphere hunters Resident Evil evil videos for years and had no idea she was trans. She's probably the only tranny I'll use female pronouns to refer to and even then it's more because I had no idea and I'm so used to calling her a her. The only reason I even found out she was not only trans but also an ex porncow was someone randomly brought it up in the resident evil thread.
She also fucked Anthony Charia Cumia and had the cry wank stream [lost media]
 
I think, within the parameters of their mental illness, there can be relatively passing and/or relatively reasonable trannies. But I'd bet big the numbers of them who also have a decent social media presence could be counted on one hand.

I quite like Sophia Narwitz, but I have no idea if she passes, and a lot of that is because she aggravates all the right people. There are trannies who pass - MtFs are exceedingly rare, though can be helped if they're already small and delicate-featured like Asians. FtMs are more likely to pass simply if there's facial hair, but even then a lot of them it just means you need to take a bit of a longer look - or see their height - before picking it. But the spy agencies know that it's far easier to make a woman look like a convincing man than vice versa, mostly because it's far easier to add stuff than take it away.

Tl;dr: there are less offensive troons, but you won't hear about them because they're not on social media saying they are a troon. Every troon with a trans flag in their profiles aren't about being the opposite gender, they each to be special.
 
Why are a majority of the sane ones FtM? You just don't see it anywhere else, even the MtFs that are normal by Kiwi standards that I've met are more out there than a sane FtM.
There's just something about them that makes them tick easier than any other person I guess.

Men (and by extension, trans"women") tend to be a lot more assertive and dangerous, whereas TiF are pushovers. Gay men have a much easier time telling them to fuck off than lesbians do when dealing with TiMs, for one thing.

Other than that, they're both equally degenerate and disgusting. Troon identifying females are every bit as predatory (towards children, mainly) as their male counterparts, and just as likely to have auto-androphilic tendencies as the men do with autogynephilia.

In other words, they are by no means "saner" than the TiMs. They're simply unable to get away with the same bullshit that they do, and unable to assert dominance over others in the same way they do.
 
I knew a couple when I was in college. One, I thought she looked kinda masculine, but I went to school with a girl who had an intersex condition (and was definitely male, despite them trying to raise him female), so I just assumed she was another of those. She got a bit more strident with the tranny stuff online in the years after we finished college, and she’s cropped up on the periphery of a few tranny threads on here before. So, 80% batshit insane?

The other was a very sweet, quiet and confused gay guy who came from a background where that was absolutely not accepted. I guess he thought trooning out was the answer. No idea what happened to him, but if the current crop of trans rights shit had been around ten years or so ago, I think he’d never have trooned in his life. I suspect he’s one of the sane detransitioners by now. At least I hope so.

I used to come into contact with a lot of LGBTQWTFBBQs as part of work, and the Ts were, to the last mincing Dave in a dress, narcissistic perverts who didn’t give a shit about anyone but themselves. FtMs included.

There are almost no ‘good ones’. The guys troon out and the coom totally overtakes them, the women just do it to be ‘not like other girls’. There’s nothing sane about a group of people who insist that you play along with their sexual fantasies or they’ll ruin your life.
 
Why are a majority of the sane ones FtM? You just don't see it anywhere else, even the MtFs that are normal by Kiwi standards that I've met are more out there than a sane FtM.
There's just something about them that makes them tick easier than any other person I guess.

a lot of people grow up in families and cultures where it sucks to be a woman. wishing to have been born a boy is totally normal in those places.

you put a misogynist culture and a butch woman together and you get a totally sane person who wants to be a man.
 
I know one FTM who is relatively sane and didn’t realize he was trans until he told me. He’s 6”+ and has a regular dude voice; I don’t like troons but it still feels weird to “misgender” him. I’ve met him IRL so it’s not a case of flattering photo angles, just lucked out into not being a high-pitched womanlet I guess. Cool guy, we play games together sometimes.

I do think it’s easier to find more normal TIFs than hons, MTFreaks all seem to be unable to stop talking about how trans they are and making it everyone else’s problem.
 
I think a lot of the difference between "there are ok normal trans people" and "they're all nuts" is generational

I've known a bunch of trans people who weren't any crazier than anybody else I knew; but I'm gen x and back in the day if you were a weirdo you need to have your shit together or your shit would get kicked in.

you *especially* needed to have your social shit together. party crews are just as dysfunctional as regular families but regular families keep people alive and kickin just like party crews help you get apartments and jobs.

That's why someone like Joe Lavery trooned out this century; back when he was young and not getting invited to parties there's no way someone like that would have *dared;" because he's a uncontrolled toxic narcissist he wouldn't have had the social support that regular party people narcissists have.

I give this a lot of thought when I'm around gnc young people; they aren't toughskinned, they don't know they need to have each other's backs, they think they can be uwu "introverts" and the establishment is always going to take care of them against the big scary bigots they only see on the internet.

they don't know what it's like to have big scary bigots actually coming at you, old school trans people do.
 
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