Disaster Under Pressure, Security Firm Cloudflare drops Kiwi Farms Website - Noted LoTT doxer Taylor Lorenz weigh ins

SAN FRANCISCO — Reversing course under growing public pressure, major tech security company Cloudflare announced Saturday that it will stop protecting the Kiwi Farms website, best known as a place for stalkers to organize hacks, online campaigns and real-world harassment.
Cloudfare chief executive Matthew Prince, who this past week published a lengthy blog post justifying the company’s services defending Kiwi Farms, told The Washington Post he changed his mind not because of the pressure but a surge in credible violent threats stemming from the site.
“As Kiwi Farms has felt more threatened, they have reacted by being more threatening,” Prince said. “We think there is an imminent danger, and the pace at which law enforcement is able to respond to those threats we don’t think is fast enough to keep up.”
Prince said contributors to the forum were posting home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.
Kiwi Farms launched in 2013 and quickly grew into a popular internet forum for online harassment campaigns. At least three suicides have been tied to harassment stemming from the Kiwi Farms community, and many on the forum consider their goal to drive their targets to suicide. Members of the LGBTQ community and women are frequent targets.
Cloudflare has faced broad backlash in the past week as a campaign for it to drop the service gained steam and widened to pressure paying customers to drop Cloudflare if it held firm.
Two weeks ago, Prince said the company stopped selling Kiwi Farms a $20 per month service to customize error messages shown to web users when its pages wouldn’t load. On Saturday, it withdrew the remaining free services, which fend off denial-of-service attacks and speed content delivery by making copies of the site in many locations.
Clara Sorrenti, a trans Canadian Twitch streamer known online as Keffals, launched the #DropKiwiFarms campaign after being targeted by Kiwi Farms posters for over half a year.
Forum users had repeatedly doxed Sorrenti and her family, posting addresses and more, and last month they called in false crime reports to draw police to her home. Sorrenti fled to Northern Ireland late last month, and within 48 hours users of the forum had pinpointed her location and she began receiving threats.
On Saturday, she spoke with The Post just minutes after police had arrived at her residence after another swatting attempt.
“There are countless people suffering because of this website,” Sorrenti said. “Kiwi Farms isn’t about free speech, it’s about hate speech. The majority of the content on the site is threads used for targeted harassment against political targets.”
Sorrenti’s campaign against Cloudflare went viral in the past several days, with organizations and influencers joining in the call to ban Kiwi Farms from Cloudflare’s service. The Anti-Defamation League called Kiwi Farms an “extremist-friendly forum that has been the breeding ground for countless harassment campaigns.”
In the interview, Prince said he was uncomfortable dropping Kiwi Farms despite its content and would have preferred a court order.
But he said it was an easier call than his previous decisions to drop neo-Nazi site the Daily Stormer and the 8chan website because those two were not hotbeds for specific violent plots.
Lorenz reported from Los Angeles.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
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There's very few things that really boil my blood. But pure unadulterated hypocrisy is one of them. What was that cloudfare? You just told us you didn't believe you had a right to the power to drop websites based on moral reasons? And only a couple of days later drop a website for vague """legal""" reasons that are totally unspecified and seem mainly made up?

With all my heart cloudfare, I hope that the wrath of God comes down upon your company and leaves every last organism in your office in abject ruin and despair. Trying to play both sides like this should only be met with utter disgust from any rational human.

The only thing I hope now is that they were sloppy enough that Null has some kind of way to take a cut of their crocodile tear paychecks.
 
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To the Cuckflare Cuck Executive Officer: you are pathetic. You will lose your company and career over this. And not even trannies will fuck you.
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So all you have to do to get a website blocked is make an account and fedpost? This reminds me of people on Reddit posting illegal shit to get subreddits banned. I'm sure this policy doesn't apply to large websites but only smaller communities. It seems like a copout by Cloudflare to me, I mean they know everyone is aligned against the website so why wouldn't they be doing gayops to make it look bad? By taking the bait they have emboldened criminals to make threads against people's lives to get things they don't like blocked. It's not enough to have explicit rules against all of these things and actively enforce it, instead you have to pre-emptively moderate posts before they're seen to prevent a drive-by post and screenshot/archive. Two days ago it was "we won't take anyone down without legal intervention and we won't ever repeat 8chan/Daily Stormer" and now it's a complete 180. How can section 230 survive when no one wants to honor the meaning behind it? I feel bad that I actually invested in their stock after the initial response.
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not to doom post too hard, but i would be horrible precedent if these twitter troons got all those sites to start taking down content. i mean google search, that's a given, wont be a problem. but if they manage to get wayback machine to remove all the stuff we've posted then that would just open the door to basically everything conceivable being taken down.
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The only viable option for the future is for Josh to have his own archive website, but that just leads to credibility issues because it wouldn't be a neutral third party. Also, at a certain point it becomes "build your own Internet."
 
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No, but Keffals would love that, wouldn't she?
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I don't have much to contribute but it's nice to see you all still here on Vladimir Farms. Cloudflare are a bunch of weasel hypocrits who deserve get fucked. The world should build a giant oven around ADL headquarters (it would be easy if we all just brought one brick). Oh and go dilate with dynamite Lucas.
 
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Hypocrisy is the modus operandi of Cloudflare and Matthew Prince.

https://archive.ph/zBNvl - Matthew Prince says he's "determined to never take down a site like Daily Stormer again."
https://archive.ph/jemgG - Matthew Prince feels torn dropping 8chan (Kiwifarms thread)

Compared to those two sites, I'm impressed he had to point to a deleted death threat as an "Imminent and emergency threat to human life" instead of his usual whining about "lawlessness" or getting butthurt over Daily Stormer saying Cloudflare supports them after Unite the Right in CVille. The latter is the real reason all three sites were removed, since Matthew Prince can't stand all the negative press and whining he gets from journoscum about hosting controversial sites.
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So all you have to do to get a website blocked is make an account and fedpost? This reminds me of people on Reddit posting illegal shit to get subreddits banned. I'm sure this policy doesn't apply to large websites but only smaller communities. It seems like a copout by Cloudflare to me, I mean they know everyone is aligned against the website so why wouldn't they be doing gayops to make it look bad? By taking the bait they have emboldened criminals to make threads against people's lives to get things they don't like blocked. It's not enough to have explicit rules against all of these things and actively enforce it, instead you have to pre-emptively moderate posts before they're seen to prevent a drive-by post and screenshot/archive. Two days ago it was "we won't take anyone down without legal intervention and we won't ever repeat 8chan/Daily Stormer" and now it's a complete 180. How can section 230 survive when no one wants to honor the meaning behind it? I feel bad that I actually invested in their stock after the initial response.
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Funny thing is that's essentially the same thing as swatting.
 
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Waiting for Lucas to drop new merch in the form of a glow-in-the-dark dilator in the shape of the director of the CIA, so his fellow gynos can dilate while grooming children in their basement at 3 am.

Lucas I hope you know this site will be around longer than most of your fellow gyno groomers. It'll still be here when most of your friends become a statistic. Cope, seethe and dilate.
 
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Its hilarious watching the fucking shitbags on Twitter crowing and cheering this on, as if its done anything but create a minor inconvenience. And all those dumbfucks have done, especially the checkmark asswipes, is paint a bulls-eye on their foreheads for if/when the pendulum swings back the other way and/or the outrage mob comes for them.

As Prince and Cloudflare, you reap what you sow. Anyone wanna take odds on him being out in as little as the next few days?
 
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Jones McCann said:
So all you have to do to get a website blocked is make an account and fedpost? This reminds me of people on Reddit posting illegal shit to get subreddits banned. I'm sure this policy doesn't apply to large websites but only smaller communities. It seems like a copout by Cloudflare to me, I mean they know everyone is aligned against the website so why wouldn't they be doing gayops to make it look bad? By taking the bait they have emboldened criminals to make threads against people's lives to get things they don't like blocked. It's not enough to have explicit rules against all of these things and actively enforce it, instead you have to pre-emptively moderate posts before they're seen to prevent a drive-by post and screenshot/archive. Two days ago it was "we won't take anyone down without legal intervention and we won't ever repeat 8chan/Daily Stormer" and now it's a complete 180. How can section 230 survive when no one wants to honor the meaning behind it? I feel bad that I actually invested in their stock after the initial response.

The only viable option for the future is for Josh to have his own archive website, but that just leads to credibility issues because it wouldn't be a neutral third party. Also, at a certain point it becomes "build your own Internet."
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Yea, it does become that at a certain point, but I think we need to do it. I wish I knew more about it, I just have a shitty personal .com website that I figured out with e mail., but if we really want to be free of all this bs, we are going to have to go ground up.
 
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