Poa.st / Chudbuds.lol General Discussion Thread - !! Poa.st and Bae.st have been compromised, all direct messages have been leaked. !!

[Distinguished Toastmaster]

If all you folks have such a huge problem, why not start your own instance?

I've been on post for a few months, the only shit i've seen is anime girl's with big tits. Now i don't like anime in general, but it's the guy's site he can run it like he wants. I don't even really know what folks consider lolicon, i assume it's little kids, but i don't watch any sort of anime or know any of the characters. If i seen something that looked like cp, i'd log out and find another instance, I haven't so i won't.

I have differences with null as well, but I use his site and i keep my fat fuckign mouth shut.

I do have a huge problem with it, after daddy gym made an account grifters started advertising poa.st as the "better than twitter" twitter alternative. Some of the grifters like RedPillGangTV and Cog went on stream told their followers that Ralph is wrong and that there is no pedophilia going on poast which is false.

Poast is clearly not better than twitter if you start looking into it:
-Graf admitted that he spies on users who might be "Antifa" based on their search history.
-Giving users a false sense of security by claiming that IPs are obfuscated yet the moderation team has deobfuscated the IPs of the "antifa" users and the person who posted a threat under graf's post.
-A pedophile is in charge of moderation and another pedophile set the rules for poast. Graf is refusing to ban loli because his head chomo admin would leave the website.
-Users getting banned without warning them first (podawful was banned for joke and altistic for "doxing")
-Defederating users who call out the loli posting.
These claims can be verified in my previous posts.

I will say that the fediverse is a good alternative and people should definitely start their own instance, my main concern is that people blindly trust some random dudes instance because their favorite eceleb promoted it.

 

[TheAntiE-CelebLeague00]

I've been dicking around on it for the past couple of days and haven't seen any loli stuff. There is some weirdo posting anime elf gunts though and it's really weird.

Lets hope the site gets back to a place where Ralph can read it again, it's just not the same without him.

Not going to post it for obvious reasons, but it can be found on /cow/. What will be shown is Graf taking about the material.

Lot of people are falling into the us vs them trap. Just because Ralph is abhorrent doesnt mean Graf is great. POAST IS NOT A FREE SPEECH SITE. IF YOU ALOG RANDBOT OR @CookofDoom242 you will be banned. Poa.st is a hugbox and extension of Randland's discord server. You will get banned if you express any opinion that is outside the very narrow range of opinions tolerated by Randland.

If you post this "CookofDoom242 is Alexander McDaniel and he beat his father" you will be banned. Go @Graf, Rand, or Pond and start going hard on Cook and watch as your account disappears into the void. Or just post ants at Rand. Graf is a friend/cappo of Randbot.

When Dick Masterson and his cappo Digibro was pro that content everyone was rightfully disgusted by it, dont give Graf a pass because he doesnt like Ralph, you can find many people who dislike Ralph. GRAF IS NOT A LOLBERT HE BELIEVES IN CENSORSHIP. It isnt even Graf is pro free speech, he has banned accounts that hurt his feelings. He bans all accounts that give Rand or his cappos a hard time. Mention Randbot's satanist, domestic abusing, discord groomer moderator @CookofDoom242 and watch as he recoils and bans you.

Also Graf is clearly with Rand politically he isnt some free speech absolutist, so therefore what he allows is something he morally approves of. So Graf MORALLY APPROVES of nonce drawings, but HE DOESNT MORALLY APPROVE of making fun of @CookofDoom242

tldr; Graf is fine with pedos but not fine with critique of his internet friends.

EDIT: Glad @3322 @Distinguished Toastmaster and @Procrastinhater are consistent and not blindly believing everything Graf says. Some of you people reflectively take the side of every anti-Ralph person and defend them. The same thing happened with @Flamenco after his dox was posted on the forum people were shilling for him. Graf threatening to sue someone over free speech is the same as Ralph flagging. Ralph abuses the DMCA system while Graf wants to abuse the court system to get rid of critics. In this regard both are the same and Graf shouldnt be left off the hook because he dislikes Ralph (he also hates the farms). Reading through the first few pages some of you people are actually unironically pro lawsuit and think its based to sue people who critique you. This is like cheering for Russel Greer/Melinda Scott. Overtime people will notice this then everyone will turn on Graf and will pretend they never supported him (many such cases you can argue this was the case with Ralph as well).

 

[Sammich]

I will say that the fediverse is a good alternative and people should definitely start their own instance, my main concern is that people blindly trust some random dudes instance because their favorite eceleb promoted it.

A lot of people scream LOLICON and never really explain it, seems like the usual suspects that reach for any little bit of trash they can throw at someone. That is disconcerting to me, sort of muddies the water a lot, I have said before i don't care for anime at all (outside some of the crazy shit from the 80s and 90s), so i don't have a frame of reference. I've been on poast for nearly a year, and the worst I have seen is some girl with massive tits, I don't know if that's what people are callign loli or not. hard for my old brain to decipher that shit.
I will say, I made an account on another fedie node/instance whatever it's called. Found one that had a flat out no loli rule. I did this because some of the stuff being said here makes me a bit uneasy, and i think a couple of different accounts on different nodes/instances is the right way to go. No use in putting all eggs in oen basket.
I push back on y'all here, but i try to give y'all the benefit of the doubt. Well, anti-eceleb and 3322 are both fuckign morons, but for the most part,the rest of you folks don't put spin on it. I'm grateful for the headsup.

 

[Null]

"Any port in a storm" is complete cope. There are other fediverse instances besides poast. I lost significant respect for him because of this.

Because the best possible thing for him to do when getting attacked by creeps who invade female spaces is to creepily invade female spaces himself and take all his baggage with him, WTF is wrong with you?

>Go to any other instance!
>NO NOT THAT ONE

guess what? There aren't any others that will accept the influx of Kiwi Farms attention, especially right now. I'm pretty sure the others like NAS and FSE also allow lolicon.

I can barely keep anything up and you're bitching at me about my choice of emergency backup platforms. You know Telegram probably has a lot of everything you don't like on it, right? Give me a fucking break. Or just fuck off if you're going to push this D&C fednigger shit.

 

[World in Scarlet]

Because the best possible thing for him to do when getting attacked by creeps who invade female spaces is to creepily invade female spaces himself and take all his baggage with him, WTF is wrong with you?

Spinster's about page says men are explicitly allowed on it.

Anyway, they ban hate speech, so it is not a viable alternative regardless.

 

[Fools Idol]

But plenty of ones which aren't run by open pedophiles. The comparison to mainstream sites is just dumb. Sure, you could as a matter of principle not want to join Twitter because Twitter has a massive CP problem (it definitely does) but although for all I know Jack Dorsey or whoever runs that shithole now has a harem of catboys, it is not a known, documented fact that the administration of his site approves of and participates in the distribution of CP. That's the major difference here.

But it's not just mainstream sites, it's everywhere. We all use services that have this content uploaded to them or users who support it, it's not ideal but it's a simple fact of the modern Internet.

Sometimes you're forced into bed with people you may not agree with (or even like) because of outside influences and circumstance out of your control. Maybe your right and it's a mistake but sometimes you just have to deal with the hand you're dealt with.

You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep but you shouldn't simply just accuse someone of a thing because of an innocent association or one of convenience they may have. Your own association with this very website could see you being accused of things you've never done.

 

[Gunterator]

But it's not just mainstream sites, it's everywhere. We all use services that have this content uploaded to them or users who support it, it's not ideal but it's a simple fact of the modern Internet.

Sometimes you're forced into bed with people you may not agree with (or even like) because of outside influences and circumstance out of your control. Maybe your right and it's a mistake but sometimes you just have to deal with the hand you're dealt with.

You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep but you shouldn't simply just accuse someone of a thing because of an innocent association or one of convenience they may have. Your own association with this very website could see you being accused of things you've never done.

It is really funny watching people being a bitch about post on here of all places. All you people complaining are using the same argument that people are using to take down kiwifarms just because they allow something doesn't mean you have to look at it. Everyone that has a twitter or reddit is on a platform with many pedophiles so why bitch about post. If you dont like something you see online dont look just block the account dont be a faggot about it free speech includes things you dont like.

 

[Don Yagon]

I'm pretty sure the others like NAS and FSE also allow lolicon.

FSE doesn't, albeit it lands on side of legal issues rather than being a nanny and keeping the timelines clean.
https://blog.freespeechextremist.com/blog/the-loli-question.html (https://archive.ph/VGJPp)
NAS boomers likely won't tolerate it either.

 

[Jack Awful]

Spinster's about page says men are explicitly allowed on it.

Anyway, they ban hate speech, so it is not a viable alternative regardless.

It is if you want to do the fediverse harem challenge.

 

[GuntN7]

If you want to talk about lolcows, maybe poast and the fediverse is not for you. This is why it's important to still archive everything Ralph and his orbiters do, when the forum becomes stable start posting the drama here. Nobody is forcing you to use other websites, Ralph keeps refreshing his board just like everyone.

 

[Gina Gillotti]

I have to admit I'm a dumbass here and thought lolicon meant more like just characters dressed up in lolita style, but 3322's post made me look it up just now. It specifically means sexual content, it looks like?

Sorry you had to learn about that one, lol. And yeah that is a misconception that enjoyers of lolita fashion have to contend with (/cgl/ is not /d/, the fashion is in no way pedophilic, that's a whole different subject but it's not even really sexualized childlike stuff, which lolicon pornography is by definition, and some of it is really, really vile.)

I've made my points on this subject really though (and it feels like people are just making the same responses) and I don't intend to try to start a fight with Null over this as he has other shit to worry about at this point. I just find lolicon disgusting and free speech arguments used to justify pornography of various kinds is a big pet peeve of mine. Not saying this applies to people ITT but it's striking how the same people who will dither about "hate speech" are free speech absolutists when it comes to degeneracy. That loathsome little goblin Hotwheels being a great example, it was a year or two into his newfound anti-right wing grift before he said allowing the lolishit/pedo boards on 8chan was a mistake.

I've made no secret of the fact that I am anti-porn, full stop, don't consider it speech, don't consider it a loss if it is banned from anywhere and everywhere and those who are behind it are banned from life. I understand that may not be a popular position here but even beyond that I think people are way, way too live-and-let-live about lolicon and other sorts of degeneracy. I don't think there is any grey area there whatsoever. I had never heard of Graf and only vaguely heard of poast before this boondoggle and don't care a whit about him, all I needed to know is that he avows this stuff and hangs out with it's fans, and he is a subhuman to me. I am fine with political speech of any stripe and all the nigger-faggot-tranny talk in the world although sometimes that gets old, but porn and porn that caters to pedophiles in particular (whether drawn or otherwise) is unacceptable. It looks like Graf is now regretting his choices which is good. I hope this ruins him. Fuck him double for making me a Gunt Guard, kek.

 

[Johnandonandon]

>Go to any other instance!
>NO NOT THAT ONE

guess what? There aren't any others that will accept the influx of Kiwi Farms attention, especially right now. I'm pretty sure the others like NAS and FSE also allow lolicon.

I can barely keep anything up and you're bitching at me about my choice of emergency backup platforms. You know Telegram probably has a lot of everything you don't like on it, right? Give me a fucking break. Or just fuck off if you're going to push this D&C fednigger shit.

Ok

 

[Maude Snew]

Don't remember where I heard it, might even have been Null who said it in which case I'm just being dumb and redundant but somewhere I got the wonderful statement of "do not make the mistake of ranking evils, you might be tempted to ally with the lesser one". Has a nice ring to it, hard to argue with in theory and also apt. In practice shit tends to get a little difficult and lately I just find myself admitting that shit's more difficult and I can't just make a call about some hypothetical situation on the spot. It's okay to not know, just step back and laugh. When you have the luxury of not having to make snap decisions maybe don't.

 

[Jump]

No other instance would have put up with the schizophrenia and DDOS attacks kfcc rapefugee's brought with them. I doubt there is any other instance that would allow Josh on now even if they liked him. The tranny heat is just to hot to handle at this time.

I've made no secret of the fact that I am anti-porn, full stop, don't consider it speech, don't consider it a loss if it is banned from anywhere and everywhere and those who are behind it are banned from life.

Then you don't want to be on the fediverse at all then. Because if you set the view to "whole network" its mostly porn and anime.

I am on poast and don't follow anime or porn posters. So I don't see any of it. If you don't like graf then just don't follow him or his friends. Or better yet just don't use poast. kfcc didn't block porn instances. It just blocked instances that didn't post it with a spoiler. You could have sat on kfcc and seen the same exact shit you see on poast or any of the other free speech instances. I don't see the point in talking in circles for pages. Poast is a anime heavy instance. We know, we get it.

 

[Automaton Type 2B]

It is really funny watching people being a bitch about post on here of all places. All you people complaining are using the same argument that people are using to take down kiwifarms just because they allow something doesn't mean you have to look at it. Everyone that has a twitter or reddit is on a platform with many pedophiles so why bitch about post. If you dont like something you see online dont look just block the account dont be a faggot about it free speech includes things you dont like.

Yeah, The "lolicon" is a strange hill to die on.

It's a damn shame that Graf is a thin skinned bitch who runs defense for his capos at the expense of the site.

 

[Wodanaz]

Graf seems like a bit of a retard, but some of you guys are even more retarded if you don't understand why Josh would make friends with people who won't literally pretend he isn't a person and refuse to associate with him in any way, or just sperg out and lie about him. Lolicons are not ddosing websites and getting massive corporations to take shit down. Lolicons do not matter. Get over yourself. Sure, it's disgusting. I agree. It's not affecting you, and shitting on people who are helping the owner of the site you use every day to say shit you can't say anywhere else is massively retarded. Sooner or later you will have to peer with someone, and you will find something about them that's objectionable. Tough shit, it's the Internet, not the Meternet. If you disagree, then I have a good friend named Lucas to introduce. He's very good at getting shit taken down because he doesn't like it. You might find him to be acceptable company, under the circumstances.

Oh, you're one of those.

Drawings do not have rights. Our feelings on the moral implications of jacking off to lolicon do not affect this. The day the united states government starts legislating what kind of drawings are allowed to be made is the day I kill myself. If you trust them with that kind of power then you are nigger cattle. I only bring this up because it seems to be the logical end point to your reasoning (for lack of a better word). If you literally believe that there's no real difference between CP and lolicon, then you have to admit that you would like it to be banned by the government. And I hope I don't have to define "slippery slope" for you. See: the Patriot Act.

I had never heard of Josh and only vaguely heard of Kiwifarms before this boondoggle and don't care a whit about him, all I needed to know is that he avows this stuff, and he is a subhuman to me. I am fine with political speech of any stripe but hate speech is hate speech that caters to nazis in particular is unacceptable.

Very interesting point, upvoted.

Actually on topic: Water is wet, Ralph is retarded. Everyone can see that he's obsessed with reading Jim's tweets:

I highly doubt there will be a lolsuit.

 

[3322]

If you literally believe that there's no real difference between CP and lolicon, then you have to admit that you would like it to be banned by the government.

 

[Wodanaz]

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I heard there's this website called "kiwi farms" that also allows similar objectionable content. We should get some bills passed which put a stop to harassment and doxing once and for all. Then we can finally ban cigarettes and booze, next is guns. It will all work out in the end.

 

[3322]

I heard there's this website called "kiwi farms" that also allows similar objectionable content. We should get some bills passed which put a stop to harassment and doxing once and for all. Then we can finally ban cigarettes and booze, next is guns. It will all work out in the end.

Null goes out of his way to ban lolicon, he even took on the entire vtuber thread over it. There is no relation between banning lolicon and banning doxing and making fun of people. One of those things is for pedophiles and the other is for Chads who like to have fun on the internet. You see, I'm not a libertarian. I don't believe in freedom for all, I believe that my side is right and the other side is wrong and if I was in charge I would line all the pedos up against the wall and yes, I would also ban porn. Not guns tho, I need those to keep away the pedophiles.

 

[Wodanaz]

Null goes out of his way to ban lolicon, he even took on the entire vtuber thread over it. There is no relation between banning lolicon and banning doxing and making fun of people. One of those things is for pedophiles and the other is for Chads who like to have fun on the internet. You see, I'm not a libertarian. I don't believe in freedom for all, I believe that my side is right and the other side is wrong and if I was in charge I would line all the pedos up against the wall and yes, I would also ban porn. Not guns tho, I need those to keep away the pedophiles.

Instead of arguing this dumb shit I'll just post a quote from Neil Gaiman.
"There's never been a true war that wasn't fought between two sets of people who were certain they were in the right. The really dangerous people believe they are doing whatever they are doing solely and only because it is without question the right thing to do. And that is what makes them dangerous."
Make of that what you will.