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Like a dog marking its territory, a furry must let everyone know that that space is theirs and to stay the hell away
Furry Fandom and Drama General
- Thread starter Holdek
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Frens and Furniggers alike, while we weather the storm here I have a campfire story of sorts to tell from times past.
I call this a campfire story as I have only found archives and two screenshots that paint a rather absurd late-2019 story that I have been meaning to share. I hope you enjoy this tale of..:
Fag Destruction, Political Play & Toxic Masculinity!
I would forgive you if you thought that this was a story about some snowflake ranting about the above buzzwords, but this is furries we're talking about here - those buzzwords serve the purpose of fulfilling a fetish! Allow me to share a few screencaps from SharkyPadded:
You're probably thinking; how the fuck can anyone turn this bullshit into masturbation fodder?
Behold:
Censored because I was sharing with normie friends at the time for lulz.
Interesting enough, someone had the mind to archive this, though sadly the original images appear to be lost:
He was so hyped for this niche source of fantasy he created an FA, though it shows no traces of existing on any archives: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/redbeatsblue/
After reviewing the above exhibits, tell me - how do you think this ended?
If you guessed "Eating Crow" you are right!
Archives of this exist as well before he went locked:
This was not of course without warning though, but with like-minded degenerates, it was inevitable he would feel empowered to share his polarizing fetish with the world only for it to backfire spectacularly: https://archive.ph/xIrCz
He was even ridiculed in group chats for nearly a month after the incident: https://archive.ph/ex4u8
So to recap: White gay liberal furry has fantasies of conservatives fucking him just because they are the "evil" political ideology, orbiting furfags overreact as if this is perpetuating some sort of violence against them, coomer eats words but since he is a porn artist this is forgotten not a month later.
I hope this has brought you some chuckles in this time of hardship - but we will persevere and come out on top! We are Kiwis, goddamnit!
I call this a campfire story as I have only found archives and two screenshots that paint a rather absurd late-2019 story that I have been meaning to share. I hope you enjoy this tale of..:
Fag Destruction, Political Play & Toxic Masculinity!
I would forgive you if you thought that this was a story about some snowflake ranting about the above buzzwords, but this is furries we're talking about here - those buzzwords serve the purpose of fulfilling a fetish! Allow me to share a few screencaps from SharkyPadded:
You're probably thinking; how the fuck can anyone turn this bullshit into masturbation fodder?
Behold:
Censored because I was sharing with normie friends at the time for lulz.
Interesting enough, someone had the mind to archive this, though sadly the original images appear to be lost:
After reviewing the above exhibits, tell me - how do you think this ended?
If you guessed "Eating Crow" you are right!
This was not of course without warning though, but with like-minded degenerates, it was inevitable he would feel empowered to share his polarizing fetish with the world only for it to backfire spectacularly: https://archive.ph/xIrCz
He was even ridiculed in group chats for nearly a month after the incident: https://archive.ph/ex4u8
So to recap: White gay liberal furry has fantasies of conservatives fucking him just because they are the "evil" political ideology, orbiting furfags overreact as if this is perpetuating some sort of violence against them, coomer eats words but since he is a porn artist this is forgotten not a month later.
I hope this has brought you some chuckles in this time of hardship - but we will persevere and come out on top! We are Kiwis, goddamnit!
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Having dabbled in AI Art, I see no difference between it and collage. There justification for the bans are pretty lame, in the retarded sort of way: "
AI and machine learning applications (DALL-E, Craiyon) sample other artists' work to create content. That content generated can reference hundreds, even thousands of pieces of work from other artists to create derivative images.
Our goal is to support artists and their content. We don’t believe it’s in our community’s best interests to allow AI generated content on the site."
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That's the problem. Generated images are easy to make and, therefore, to spam. An epitome of low-effort content.
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That is all well and good, however, put that as your justification and not whatever crap that is. I'm pretty certain, in addition, they have an anti spam policy. Also, low effort is still effort, you have to prompt the AI using your own words to create an image as it doesn't just "Become Human" it and produce something on its own. It still requires human input. Then you got people like myself who like to photobash and collage various AI generated assets into a cohesive piece sometimes taking maybe 50 to 60 AI prompts to complete one image. All in, this is probably a week of work when it is all said and done. But to then say, "That content generated can reference hundreds, even thousands of pieces of work from other artists to create derivative images." is very insulting. Photo collage and collage art in general is accepted among the art community, a form of art that is based nearly entirely on using other people's forms of media and transform it into something else. I don't see the difference here.
TLDR: Yes, I understand some folks can do "low effort" posts to spam, with that said, it is not the reason it is banned.
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It's a knee-jerk reaction pure and simple.
FA already has policies against spamming, so any "low-effort AI-generated image spam" would be handled by those already. What happened is that enough people screeched about "AI is going to put artists out of a job!" to get Dragoneer to do something. Even though the premise is fundamentally ludicrous, they don't care. It's the soundbite that matters. Also, they love to talk about "supporting the artists", while at the same time complaining whenever any artist ups their prices for whatever reason. How dare someone want more than 25 bucks for their work, right?
In the end, FA is a form of social media, and social media lives by mob rules. It was inevitable, just like with NFTs.
FA already has policies against spamming, so any "low-effort AI-generated image spam" would be handled by those already. What happened is that enough people screeched about "AI is going to put artists out of a job!" to get Dragoneer to do something. Even though the premise is fundamentally ludicrous, they don't care. It's the soundbite that matters. Also, they love to talk about "supporting the artists", while at the same time complaining whenever any artist ups their prices for whatever reason. How dare someone want more than 25 bucks for their work, right?
In the end, FA is a form of social media, and social media lives by mob rules. It was inevitable, just like with NFTs.
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I still think it's a main reason behind this decision. But it's a booooooring one. One, that doesn't show him sticking with your fellow furry artists, doesn't show him doing THE RIGHT THING(tm). Also it eleminates possible drama along the lines if this donutsteal is stollen or accidentially looks similar by the virtue of random. Or countless other possible drammas. He knows he's dealing with furries, after all.
The Atlantic Ocean
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Wealthy middle-aged British furry Xavier Fox mentioned in passing that he bailed out Ash Coyote to the tune of thousands of dollars after Ash’s documentary “The Fandom” was released in 2020.
(https://archive.ph/pthZq)
(https://archive.ph/pthZq)
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I can't compete with your autism, you've won.
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That dude's still probably still paying off that IMVU buyback anyway.
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Discord moment. They're a troon as well, could almost make a bingo card out of it
round robin
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Unfortunately nothing substantial so far no, most I can gather is a bit of shit flinging, still looking for something decent when I get the time
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Most I can gather is that a popular furry streamer named Lumikin, or Lumetric (I don't fucking know these furry streamer names I'm not that kind of autistic), was caught with allegations towards being a fan of, and even commissioning, shota cub (Basically boy child porn in what both of these terms mean).
https://twitter.com/TouchScalyTail/status/1570608237350879235 / https://archive.ph/kliYo archive
https://twitter.com/TouchScalyTail/status/1570608242207887360 / https://archive.ph/uasWC archive
for intents and purposes of me being too lazy to do so and I do not want to look at the equivalent of child porn, I am not copying the Imgur stuff into here but I will archive the screenshots within these tweets.
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Doesn’t this happen like every other week?
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A lot of content creators get outed for this, not just furries. I assume it happens more often in the furry community though because of how sexualized everything is there.
Dalmatian Enthusiast
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I don't know much about the back end of the AI generated stuff, but I do know that there has already sprung up a dedicated community of coomers who spend their free time generating new furry porn using other people's porn as a basis. There are "Stable Diffusion" threads on /trash/ where people are doing this around the clock, and with surprising accuracy. I expect that there will be a sharp falloff in interest in AI generation among the masses after this last bout - it will eventually just be seen as a novelty of the times, a flavor of the month (like NFTs were last year), but there will still be hardcore deviants with oddly specific fetishes who will turn to it out of necessity. Likely people in that camp will commission here and there to get stuff that they can plug into the bot and then from there they'll select the best generated pictures and feed them back into the machine - like some strange, deranged, and sexually deviant form of Darwinism.
Chiropteran
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I've seen some pieces of art where the male characters in a piece were very clearly AI generated. Got any examples? How accurate are we talking, because they almost always tend to look muddled or have something about them you can pick out as weird.
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It's about as accurate as you would expect AI generated furry porn to be - what the anons in the stable diffusion thread on /trash/ seem to be doing is finding tags and combinations of tags that yield better results and then rolling and rerolling in whatever software they're using until they get what they want. In that thread there's everything from 100% AI generated art (which tends to look worse than the other stuff), to pre-existing art that they're just using the AI to correct the lighting or other details with. An example (that I'll describe but I won't post here) would be that there are plushiefags in that thread that are taking pre-existing art of characters and then applying tags relating to their fetish and then running the image through the program with those tags and getting the same character, in the same pose, but now a plushie with the stitch lines and all. You can pick out that something's up if you stare long enough at any of it - I just assume that beggars can't be choosers and that's why the hardcore deviants and bargain bin coomers will gravitate towards this stuff.