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[teriyakiburns]

Also, any new shit on the Maralago stuff?

Seems to have gone completely silent. I guess nothing juicy came out of their fishing expedition, so now they're back to relying on pre-release material from "insider" memoirs that prove Trump totally really said he was stealing documents for realsies.

 

[The Nothingness]

Dems will be laser-focused on how DeSantis handles Hurricane Ian and will pissed when he likely does a good job and doesn't totally rely on federal aid.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

The salt resulting from Italy pushing forth their own homegrown right wing government has been particularly tasty.

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

The salt resulting from Italy pushing forth their own homegrown right wing government has been particularly tasty.

Righteous Lefties: "You stupid fucking right wing hicks, Don't you know that European governments are obviously better and more successful than American ones?!?! Just look at them!"
Europe: "This right wing stuff is looking like exactly what we need right now"
Righteous Lefties: "FUCKING FASCIST INFILTRATIONS YOU'RE ALL WRONG"

Its incredibly gratifying to watch such a stuck up and arrogant worldview collapse around them. Its not just that they're being proven wrong, its not just that their losing, its that they genuinely got so high off their own self appointed noble status that they can't understand the plebs actions anymore as anything other than rebellion, rather than self interest.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

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Dems will be laser-focused on how DeSantis handles Hurricane Ian and will pissed when he likely does a good job and doesn't totally rely on federal aid.

They’re surely setting up a “Heckuva job, Brownie!” narrative as we speak.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Regarding the pipeline, everyone seems to assume it was planned. I wouldn't rule it out, but I find it funny everyone has forgotten what timeline we're in. There is a nonzero possibility that a diversity hire blew up the wrong pipe, or spilled their coffee on the controls, or did some other incompetent shit.

Nonzero certainly, but in this specific case nawh. When it comes to pipelines decommission rarely means tear up or blow up, that costs excessive money so companies usually just leave them as-is once the inflow is rerouted. Plus given Nord Stream 1 and 2 are fully operable (since Russia has only halted flows) it lends greater credence to someone not wanting Europe getting any funny ideas as winter comes knocking.

The twitstorm and shills on /pol/ are all about Russia doing it, but why? Russia can just shut it off at the source.

Because only Russia can be the bad guy these days. Thinking the likes of the US or Britain would ever have ulterior motives and engage in calculated geopolitical manoeuvres would short-circuit their brains.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Thinking the likes of the US or Britain would ever have ulterior motives and engage in calculated geopolitical manoeuvres would short-circuit their brains.

I can't speak for the US, but our own secret services don't display the sort of competence necessary to engage in this sort of operation. The SBS might, but they're not deployed anywhere near the pipeline.

It's going to be Russia that did it. They're not averse to false-flagging and they want to try and punish Germany for not immediately cucking to their every demand. Forcing a wedge into NATO, right after a new pipeline opens between Germany and Norway, would be a great way to distract the west from their failing operation in Ukraine.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

After the hiatus I realized I have only gotten my news from this place.
That's probably not a good thing, but IDK what on Earth has been going on lately.

 

[mandatorylurk]

I will just assume you frens have kept up somehow on the current events since the site was hit, so let's start with today:

-Manchin cucked on his one big excuse for voting for the "Inflation Reduction Act", the pipeline for West Virginia. For fear of it being blocked in the House by The Squad, he pulled it from the stopgap resolution last night where it still passed 72-23-5 due to GOP faggots.

-T-Bone wants to negotiate a truce with everyone who are being idiots:

 

[teriyakiburns]

I will just assume you frens have kept up somehow on the current events since the site was hit, so let's start with today:

-Manchin cucked on his one big excuse for voting for the "Inflation Reduction Act", the pipeline for West Virginia. For fear of it being blocked in the House by The Squad, he pulled it from the stopgap resolution last night where it still passed 72-23-5 due to GOP faggots.

-T-Bone wants to negotiate a truce with everyone who are being idiots:

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He's right, a reflexive response is the worst possible in this situation, but people are stupid.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

So the Russians pulled it off/avoided detection with a group of US warships only 18 miles away?

The Russkies benefit not one bit from the blasts. In fact, it takes away quite a bit of their leverage. Putin can’t just say to Germany, “I’ll push a button/turn a valve and all your energy woes will cease if only you’ll abandon the sanctions”.

So who benefits from the destruction of those pipelines? You know who, and like you yourself said, there’s not a lot of folks who could pull that off. You say that the UK couldn’t, but state that the Russkies could. Well, if they could, then surely the US could, and the US had ships only 18 miles from the blast.

 

[Matt Damon]

He's right, a reflexive response is the worst possible in this situation, but people are stupid.

And the Biden administration has shown time after time that they're not exactly playing 4D geopolitical chess.

I fully expect - at best - hysterical womanly bluster that only makes the US look stupid and weak.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

And the Biden administration has shown time after time that they're not exactly playing 4D geopolitical chess.

I fully expect - at best - hysterical womanly bluster that only makes the US look stupid and weak.

If the US blowing up those pipelines goes unanswered, and the odds are that it will, then the US Govt ends up looking pretty fucking strong.

 

[mandatorylurk]

Ukraine benefits the most from the pipelines being damaged/destroyed. Now Germany can't negotiate with Russia, it makes Russia possibly do something stupid (although they can just ship it all east instead), which would then mean US and Europe jump in to fight.

The next benefiter would be Scandi countries, as Norway turned on their Poland gas pipeline yesterday. Those assholes always act pious and righteous, they could be a clean middle man for this sort of activity.

The fags in congress just had actual nazis in Azov batallion at the Capitol earlier this week to lobby for more gibs, the dick sucking is getting to Hunter Biden levels of obscene.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

If the US blowing up those pipelines goes unanswered, and the odds are that it will, then the US Govt ends up looking pretty fucking strong.

The problem, to my mind, was never the "strength" of the USA, but rather it's long term planning and execution, as well as risk management. It's no secret that US policy can be a bit schizophrenic at best.

Regardless, The blowing of the Nordstream pipelines puts the last nail into the coffin of an early negotiated peace in Ukraine. This war will last until one side or the other exhausts itself. The US Admin and European leadership are betting the farm that they can prop Ukraine up longer than the Russians can sustain themselves.

It is up to the reader to decide if the US/West decided to remove the easy off-ramp.

 

[Matt Damon]

Regardless, The blowing of the Nordstream pipelines puts the last nail into the coffin of an early negotiated peace in Ukraine. This war will last until one side or the other exhausts itself. The US Admin and European leadership are betting the farm that they can prop Ukraine up longer than the Russians can sustain themselves.

I just wonder how long it's going to be before the winds change and western leftists start talking about how terrible this imperialistic proxy war is.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Russia trying to play NATO members off against one another explains far more than the US trying to force a protracted war in eastern europe. Inducing mistrust between NATO members in the midst of an economic crash and an energy crisis is exactly the sort of thing they have a long history of.

although they can just ship it all east instead

They don't have the capacity. This is the reason they've been flaring gas for the last few months, despite China buying every cubic foot of Russian gas they can get their hands on; they can't shut down their extraction for obvious reasons, their storage is full, and there's not enough pipeline or terminal capacity to the east

 

[BONE_Buddy]

I just wonder how long it's going to be before the winds change and western leftists start talking about how terrible this imperialistic proxy war is.

As long as the Far Right Uber Nazis in America and Europe continue to call for a negotiated peace settlement, and a swift end to the war, the Left will support said war.

Besides this is a bit of wet dream for them. Everybody get to have Green energy (by force) and the excuse to totalize government control over the public's energy usage. It's all sorts of fun, given that they can stay in office that is.

We'll have to see if most of the current ruling coalitions are able to hold on into the Winter.

 

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I deployed on the Kearsarge once a long time ago. The ships and the MEU attached to that strike group are enough to take over most small countries. That being said, they don't traditionally deploy like you might think. MEU are constantly deploying even during peacetime and just float around the world waiting for something to pop off. There's at least 1 sub and 1 destroyer attached, and the carrier would have helicopters, VSTOL jets, V-22's, armored amphibious vehicles, and about an entire regiment of Marine infantry.

minor corrections...a MEU has a battalion of infantry attached. A MEU consists of a command element (what I was part of), air combat element (helos, harriers and their supporting staff and equipment), logistics combat element (logistics related stuff and supporting staff), and the ground combat element (infantry, supporting staff, artillery, amphibious vehicles, recon, etc). All told about 2200-4400 marines in general, aboard 3 Navy ships and their personnel (1X amphibious assault ship, 1X amphibious transport dock ship, 1X dock landing ship).

and now for the big question hoard....shellback or pollywog?

 

[northstar747]

Besides this is a bit of wet dream for them. Everybody get to have Green energy (by force) and the excuse to totalize government control over the public's energy usage. It's all sorts of fun, given that they can stay in office that is.

Its not really. Because "green tech" for germany is using natural gas. Solar and Wind arent options and having the german industrial base starved for energry and raw material materials will kill green energy.

Thats why green pushes are always some kinda phase out or in 5, 10 years where gonna use EV.

Also land use, industrial farming produces huuge amounts of food per unit of land use. If you remove fertilizers you need to clear and run 4 times as much land. "organic" farming is just luxury good.

Its been mentioned here but environmental movements have been high jacked by climate change at the cost off all other issues.

having people out of work, cold, and high costs of food etc. will harm the movement