Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

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This is legitimately horrifying. All those raw conscripts, dumped on a veteran unit. And what does that Unit do? Tells them to go fuck themselves instead of, I dunno, sending some NCO's and officers over to try and do something to whip them into shape. So, left to their own devices, they all mill about, make some fires and get drunk.

All of those men are going to die. No joke. There is absolutely no hope for them, and I think they all know it too. Jesus fuck. I've crossed over from almost feeling bad for the Russian conscripts to actually praying for them. Not for their victory, but for them just getting out of this mess.
There are channels available to them to surrender they will be treated well and get to enjoy the newly civilized globohohol state
 
This is legitimately horrifying. All those raw conscripts, dumped on a veteran unit. And what does that Unit do? Tells them to go fuck themselves instead of, I dunno, sending some NCO's and officers over to try and do something to whip them into shape. So, left to their own devices, they all mill about, make some fires and get drunk.
This is the perfect recipe for good ol' fragging to come back in season.
 
This is the perfect recipe for good ol' fragging to come back in season.
This implies they even get to frag grenade range before running or trying to surrender. Light Infantry Battles begin at 2 KILOMETERS, which is the maximum effective range of crew served machine guns. These untrained mongs will be taking direct fire before they even see who is shooting at them, while mortars and rockets rain from above and Tanks rumble in the distance. There are several weeks of training required to teach a soldier how to fight a modern battle, among which is impressing on them just how loud, impersonal and indiscriminate it is.

These guys will be totally unprepared for it, will panic, and get killed because of it.
 
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This implies they even get to frag grenade range before running or trying to surrender. Light Infantry Battles begin at 2 KILOMETERS, which is the maximum effective range of crew served machine guns. These untrained mongs will be taking direct fire before they even see who is shooting at them, while mortars and rockets rain from above and Tanks rumble in the distance. There are several weeks of training required to teach a soldier how to fight a modern battle, among which is impressing on them just how loud, impersonal and indiscriminate it is.

These guys will be totally unprepared for it, will panic, and get killed because of it.
I don't think they'll try to disguise with frag grenades, I think some may end up just shooting their superior as a form of suicide.
 
This implies they even get to frag grenade range before running or trying to surrender. Light Infantry Battles begin at 2 KILOMETERS, which is the maximum effective range of crew served machine guns. These untrained mongs will be taking direct fire before they even see who is shooting at them, while mortars and rockets rain from above and Tanks rumble in the distance. There are several weeks of training required to teach a soldier how to fight a modern battle, among which is impressing on them just how loud, impersonal and indiscriminate it is.

These guys will be totally unprepared for it, will panic, and get killed because of it.
Fragging is done to your own officers/NCOs, and if they are present they are in range.

But indeed these men are simply being wasted. Their "parent" unit doesn't give a fuck about them. Suggest the VDV have plenty of problems of their own.

Simply no excuse. This happened in Russia during WWII, but at that time the country was fighting for its very life, unlike the present. Am sure ample funds had been appropriated by the Duma over the years to train/equip/house/supply service members, but the vast majority of that money ended up in people's pockets. Those who stole the money laugh at the discomfitures of these sons of Russia, dragooned into fighting for one man's fantasies.

Ya, could well see mass surrenders by these poor men. And the Ukrainians will gain publicity by showing how they feed and care for these hapless victims.

On a related subject, found an interesting story about a Ukrainian bakery near the front lines. God bless these bakers.


 
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Okay so apparently the Russians are begging for air support on Telegram, I had not seen this account before but supposedly it's a guy serving on the ground (OCR translated)
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ATM russia cannot spare 15 tanks to help out Armenia, which it promised to do as the CSTO "big guy", and as in effect CSTO just became useless. I bet they will throw some serious resources towards some Burkina Faso warlord tho
The CSTO falling apart was a sight to behold. Right after the Kharkiv offensive the Azeris invade, Russian peacekeepers dip out of Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan start border skirmishes, Kazakhstan says "we with China now". And some Georgian politician suggested having a referendum on declaring war on Russia to get the separatist regions back.
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Okay so apparently the Russians are begging for air support on Telegram, I had not seen this account before but supposedly it's a guy serving on the ground (OCR translated)
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The CSTO falling apart was a sight to behold. Right after the Kharkiv offensive the Azeris invade, Russian peacekeepers dip out of Armenia, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan start border skirmishes, Kazakhstan says "we with China now". And some Georgian politician suggested having a referendum on declaring war on Russia to get the separatist regions back.
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The "Everything would be fine if it weren't so bad" picture is gold, just fucking gold. The Russians have literally become the "If only you knew how bad things really are" meme.
 
I have a feeling of deja vu. Ukraine forcibly mobilized everyone it could, followed by a month of nothing or small Ukrainian losses, and now they are gaining success in the counteroffensive. Now it is Russia's turn to mobilize. Are we waiting for a repeat of this scenario from the other side?
 
I have a feeling of deja vu. Ukraine forcibly mobilized everyone it could, followed by a month of nothing or small Ukrainian losses, and now they are gaining success in the counteroffensive. Now it is Russia's turn to mobilize. Are we waiting for a repeat of this scenario from the other side?
the question is whether the russian military has the capacity to properly train and equip the mobilized men and make effective soldiers of them
the videos and anecdotes we have right now about freshly mobilized civilians being thrown into frontline combat units with near zero preparation are pretty grim, but we don't really know from the outside whether this is a regular occurence or just a handful of isolated fuckups being blown out of proportion for fun and propaganda purposes

only time will tell. by march next year we can look back and see whether the mobilisation worked out well or not.
 
I have a feeling of deja vu. Ukraine forcibly mobilized everyone it could, followed by a month of nothing or small Ukrainian losses, and now they are gaining success in the counteroffensive. Now it is Russia's turn to mobilize. Are we waiting for a repeat of this scenario from the other side?
Pretty much. Putin's speech on partial mobilization was an admission that they could no longer do the job with the numbers at hand, and Ukraine making gains in the north is proof.

It's gradually escalating from a quasi-limited incursion which mostly avoided hitting civilian infrastructure to a full blown all-out war with no limits. Russia will win the ground phase of that war in Ukraine (at a higher price than they'd hoped to pay) but that's almost a sideshow unless Russia unexpectedly loses. The broader conflict between the West and Russia/China over who gets to rule the global economy will go on.
 
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The "Everything would be fine if it weren't so bad" picture is gold, just fucking gold. The Russians have literally become the "If only you knew how bad things really are" meme.
Yup, it's his closing statement in a telegram post: https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/2911
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I have a feeling of deja vu. Ukraine forcibly mobilized everyone it could, followed by a month of nothing or small Ukrainian losses, and now they are gaining success in the counteroffensive. Now it is Russia's turn to mobilize. Are we waiting for a repeat of this scenario from the other side?
The issue is that the Ukrainian mobilized were in many ways undertrained and underequipped, but their job was just holding the line. Offensive operations are inherently more dangerous and require more training. I am not following the units involved in the ground but if the TDF is doing something, it's probably just going behind the regular army to mop up stragglers and pockets of resistance.
The Russian mobilized would need at least 4 months of intensive training, 6 preferable, to do offensive work. But Russia sent a load of instructors to plug the losses in the early months of the war...
 
Imagine if US troops where pinned down in some bumfuck country in the middle east and where using Twitter to try and get air support. This is what that Telegrams shit are akin too.
Yeah, who knew ruskies would use random telegrams and speak the equivalent of ESL gibberish to ask command for support instead of you know.....actual communication devices and using their actual language instead of google translate
 
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