Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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Even other trannies, this one had been tweeting hours earlier in support of Lucas, are starting to turn on him.
just fucking amazing
"this is stuff I've heard for months now, I never gave it any credibility"

I thought Destiny was doing some unnecessary autistic cataloguing of what everyone obviously knew, but apparently it's literally necessary because the dipshits just won't believe any of it is real unless someone rubs their face right in it

I always thought they just cynically denied the truth like keffals itself does but no, really, a lot of them are just oblivious tools? huh.
 
just fucking amazing
"this is stuff I've heard for months now, I never gave it any credibility"

I thought Destiny was doing some unnecessary autistic cataloguing of what everyone obviously knew, but apparently it's literally necessary because the dipshits just won't believe any of it is real unless someone rubs their face right in it

I always thought they just cynically denied the truth like keffals itself does but no, really, a lot of them are just oblivious tools? huh.
Part of it is how thorough and succinct it is, as well as being well sourced. Part of it is that he has a large public reach, not only a large direct audience but also well connected to many others in the space. But it really helps that, like or hate him, he's actually got a reputation for being fairly intellectually honest and good faith. Far from perfect, but head and shoulders above most of his peers. I don't know of any public streamers/debatelords in the online political space that will actually go hard against people on their own side if they're being retarded. All the shitlibs towed the line with things like Kyle Rittenhouse and troons in sports where he actually had the balls to take a more sane stand and even lost his twitch account because of it.

The reputation of the source you get info from is a big deal to normies who can't or wont investigate original evidence when linked, half the people won't even visit all those sources in the manifesto, they'll just trust that he's done his due diligence, where as they'll ignore sources posted here. At the very least he's useful. He's also going after Keffals legally for defamation which is a big deal, who else in this space would do something like that?
 
I thought Destiny was doing some unnecessary autistic cataloguing of what everyone obviously knew, but apparently it's literally necessary because the dipshits just won't believe any of it is real unless someone rubs their face right in it

I always thought they just cynically denied the truth like keffals itself does but no, really, a lot of them are just oblivious tools? huh.
I don't think it's that they didn't believe it, I just think all of these troons are self serving opportunists so now that Lucas is no longer useful to their clout chasing they're looking for excuses to ditch him and use it as an opportunity to gain more attention and money in doing so.

I like how they're all crouching to make Destiny not look like such a midget.
 
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It's impossible for me to wrap my head around how a guy like Destiny can watch this freakazoid faggot purposely goes out of their way to sabotage his primary revenue stream on Twitch where he had 500k followers and still continue to show the level of restraint that he has throughout this entire ordeal. This is amplified even further by the fact that he has a child he's obligated to at the very least financially support for many more years to come. Especially during a time of political unrest in his online sphere where the rules are constantly changing and ill-defined, where he can never be too sure that each YouTube upload/stream isn't his last before another nonsensical ban to appease the troon mob, advertisers, etc.

Showing that level of restraint seems to go hand-in-hand with wanting to continue flying under the radar of tech overlords capable of nuking his platforms but with Destiny we know that he'd very likely operate in a very similar way even without the threat of potential deplatforming. The same goes for his audience who don't really have anything to lose outside of burner Reddit/Twitter accounts or whatever but still maintain this kind of self-restraint. It's just so insane to me that throughout everything these troons have subjected him to, both online and IRL, financially and emotionally, he and his audience still equate the word "Lucas" with "nigger" basically. I was just reading responses to the manifesto on Vaush and Destiny's respective subreddits and if there's one thing they agree on it's that even an accidental pronoun being used is essentially equivalent to a violent hate crime worse than even Asian elders getting knockout gamed by joggers.

If there's just a single instance of muh deadnaming or misgendering in one of Destiny's spaces online, you can reliably expect every chatter/DGGer/Redditor who sees it to go on a holier-than-thou tirade and react much more strongly than they ever would for the actual perpetrator of all of this, Keffals himself. Should Steven see this himself, expect an instant-ban and ethical lecture explaining "trans women are women okay" even if the environment was in a vacuum insulated from any of the surrounding drama. I just feel like I'm slowly going insane anytime I seek this stuff out. Every related channel online outside of this one doesn't even seem to blink when agreeing that the tranny groomer pedophile is a real woman who deserves respect and for whom deadnaming/misgendering is worse then the actual pedophilic grooming and crimes committed themselves. It seriously makes me feel like I'm losing my mind seeing all sides of this conflict in lockstep with one another and just convince themselves that up is down.

Jesse Singal is unique in that he's one of very few journalists even willing to touch the subject because it's now largely what he's known for and built his career off of. He's intimately familiar with how sick, deranged, and outright criminal the online troon mob is and yet even he would feign outrage at the idea of anyone referring to Keffals as a man named Lucas. He and his co-host Katie deserve credit where it's due because without them the wider internet is left with retards like Lorenz to fill in the blanks but still, it's all so fucked, bros. How does anyone like Destiny or Singal go through the experiences with troons that they've had and not become forcibly insanely redpilled as a result? I just don't get it, I really don't.
it's not restraint, it's just him being a cuck. submission and deference comes naturally to these types.
 
Going to chime in here. Also not a Destiny fan, don't know a whole lot about him. I thought his piece was pretty level headed and a pretty fair take on things, nothing that's a deal breaker. I know people are shitting on him for calling Lucas a woman and he probably believes it, but I think he had to regardless. These people will take any piece of wrong-think you've ever had in order to disregard you stating facts. Their entire worldview is built upon lies that shatters with the first critical thought. If they can write you off as a transphobe or a nazi or right wing or whatever, they will.

It's also nice to know what site we have been taking the fall for. Is there anyone more familiar with doxbin? Why is Lucas so scared of them? I poked around briefly and only saw some half ass doxes of nobodies and the reason for doxing was 'idk she's a whore'. Is there more to it? Regardless, Destiny was right to hide the name of this site to avoid being accused of linking to Lucas' dox.

Let's be real here for a second. Destiny only defended the Farms to protect himself, he made the statement that why he is going to bat for the Farms is because of how easily Cloudflare pulled the plug on it for unsubstantiated reasons he then says, anyone could just astroturf my website screencap some fedpost and get it shut down. In short if Keffals was not going after him he would have reveled in the notion some troon was getting KF's shut down.
I don't think what you're saying was the exact purpose. I think it was to empathize with what happened to us and how we were framed and to convey to his audience how easily any online community could be taken down by a couple of saboteurs. The guy who turned up at the apartment in Belfast was from 4chan, and the 'bomb threat' was dealt with how any other platform would treat such a post. But we've been a thorn in Cloudflare's side so they were ready to pull the plug over the flimsiest reason. It would just appeal to a Destiny fan that they could also be taken down by some fedposters to realized how fucked up our situation is.

I was going to say that this thread seems to call Destiny a cuck way too much and it's a bit obnoxious, but.
So when are Josh, Destiny, and Lucas gonna have a 3way?
You mean, when are Josh, Lucas, and Destiny's wife going to have a threesome?
 
Ten bucks says that Keffals' public image will end up souring by the end of this fall.
There's no way someone can act this irrational and immature without having others think they're just a dickhead.
He'll keep going strong until a real lawsuit materializes in Canada, then it'll start going the Yaniv route, until then he'll just keep doing his ratio shtick and going on MSM unencumbered.

I'm pretty sure Null has enough material and evidence to actually start a lawsuit for extortion, DDOS ( federal crime that he openly stated he intended to happen once Cloudflare dropped Kiwifarms.net), and tort, too. It would basically keep him out of the US out of fear of getting arrested and I believe Canadians can actually be extradited.

Doubt Null is interested on any of that at all, and he wouldn't get anything out of it unless some law firm was willing to do it pro bono to make a point, but it would be funny as hell.
 
Going to chime in here. Also not a Destiny fan, don't know a whole lot about him. I thought his piece was pretty level headed and a pretty fair take on things, nothing that's a deal breaker. I know people are shitting on him for calling Lucas a woman and he probably believes it, but I think he had to regardless. These people will take any piece of wrong-think you've ever had in order to disregard you stating facts. Their entire worldview is built upon lies that shatters with the first critical thought. If they can write you off as a transphobe or a nazi or right wing or whatever, they will.

He definitely is on board with much of the trans stuff, as you said even if he wasn't it wouldn't be worth wasting the effort of the manifesto to take a principled stand on this, he just gives Keffals ammo to dismiss it as transphobic, and it loses all of it's impact. What is most notable to me is that he seems to operate with restraint in these kinds of topics, he rejects most of the neo-pronouns and refuses to use them. He refuses to accept trans women in women's sports which got him kicked from twitch. Most notably that has caused most of the online trans activists to go hardcore against him, calling him a transphobe, and that in turn has caused him to publicly state these people are lunatics, no doubt a pre-cursor to going so hard against Keffals. He's aware of all this, he knows their tactics well, that any mis-step like wrong pronouns or deadnaming will result in an instant excuse to dismiss all his work.

I also agree that it's a deeper problem than mere self preservation, defending KF. He's previously spoken at length about his own deplatforming from twitch, but that he was struggling to reach out to right wing content creators because half the time he debated them they'd be purged. He's gone through a whole arc of speaking to Lauren Southern, Nick Fuentes and others. He's acknowledged that the lefts ability to cancel right wing figures is out of control and basically cancer, so I take his general stance on freedom of speech seriously. I think he's completely genuine when he says that cloudflare dropping KF is scary when it's over some trivial shit, not just for self preservation but because even though he disagrees deeply with people like Fuentes, he still believes he should have a platform.
 
He definitely is on board with much of the trans stuff, as you said even if he wasn't it wouldn't be worth wasting the effort of the manifesto to take a principled stand on this, he just gives Keffals ammo to dismiss it as transphobic, and it loses all of it's impact. What is most notable to me is that he seems to operate with restraint in these kinds of topics, he rejects most of the neo-pronouns and refuses to use them. He refuses to accept trans women in women's sports which got him kicked from twitch. Most notably that has caused most of the online trans activists to go hardcore against him, calling him a transphobe, and that in turn has caused him to publicly state these people are lunatics, no doubt a pre-cursor to going so hard against Keffals. He's aware of all this, he knows their tactics well, that any mis-step like wrong pronouns or deadnaming will result in an instant excuse to dismiss all his work.

I also agree that it's a deeper problem than mere self preservation, defending KF. He's previously spoken at length about his own deplatforming from twitch, but that he was struggling to reach out to right wing content creators because half the time he debated them they'd be purged. He's gone through a whole arc of speaking to Lauren Southern, Nick Fuentes and others. He's acknowledged that the lefts ability to cancel right wing figures is out of control and basically cancer, so I take his general stance on freedom of speech seriously. I think he's completely genuine when he says that cloudflare dropping KF is scary when it's over some trivial shit, not just for self preservation but because even though he disagrees deeply with people like Fuentes, he still believes he should have a platform.
He's a degenerate, leftist scum and a cuck but this is all true. I disagree deeply with his political views but in the end he's a principled defender of free speech like Glenn Greenwald. We need all of the allies we can get, so I welcome his aide.
 
Ten bucks says that Keffals' public image will end up souring by the end of this fall.
There's no way someone can act this irrational and immature without having others think they're just a dickhead.
It has to. Destiny's piece was pretty thorough, evidenced and well-written; there's no chance that someone in mainstream media doesn't cover this (Knock on wood).
 
there's no chance that someone in mainstream media doesn't cover this (Knock on wood).
lmao buddy, how long have you been paying attention to the troon menace? No MSM cockroach is going to do anything that makes a troon look bad. Destiny doesn't have nearly the institutional clout he thinks to get journoshits to do anything—and it's not solely because they're ideologically retarded.

Destiny is some random person online from flyover country without a degree trying to get overeducated leeches who place great emphasis on superficial educational/professional accolades to work with him. They look down on people like Destiny and consider him lesser. Just look at how quickly his irl political activism was destroyed a couple of years ago. Nothing will happen in the MSM from this.
 
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the current love triangle
 
I spend most of my time in Gorlworld and while Kiwi Farms still has a terrible reputation in that sphere (and gets shit on unfairly a great deal) there are Gorlworld commentators on YouTube/Twitter/etc. who defend us, and have been defending us throughout all this Keffals drama. And it has nothing to do with Keffals personally or trans ideology generally. It's because fat bitches love coming for other fat bitches and need us for receipts. And beyond that, there's a lot of rape/abuse/grooming/revenge porn accusations flying around lately and the assholes responsible all seem to be doxed, documented, and dissected in the threads here. This is valuable information and increasingly, Gorlworld normies are starting to see us as an asset when it comes to identifying and avoiding predators. They've figured out that predatory men hide behind the "Kiwi Farms is full of Nazis, don't believe them, don't even go read there, definitely don't listen to them when they say I'm a rapist" line to keep preying on people with impunity. And slowly but surely, as we're proven right about these guys again and again, they start to question whether we're actually that evil after all. Turns out most women are more interested in preventing rape and protecting children than genociding trans women via pronouns. They don't really care what happens on this site outside the Beauty Parlor -- they want to gossip about Chantal's latest fashion disaster and figure out which (cis straight male) YouTuber is a creepy fuck who needs to be avoided. It can be easy to forget that tranny-drama isn't 100% of the content on this site, and I think it's always worth reminding people that it ain't.

Keffals got in the way of this, and in doing so, has woken a sleeping Karen. And while I think this is incredibly funny, it's really minor in comparison to Destiny's little manifesto here. However, I wanted to bring it up here because I feel like it's part of a larger pattern. Maybe we're not going to rehabilitate the Farms exactly, but more people are willing to stick up for us than what Culture War Twitter would have us all believe.

Don't lose the psych war, I guess is what I'm saying. Don't get hung up on the fact that Destiny spoke the language of civility or got the Kiwi Farms creation myth slightly fucked up. Don't believe that the narrative is completely controlled by hysterical sociopaths and that truth doesn't matter. Just don't lose sight of the fact that people -- even people who explicitly don't like us -- are saying, "Hang on a second. That's not true". That's enormous.
 
I always thought they just cynically denied the truth like keffals itself does but no, really, a lot of them are just oblivious tools? huh.
Dude you gotta understand, people who watch keffals are the sort of people who honestly think group watching the same fucking fish video over and over again while Keffals himself is basically dead silent is good content. They're not very bright to begin with. There's also a healthy amount of "believe the victim" mentality in there. Most trans people aren't like, malicious actors who will groom your children like Keffals, they're usually mentally ill saps who fell for it, so when one of their own says "this website swatted me and is full of nazis and you just need to trust me." they genuinely do out of equal parts stupidity and solidarity. Ironically enough keffals has abused the trust of his community by going on this dumbass sperg crusade and getting too big for his britches. He almost had a case, and then fucked it by lying constantly and demanding more and more and more from his supporters. Average troon behavior, but it is funny to see it bite one in the ass in real time lmao.
 
it's not restraint, it's just him being a cuck. submission and deference comes naturally to these types.
No, that is indeed called restraint, and also knowing how to pick your battles.

If he acts like a raging, hysterical idiot then nobody will listen to him, it'll make it clear his opponents are getting to him, he'll lose his platform, people who have a head on their shoulders are aware of exactly how far they can push the line and how to get the effect they want across while giving up the absolute minimum amount of ammo humanly possible.

It's like the dumb shit where people were giving Josh crap when he banned the SIGSEG dude because the fucking FBI itself contacted him. Reality doesn't matter, just openly piss off entities way bigger and stronger than you and turn yourself into a target to prove a point, that'll turn out well.
It's absolute childish thinking of people who aren't ever forced to actually deal with the real world.

Destiny clearly isn't the kind of intellectual his fanbase likes to see him as, but he's definitely not an idiot either, he knows how to navigate and what he's doing.

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There's no love triangle, Keffals isn't a peer no matter how much a segment of mentally retarded users seem to wish he was for some reason that escapes me, he's another unremarkable, disposable fucking loser specimen like the other 1000 dickless wastes of air on the site who just so happened to have been a convenient tool for people who dislike the farms to rally behind.

I don't know what has caused certain people to see this guy as some kind of figure worthy of obsession, but it really makes you wonder.

In fact I've gone so far as to wonder if it's disgusting fucking chasers who like Lucas' specific AGP portrayal of Canadian gamer girl domme with fat man tits, or if they're trannies in the making who idolize him and his position as developmentally stunted hero to crowds of poorly supervised children online? I just don't know how else to explain it. When a crook smashes your car window, you don't obsess over the hammer they used to do it, so why the worship of this guy?
 
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never heard of this dude in my fucking life and I already know all I need to know. Somebody posted two retards fighting.jpg earlier and that about sums it up.
What with all the destiny dick sucking going on in here about how incredibly thorough and accurate the manifesto is and how meticulously worded it is I just can't help but notice that "accusations of pedophilia" is quite deliberately kept separate from the category of "baseless accusations".
 

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