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LORD IMPERATOR said:
People wanting Star Wars-style action are going to be bored shitless, people who want worldbuilding without space wizards will find it interesting.
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I've seen people praise it for that. Tbvh, I mean it is the Imperial era there shouldn't be a preponderance of force users around.
 
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Adamska said:
Imagine intentionally lowering your standards to lie to yourself and snort the digital cocaine laced with arsenic rather than look to other and older sources for entertainment. Reminding me of IGN with the praise for mediocrity.
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"B-But didn't you see the episode that included Easter Egg #6567859? It's all CONNECTED! How does that not make you want to shove Funko Pops up your ass and screech eternal loyalty to the Mouse? GOD! Nobody hates Star Wars like Star Wars fans!!!!!1!"
 
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Shamash said:
I've seen people praise it for that. Tbvh, I mean it is the Imperial era there shouldn't be a preponderance of force users around.
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Unless you make a series about Vader and other Force-sensitive Imperials running around, causing havoc.

But yes, a lot of people praise it for world-building and the lack of lightsaber-wielding space wizards. Critics who have been dunking on Disney Star Wars have surprisingly turned positive on Andor:






At most, I'm interested in seeing the Imperials mucking about and bossing people around, but for the most part, I don't see why all these critics suddenly turned around and started acting like this was the next best thing since sliced bread. It's........OK, I guess? But if I wanted a Star Wars story that's a slow burn, I'd play a Star Wars video game like KOTOR 2 where I can control the action myself.
 
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Mississippi Motorboater said:
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I mean, I won't hyperventilate about this or anything. If an existing location has an aesthetic you can use for your production, it's a hell of a lot cheaper to film there than it is to build a brand new set. As another example from something I'm actually looking forward to, Dune: Part Two had some filming done at the Brion tomb in Italy, which totally makes sense given the aesthetics of the movie, and I'll try to remember to keep an eye out for it when the movie actually comes out to find out where they used it:
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I have no context for how the McLaren Tech Centre is used in Andor because I have better things to do, but from the screencap it looks like they were using it for a spaceport, and it seems to fit well enough. I'd prefer filming in an actual location with a bit of CGI touchup than the greenscreen/rear projection things they usually do for these shows.
 
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Yeah every sci-fi building is a university library or something if it isn't CG and Star Wars can't be fucking trusted with CG.

Shamash said:
I've seen people praise it for that.
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Well, that's what the original trilogy was rooted in back when this stuff was actually good. The Jedi thing is mostly understated: Luke's mostly learning, Ben has his lightsaber on for thirty seconds then dies, and Vader does some spooky magic shit occasionally but that's mostly it until the climactic fights. It's mysterious and talked about more than you see it; everything else that makes up the world and the plot is regular people shit.
Of the EU books I read as a kid I don't think any of them even had Jedi (besides one which I assume did but I can't remember anything besides Leia getting her tits out), they were generally about shit like the entire life and backstory of Jabba's janitor who you glimpsed for half a second in a crowd scene.
Phantom Menace really fucked everything up.
 
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Involuntary Celebrity said:
Yeah every sci-fi building is a university library or something if it isn't CG and Star Wars can't be fucking trusted with CG.


Well, that's what the original trilogy was rooted in back when this stuff was actually good. The Jedi thing is mostly understated: Luke's mostly learning, Ben has his lightsaber on for thirty seconds then dies, and Vader does some spooky magic shit occasionally but that's mostly it until the climactic fights. It's mysterious and talked about more than you see it; everything else that makes up the world and the plot is regular people shit.
Of the EU books I read as a kid I don't think any of them even had Jedi (besides one which I assume did but I can't remember anything besides Leia getting her tits out), they were generally about shit like the entire life and backstory of Jabba's janitor who you glimpsed for half a second in a crowd scene.
Phantom Menace really fucked everything up.
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Then if you're the kind of person who hates how the Jedi have been hogging the camera for decades, Andor is the show for you.
 
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on canon said:
The four galactic arms rotated around this black hole across a diameter of around 120,000 light-years.
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on Legends said:
between 100,000 and 120,000 light-years across, or 37,000 parsecs (a parsec is 3.258 light years)
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(Wookieepedia)

Looks like SW galaxy isn't Andromeda then (with twice the diameter). So the SW galaxy really could be billions of light years away.

I like to think the ET aliens that made a cameo in SW aren't in the same story as in the ET movie, and come from a different place.
 
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Looks like SW galaxy isn't Andromeda then (with twice the diameter). So the SW galaxy really could be billions of light years away.

I like to think the ET aliens that made a cameo in SW aren't in the same story as in the ET movie, and come from a different place.
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It's supposed to be a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. So by our time, it's probably been ages since the Galactic Civil War happened.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I like to think that the SW galaxy is hundreds of millions or billions of light years away, and SW happened millions of years ago. Maybe even dinosaur time or earlier.
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The unpublished novel, Alien Exodus would have established that humans were brought to the Star Wars galaxy from Earth in the 25th century via a cosmic whirlpool that would have also sent them back billions of years in the past.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
I like to think the ET aliens that made a cameo in SW aren't in the same story as in the ET movie, and come from a different place.
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They are the same ones, even using the same planet from both settings and alluding to the extragalactic mission in the novelizations for the prequel. The ET movie just takes place long long after SW, and the Andromeda stuff is never stated outside of the ET novelization Children of the Green Planet book which only has what is implied to be Andromeda as an axis point for a worm hole that takes ET further away to his actual galaxy and possibly back in time by countless eons but that the home isn't Andromeda. I told you all of this before.
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The unpublished novel, Alien Exodus would have established that humans were brought to the Star Wars galaxy from Earth in the 25th century via a cosmic whirlpool that would have also sent them back billions of years in the past.
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It still sort of got published as the Alien Chronicles trilogy, they just toned down the SW connections, but even then a few bits of mainline SW media like atlases still slightly referenced stuff from Chronicles, and then there was the unreleased Supernatural Encounters which solidified the connection had meddling and the Lucasfilm buyout not axed it. And then there was George's Monsters & Aliens book which sort of touches on the same notions (and was what Alien Exodus/Chronicles was slightly based on) but with a humorous twist in some parts, like the Duros section. Only time Star Wars was ever set in the far future was in the earliest drafts for The Star Wars, but even then having SW take place in the future was quickly dropped for the sake of giving it a more mythical tone.
 
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Stop me if someone has brought this up. But since Andor is Empire era and involves intelligence is this a chance for Fagloni and company to rummage through Mike Stackpole's dumpster?

They'll need ISB to. be an issue so we'll get Dave's bullshit OC Yularen probably, and Asohka because now she apparently lives through every damned era of Disney Warz. But as Rebels and Mando proved, no one give a damn about Dave's OC's unless they're coomer bait or played by solid actors like Carano or Bill Burr.

If this follows suit, he's going to need to get a villain who can die and is diverse. Ysanne Isard? Woman. Check. Stronk. Double Check. Completely in charge and beats the boyz? Check, Check, Check. I'm sure we'll get her in blackface, twisted into a caricature of herself.
 
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jspit2.0 said:
Stop me if someone has brought this up. But since Andor is Empire era and involves intelligence is this a chance for Fagloni and company to rummage through Mike Stackpole's dumpster?

They'll need ISB to. be an issue so we'll get Dave's bullshit OC Yularen probably, and Asohka because now she apparently lives through every damned era of Disney Warz. But as Rebels and Mando proved, no one give a damn about Dave's OC's unless they're coomer bait or played by solid actors like Carano or Bill Burr.

If this follows suit, he's going to need to get a villain who can die and is diverse. Ysanne Isard? Woman. Check. Stronk. Double Check. Completely in charge and beats the boyz? Check, Check, Check. I'm sure we'll get her in blackface, twisted into a caricature of herself.
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Hmm, an abusive psychotic black woman who berates and screws over those more competent than herself, getting ahead by sleeping with the boss? Gee, that'll be a wonderfully progressive villain.


They're probably going to do that, I can just imagine it. That or just another generic white British guy.
 
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Traincake said:
Hmm, an abusive psychotic black woman who berates and screws over those more competent than herself, getting ahead by sleeping with the boss? Gee, that'll be a wonderfully progressive villain.

They're probably going to do that, I can just imagine it. That or just another generic white British guy.
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I'm going with option B. You can't go wrong with bad guys that have British accents. Anton Lesser's character is probably going to be the big villain for the first season.
 
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