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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Which neighbors did Russia stomp into the dirt in the last 25 years while the US went around causing havoc around the globe? Saying that NATO encroachment doesn't matter is more than retarded, just like your Sams Club comparison. A better comparison would be you opening the door of your house to your neighbors aiming loaded weapons at you 24/7. NATOs capability of stationing missiles and missile defense systems directly at Russias border is an active threat.
Dear god goldfish have learned how to type. You know the US state directly above Florida? Well there is a country right next to Russia with the same name. There's also a place you might get confused with the Czech Republic except they really like a restaurant called the Aloha Snackbar.
 
All of East EU was destitute, yet with peace and the opening up of trade and diplomacy with the rest of Europe after the 90s, they have become richer and cozy.
Russia is a wannabe empire, it has to offer gibs that are proportional for its alleged "glory", Ukraine has no such pretensions, it just wants to be left the fuck alone so it develops the same way Poland and Romania and Bulgaria have.
Moldova would like that too, but the fucking Russians have destabilized that country and created yet another enclave of separatists that would demand muh human rights and protections from Mother Russia if Moldova wanted to go into the EU or reunify with Romania.
Don't sell me tearful minority stories when the border is nearby.
My ancestors have went through multiple population exchanges, so demographics can be maintained, so ethnic hostility decreases and peaceful, more homogenous societies emerge.
If you don't want to integrate in Ukraine or Moldova, LEAVE. Russia is nearby, bbye.
But Ukraine is not richer and cozy, you are still the poorest country in Europe, sending plebs into the meatgrinder and your women to brothels around Europe while your Oligarchs park their Bentleys in front of 5 star hotels here in Vienna wondering how they can launder the delicious Biden bucks. Russia doesn't give a shit about Moldova or even Transnistria and i highly doubt Moldova would ever want to unify with Romania.

The hostility between Ukraine and Russia has only been there since the 2014 coup, before that there was no hostility, no war and no conflict. Say thank you Obama.

Dear god goldfish have learned how to type. You know the US state directly above Florida? Well there is a country right next to Russia with the same name. There's also a place you might get confused with the Czech Republic except they really like a restaurant called the Aloha Snackbar.

The war in Georgia did not even last 11 days, is that "stomping to the ground" for you? The Second Chechen war was started by Yeltsin and ended by Putin. He ended the war and the Chechens became part of Russia, like dozens of other ethnic groups. Chechens are also the ones currently fighting on the front and will soon be joined by Kadyrovs kids for some reason.

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The war in Georgia did not even last 11 days, is that "stomping to the ground" for you? The Second Chechen war was started by Yeltsin and ended by Putin. He ended the war and the Chechens became part of Russia, like dozens of other ethnic groups. Chechens are also the ones currently fighting on the front and will soon be joined by Kadyrovs kids for some reason.

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"But Moooom it was only a short invasion and bombing! What I can't have a little invasion, land grabbing, and bombing of civillians as a treat? BUT MOOOOOOM!"
 
But Ukraine is not richer and cozy, you are still the poorest country in Europe, sending plebs into the meatgrinder and your women to brothels around Europe while your Oligarchs park their Bentleys in front of 5 star hotels here in Vienna wondering how they can launder the delicious Biden bucks. Russia doesn't give a shit about Moldova or even Transnistria and i highly doubt Moldova would ever want to unify with Romania.

The hostility between Ukraine and Russia has only been there since the 2014 coup, before that there was no hostility, no war and no conflict. Say thank you Obama.
I'm not Ukrainian, I'm East European.
Turns out, as everyone but shitlibs and progressives knew, that defending a country can take a horrendous toll in human lives.
Not having a country is worse, though.
The hostility between Russia and Ukraine is new? You already forgot about that Bandera you've been mentioning?
Russia is "friendly" until you want a divorce. There cannot be forced love.
Eventually, this is a war.
There are two sides.
Are you OK with Russia annexing parts of Ukraine or not? It's as easy as this.
 
Yet its not just Ukraine, its the entire western world funding Ukraine with the most retarded of them joining their foreign legion. The US alone sent more cash to Ukraine than Russias entire annual military budget.
shouldn't have spent 70 years ruining your economy with commie memes building the glorious future of marxist-leninist soviet russian socialism
maybe then the burgers wouldn't be able to casually eclipse your entire annual budget with a handful of aid packages lol
 
I'm not Ukrainian, I'm East European.
Turns out, as everyone but shitlibs and progressives knew, that defending a country can take a horrendous toll in human lives.
Not having a country is worse, though.
The hostility between Russia and Ukraine is new? You already forgot about that Bandera you've been mentioning?
Russia is "friendly" until you want a divorce. There cannot be forced love.
Eventually, this is a war.
There are two sides.
Are you OK with Russia annexing parts of Ukraine or not? It's as easy as this.
Bandera was a nazi collaborator and i can hardly blame the Russians for having a problem with him, even more so, Ukrainians should have a problem with him too. But no, Hohols rather throw anniversary parades for the SS Division "Galicia".



Crimea was part of Russia for longer than it was part of Ukraine and when the democratically elected president in Ukraine was forced to flee the country and replaced by a western puppet regime, Russia took Crimea back with a referendum.
 
Dave Smith should stick to comedy. It looks like he copied all his talking points off of idiots on the Internet.

Yeah I'm sure they're unbiased. Anyway:
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Kevin Barrett: Now we arrive at the issue we mentioned earlier, which is the smoking guns proving that indeed Russia was promised that NATO would not expand even one inch eastward after the end of the Cold War. Willy Wimmer, parliamentary secretary to Germany’s defense minister from 1985 to 1992, has been talking about this.

And then the smoking gun document (above) shows clearly that this was the case. The promise was made, and then NATO quickly broke it—why, I’m not really sure, Alan. I guess they wanted to loot Russia’s natural resources.

Allan Sabrosky: Well, it was the sort of thing where we could do it. There was a drunken lout named Yeltsin as president of Russia, and there was very little we couldn’t do. We plundered Russia economically and plundered it politically. Yeltsin was completely incapable of responding in an effective way to any expansion of NATO beyond its borders. We could do it, and so we did.
As importantly:
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Kevin Barrett: So having credibility by keeping your promises apparently wasn’t even an issue.

Alan Sabrosky: We weren’t a signatory.

Kevin Barrett: Right, it never got signed in blood.

Alan Sabrosky: We weren’t there. It was the Soviet Union, Britain, Germany, and France. Those were the four powers. We were not involved in it.

Kevin Barrett: As I recall, there is evidence of a US promise as well.

Alan Sabrosky: We were an observer. It’s a fig leaf…
Besides in one of his recent vids he points out that he never said that it was in exchange directly for the soviet union collapsing, nor that he said there was a treaty per se. And yeah there was a promise not to go east as pointed out above.
  • Smith says we should listen to Putin's stated words instead of believing what others say his motives are. But Putin's pretext is that Ukraine is run by neo-Nazis who are oppressing its people and committing genocide against Russians, and that the invasion is to "denazify" the country. The reason people don't take his explanations seriously is that they're preposterous.
Yeah that's not exactly what he said at first. Propaganda after the war sure, but if you actually listened/watched the clip he lays out pretty exactly what he meant by that and what exactly Putin had said he wanted. Namely no NATO in Ukraine for one.
  • Smith repeats this new conspiracy theory that BoJo's visit to Kyiv in February was to pressure Zelenskyy to not agree to a peace deal which neutralized Ukraine. Where's the evidence for this? On the contrary, Reuters reports that it was Putin who rejected such a deal, and anyway why would Russia accept Ukraine's promise to not join NATO when it could be reversed five or two years later? This isn't complicated; Putin wanted control of Ukraine and thought he could get it.
Reuters, yeah ok. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2...hy-did-the-west-stop-a-peace-deal-in-ukraine/
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Russia and Ukraine may have agreed on a tentative deal to end the war in April, according to a recent piece in Foreign Affairs.

“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”
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The Ukrainian news outlet Ukrayinska Pravda reported Thursday that British Prime Minister Boris Johnson used his surprise visit to Kyiv last month to pressure President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to cut off peace negotiations with Russia, even after the two sides appeared to have made tenuous progress toward a settlement to end the war.

Citing unnamed sources from Zelenskyy’s “inner circle” and advisory team, Pravda reported that “Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv”:

“The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not. We can sign [an agreement] with you [Ukraine], but not with him. Anyway, he will screw everyone over,” is how one of Zelenskyy’s close associates summed up the essence of Johnson’s visit…

Johnson’s position was that the collective West, which back in February had suggested Zelenskyy should surrender and flee, now felt that Putin was not really as powerful as they had previously imagined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainska_Pravda -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Capital_(company) owner of Ukrainska Pravda

So yeah seems about as much evidence for as against, especially with a local paper giving details. And seriously let me be frank here, calling anything a "conspiracy theory" at this point lends it more credence, not less, you dip.
  • Does Smith think that Montreal is the capital of Canada?
Three million views for this crap.
It's just a big city and an off-the-cuff example. You one of those people who dismisses someone's argument if they have a typo too?

And I want to point out that instead of actually going and looking up any of the people or interviews he mentioned you just threw corporate press bullshit in your post. And do you have no strong opinions about the fact that this war is caused directly by U.S. government meddling? Or are you going to tell me that clip of Colbert is somehow out of context?
 
I see that people are too excited/anxious to hear the updates on Kherson people are talking about unrelated stuff, just like what happened before so many times
There's only two things happening in Ukraine: either A. nothing major is happening thanks to Russian incompetence or B. Ukraine is gobbling up land at a breakneck pace by taking advantage of Russian incompetence. Let us know when something unexpected happens, like the Russians growing a brain stem.
Ah yes, the walls are closing in on Putin, i heard that for the last 5 months. Better send more money to the hohols to prolong a war they can't win.
And for the past five months every Russian shill was telling me that Ukraine was going to collapse any minute now, and that the Euros would display their usual spinelessness and cut support the minute things got harsh for them. Frankly I'm as surprised as anyone else that the German people appear to be willing to deal with the pain weaning themselves off Putin's gas pipe is going to take. If they can make it through the winter without freezing to death, there will be more than enough capacity and supplies from alternative sources by next winter for all their needs.
I didn't even respond to this retarded statement because claiming that Iraq had an organized modern military equal to the US is more than retarded.
And yet in the first month of this non-war in Ukraine we had people in this thread saying not even the USA advanced into Iraq at a breakneck pace. And here we are over half a year and almost 800 pages later with people still making Iraq War comparisons.
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Almost as many people died from blue team fuckups as died to Iraqi fire in Desert Storm. With everything in play in the Gulf only 145 out of almost 900,000 dying to blue on blue or just a random accident like a drunk PFC crashing a Humvee is almost inconceivable in how low it is. Right now I'm sure Russia is in a similar situation in Ukraine regarding casualty causes, but that's not anything to praise Russia over given the losses and the intensity of the combat we've seen.

Now, since I'm autistic and fond of dropping the mathhammer on you faggots, if we add Coaliation KiA (both from Iraq and otherwise) to Kuwaiti ones we get 712. Divide that by the low-ball of 20k dead Iraqis and you get... 3.56%, or 3.56 dead for every hundred Iraqis. If we go by the high estimate of 50k that's 1.424%, or a kill ratio of somewhere around 75 to 1 in favor of BluFor. If we pretend Kuwait doesn't exist, we get 1.46% with the low ball of 20k for yet again a kill ratio of around 75 to 1, and the high estimate gives us 0.584%, or almost 200 to 1 in favor of the West. That's just KiA. Even if we add in Desert Storm Syndrome to get to what, 10k wounded that's still ridiculously in favor of the West, and still doesn't equal the amount of dead Iraqis we forced those tens of thousands of shell-shocked PoW's to count, tag, and bury for us.

But yeah, Russia is totally a superpower and Ukraine is totally going to collapse and Russia isn't on track to rack up a body count over twice what the USA managed in twenty years of overseas deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan in just a year of fighting in Ukraine.
Kek. Ukraine is almost twice as big as Germany and the poorest country of europe, poorer than fucking Moldova and you sit here talking about Russia being poor and corrupt.
And yet, despite being so poor and corrupt, Russia still can't conquer them, and only because their sheer incompetence meant their Market Garden reboot flopped worse than the first one did.
 
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Bandera was a nazi collaborator and i can hardly blame the Russians for having a problem with him, even more so, Ukrainians should have a problem with him too. But no, Hohols rather throw anniversary parades for the SS Division "Galicia".

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Crimea was part of Russia for longer than it was part of Ukraine and when the democratically elected president in Ukraine was forced to flee the country and replaced by a western puppet regime, Russia took Crimea back with a referendum.
You're a motherfucking nigger.
 
Bandera was a nazi collaborator and i can hardly blame the Russians for having a problem with him, even more so, Ukrainians should have a problem with him too. But no, Hohols rather throw anniversary parades for the SS Division "Galicia".

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Crimea was part of Russia for longer than it was part of Ukraine and when the democratically elected president in Ukraine was forced to flee the country and replaced by a western puppet regime, Russia took Crimea back with a referendum.
Don't care about muh nazis discourse, these are just confused ethnonats, of which there are millions upon millions in East EU. I'm not a triggered westoid shitlib that can be swayed and manipulated by some nerd wearing a Black Sun.
Referendums like Russia's are invalid, for good reason. Crimea voted like 55% for independence from the USSR, lowest in Ukraine, but it still wanted out.
You cannot destabilize an area, start shit up, inflame ethnic conflict, occupy it, annex it, have a war that displaces all the enemy ethnic group, then hold referendums with your remaining coethnics.
How stupid you think we are?
As the Elon retard found out with his dumb poll, you cannot go chimpout inside another nation, start losing, and then ask for diplomacy and demand land on top of it all.
Oh noes @secret watcher is back, here come the autistic MATIs lmao
 
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The combined forces already captured all the territory they set out to capture at the start of the war and more.

There are vast areas in two of the four regions and smaller pieces in the other two that Moscow will soon officially recognize as Russian territory that they haven't once set foot in since the war began and there's no sign that will change any time soon, Ukraine took back roughly 5x the amount of territory in September than Russia had gained in the three months prior and are still gaining ground on two fronts.

Are you saying that half of post annexation Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia (including its capital of over half a million people) being in Ukraine's hands was always part of the plan ?
 
There are vast areas in two of the four regions and smaller pieces in the other two that Moscow will soon officially recognize as Russian territory that they haven't once set foot in since the war began and there's no sign that will change any time soon, Ukraine took back roughly 5x the amount of territory in September than Russia had gained in the three months prior and are still gaining ground on two fronts.

Are you saying that half of post annexation Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia (including its capital of over half a million people) being in Ukraine's hands was always part of the plan ?
Personally I'm surprised that all of these people voted 90% in favor of annexation after seeing their homes flattened by Russian artillery barrages and their appliances looted by Siberians. A small price to pay for salvation, I guess.
 
Personally I'm surprised that all of these people voted 90% in favor of annexation after seeing their homes flattened by Russian artillery barrages and their appliances looted by Siberians. A small price to pay for salvation, I guess.

If you believe that 90% figure, you also believe that Joe Biden is the most popular president in US history.
 
For a smart person, Elon is pretty stupid, and history illiterate.
The people can decide.
The border is nearby. They have Russian passports if they are Russian ethnics. If they want to be part of Russia, cross the border.
As for the LAND, the TERRITORY, that cannot be decided while in a war that displaced all opposition by the "will of the people".
Also, Elon would not allow Floridians to vote their way out and destabilize the GAE. Nor would he be OK with white or black ethnostates inside the US.
So why is he trying to push this idiocy? It's obvious he doesn't understand history, war or diplomacy.
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If you believe that 90% figure, you also believe that Joe Biden is the most popular president in US history.
It should be obvious that I find both those numbers and Joe's polling ones, let alone his actual vote count, to bear equal resemblance to reality. That is, I could take a warm drizzly shit on a piece of paper and have any numbers that appear on that be just as honest as any of the above.
 
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I get that you might be young, but you're missing out on a couple of fairly major conflicts in your rush to condemn the us as constant failure. Yugoslavia, for instance. Or the first Iraq war. It was a rout for the Iraqis, sure, but it was definitely a conventional war between relatively closely matched armies, at least on paper. The allies acquitted themselves well enough.
Given that Iraq had to deal with over 200 M270 MLRS (which have twice the firepower of HIMARS), and Russia can barely protect their shit or perform proper counter-bat on 8 fucking HIMARS; comparing the Russians to the Iraqis is almost insulting to the Iraqis.

The same comparison also works when factoring in the combined Coalition air forces the Iraqis had to deal with versus the handful of MiGs and older model Sukhois the Ukrainians have...
 
Given that Iraq had to deal with over 200 M270 MLRS (which have twice the firepower of HIMARS), and Russia can barely protect their shit or perform proper counter-bat on 8 fucking HIMARS; comparing the Russians to the Iraqis is almost insulting to the Iraqis.

The same comparison also works when factoring in the combined Coalition air forces the Iraqis had to deal with versus the handful of MiGs and older model Sukhois the Ukrainians have...
To be fair, that's sort of the point. All these Russian shills act as if Russia is this great strong nation when in reality a breakaway rump state of theirs getting NATO hand-me-downs has not only managed to fight them to a standstill but actively counter-attack and regain lost territory. There's a reason so many people, me included, are half-tempted to let Poland loose on the place just to see how much blood for the blood god they end up shedding on their way to Moscow.
 
You should actually pay attention and you would know that up until now it was mostly separatists and chechens fighting with Russians providing mostly support. Separatists took mariupol, Russians followed behind providing aid and cleaned up. I know americans are not really good at history but you might want to look up the amount of soldiers the russians were able to throw at people if they really had to. Russians never had a large standing army, their military budget is in the low 60 billion, they draft if they need men unlike the US who wastes almost 800 billion a year so a bunch of fat guard and reserve soldiers can claim their vet status by sitting around in a base for a decade.
Oh my God......you're one of THOSE. XD

I never thought I'd meet a special needs kid here, but boy, the amount of copium you're on is too delicious to ignore.

Yeah, sure, tough guy. All those Spetsnaz, VDV, and all the soldiers that attacked Kiev during the opening phases of the war and got annihilated; they were all just separatists and Chechens. XD

No. Most of them were elite Russian forces, and they got their asses handed to them. And now, Putin is forced to call on less-than-satisfactory fighters to plug the gap.

Also, the Russia in the past isn't the Russia of today. I know you're completely ignorant about history, but here's a reminder. The Russian Empire that fought WW1 included Poland, Ukraine, and many other nations that Russia now no longer has. Ditto for the USSR, which had Ukraine and several other nations.

This whole war is Putin trying to rebuild the old Russian/Soviet Empire, and he's failing so bad that he's forced to draft people IN HIS OWN COUNTRY-WHICH HAS LED TO A MASS EXODUS OF RUSSIANS FROM RUSSIA. Plane tickets sell up to $10,000. Google searches about how to get the hell out of Russia spiked after Putin started the draft call.

Many of the units who fought in this war are RUSSIAN-not Separatists, not Chechens, RUSSIANS.

Also, not having a standing professional army is bad. Even if you can draft countless men, WW1 proved that human wave tactics were bullshit. The Russian Empire far outnumbered the Germans in WW1 in terms of manpower, yet the Germans WON THE WAR ON THE EASTERN FRONT. It got so bad that the Communists came to power in Russia, and people flocked to their banners because they were tired of the war with Germany, which THEY WERE LOSING. The peace treaty with the Germans ended with the Soviets giving away a shit ton of land to Germany. And keep in mind, that was Germany fighting a two-front war. So your argument of Russia winning through human wave tactics is hilarious, when the Russians can't even supply these soldiers properly anymore, nor are they bothering to train them.



Why vietnam? Just take Afghanistan as a recent example of american military failure. I have yet to see the american army fight an actual organized army and not just some brown people in sandals with third generation hand-me-down AK's. Americans are really good at fighting likes pussies, drone striking random brown people and then crying oopsie daisy when they blow up a wedding. The wikileaks videos show exactly how tough the US is.
Saddam's military would greatly disagree.

The Americans actually do better against organized armies. The Gulf War, the Korean War, WW2, WW1, the American Civil War, America's armies are designed to decimate enemy positions with superior firepower, which is why it has problems fighting against Vietnamese, Afghan, and Iraqi rebels who mingle with the populace.

To be fair, that's sort of the point. All these Russian shills act as if Russia is this great strong nation when in reality a breakaway rump state of theirs getting NATO hand-me-downs has not only managed to fight them to a standstill but actively counter-attack and regain lost territory.
Russia at this point is just a third-world shithole pretending to be a superpower. But at least most shitholes who pretend to be superpowers are smart enough not to alienate the Yanks, in fact, the smartest ones tend to butter up the Yanks so they can get financial and military support.

So yes, Russia's leaders are officially stupider than the leaders of most third-world shithole dictatorships.

There's a reason so many people, me included, are half-tempted to let Poland loose on the place just to see how much blood for the blood god they end up shedding on their way to Moscow.
Now that would be a sight to see for sore eyes. The Polish are chomping at the bit to slaughter Russians and pay them back for those centuries of subjugation.
 
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