Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

>not buying a 2 year old game on sale or from a keysite

:stress:


plenty of games got an anime adaption for that purpose tho. heck bang dream exists just for that.

No i know..it was just on sale as well. I just got the itchy finger and don't really worry about money. Satisfied a momentary itch that I never really get and the itch was bothering more than anything else.
 
The anime isn't really inconsistent since the cyberpsychosis is clearly a result of faulty mods (Barret's gun arm that Davido retardedly installs) and experimental military-grade mods that he was secretly a corporate test candidate for, which in the last case is so overtuned that it comes with a gigantic integrated med dispenser and they went to extreme trouble to manipulate him into using it just to gather test data after he demonstrated tolerance to the first one.
Just saying; the characters believe the corpo line wholesale but the truth of it still fits with the central conspiracy.
There's also the fact that the main character is obviously suffering from untreated PTSD and a whole host of emotional issues from watching everybody he loves and cares about die, one after another.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: madethistocomment
The state of the gaming industry has been in the shitter since 2012 but the state of gamers, holy shit how fucking fish brained are people?
No Mans Sky is practically a different game at this point but people still shit on it and call it a scam (rightfully at first but i'd give the studio the benefit of the doubt after so many years of putting actual effort into it).

While Cyberpunk 2077 gets a free pass and a standing ovation because they have an anime with a cyber-loli in it. People seem to have forgotten that they completely lied to both the press, the investors, and even lied to themselves internally for months before shitting the game out. The only reason they didn't jump ship on it right away is because they had 5 different people trying to sue them.

They haven't even made significant content updates to it, they somewhat made it stable and added the fucking feint shadows of the features they had promised for 1-2 years pre-release.
Here's the thing; its actually been established in canon that Cyberpsychosis doesn't actually exist as an actual condition. Its a made up term invented by the Corps and the media to explain away people going bonkers for all kinds of reasons, everything from drug abuse, to mental illness, to the installation of bad modifications.
That doesn't make any sense because there are active debuffs you take from it in the tabletop, and likely would have had them in the game too if CDPR devs weren't hiring 70 iq programmers. I don't remember where i read it but cyberpsychosis was essentially Phantom Limb Syndrome turned up to 11. Your brain knows that your limb isn't actually there but it is still somehow receiving signals as if it's there and this leads to a dysphoria, dysmorphia, disassociation, mania and the final stage essentially being psychopathy. All the systems enforce this. Though i wouldn't be surprised if they retconned a bunch of shit in Cyberpunk Red.

Hell the whole genesis of the system was to have something put a cap on how far players can augment themselves.
 
The state of the gaming industry has been in the shitter since 2012 but the state of gamers, holy shit how fucking fish brained are people?
No Mans Sky is practically a different game at this point but people still shit on it and call it a scam (rightfully at first but i'd give the studio the benefit of the doubt after so many years of putting actual effort into it).

While Cyberpunk 2077 gets a free pass and a standing ovation because they have an anime with a cyber-loli in it. People seem to have forgotten that they completely lied to both the press, the investors, and even lied to themselves internally for months before shitting the game out. The only reason they didn't jump ship on it right away is because they had 5 different people trying to sue them.

They haven't even made significant content updates to it, they somewhat made it stable and added the fucking feint shadows of the features they had promised for 1-2 years pre-release.

That doesn't make any sense because there are active debuffs you take from it in the tabletop, and likely would have had them in the game too if CDPR devs weren't hiring 70 iq programmers. I don't remember where i read it but cyberpsychosis was essentially Phantom Limb Syndrome turned up to 11. Your brain knows that your limb isn't actually there but it is still somehow receiving signals as if it's there and this leads to a dysphoria, dysmorphia, disassociation, mania and the final stage essentially being psychopathy. All the systems enforce this. Though i wouldn't be surprised if they retconned a bunch of shit in Cyberpunk Red.

Hell the whole genesis of the system was to have something put a cap on how far players can augment themselves.
I think Deus Ex handles the issue of complications with mechanical augmentations a bit better and is a bit more realistic. That could also be because in the Deus Ex HR/MD timeline the biomechanical implants are still in their infancy as society is divided on their ethics and such. Dunno it just feels like it could actually happen in the near future.
 
Here's the thing; its actually been established in canon that Cyberpsychosis doesn't actually exist as an actual condition. Its a made up term invented by the Corps and the media to explain away people going bonkers for all kinds of reasons, everything from drug abuse, to mental illness, to the installation of bad modifications.
It definitely exists as a real condition in canon. Just because it's real, doesn't mean the corps don't use it as an excuse to merc people they don't like.

Well, how sane do you think your typical Homo sapiens would be on a diet of bug paste and life in pods? Now add in a slow but steady replacement of your own parts with mechanical ones that threaten to make you a literal cog in the machine. Cyberpsychosis is when someone finally snaps at how dehumanized they've ultimately become and begins lashing out at everyone and everything in nihilistic rage. Its like what @robobobo said, you start losing it bit by bit as you no longer feel human, leaving human interaction and human connection as the only thing keeping you sane and centered, much like Robocop. But there's none of that in the world of Cyberpunk.

Unless you're Adam Smasher, in which case you're a borderline cyberpsycho kept in line only by your undying loyalty to Araska for making you a cybernetic demigod and the ability to vent your simmering rage every so often with barely-discriminate violence.
There is a full cyborg like Smasher that managed to retain his sanity through his faith in God as a Roman Catholic. He's an NPC that shows up in part one of the fourth corporate war module.
 
Also the constant bullying he faces from the Arasaka kids at his school even after his mother's death.
We're supposed to believe that in 55 years, a private school in California would ever tolerate someone bothering their token minority. In a believable storyline, not only would David be socially untouchable, the kid's mom would not worry about paying a dime in tuition.

Remember that corporations are the enforcers of diversity in the REAL cyberpunk California. The son of a bigshot exec, even a Japanese one, would be trained to never express a thought against Hispanics. Nor would a kid be picked on for being raised by a single mom.

"The Arasaka Corporation is committed to supporting, cultivating, and maintaining a culture of diversity, equity, and inclusion. All employees and their families must exhibit conduct that reflects inclusion on or off the worksites. Offensive conduct in the workplace will result in immediate termination."

The Cyberpunk franchise, as well as the genre in general, suffers from being rooted in 1980's anti-Reagan paranoia, and the themes were never updated. (This is also why you have paramilitarized EMTs called Trauma Team, who let the injured-uninsured die on the street. In the real dystopia, corporations support Medi-Cal because it socializes benefits they don't want to pay for.)

There's also the fact that the main character is obviously suffering from untreated PTSD and a whole host of emotional issues from watching everybody he loves and cares about die, one after another.
David had the option to finish school, but he knowingly walked away to join the B-movie heist gang. He murdered the mother of one of his classmates.
 
The upcoming DLC has V headed into the even worse parts of Pacifica on behalf of the New USA on some sort of spy mission.
How people thought that it was a spy mission I have no idea because in the trailer V recites the Oath of Office.
Which left me and my friends autistically debating as to how it is gonna be tied to the main game.
 
We're supposed to believe that in 55 years, a private school in California would ever tolerate someone bothering their token minority. In a believable storyline, not only would David be socially untouchable, the kid's mom would not worry about paying a dime in tuition.

Remember that corporations are the enforcers of diversity in the REAL cyberpunk California. The son of a bigshot exec, even a Japanese one, would be trained to never express a thought against Hispanics. Nor would a kid be picked on for being raised by a single mom.

"The Arasaka Corporation is committed to supporting, cultivating, and maintaining a culture of diversity, equity, and inclusion. All employees and their families must exhibit conduct that reflects inclusion on or off the worksites. Offensive conduct in the workplace will result in immediate termination."

The Cyberpunk franchise, as well as the genre in general, suffers from being rooted in 1980's anti-Reagan paranoia, and the themes were never updated. (This is also why you have paramilitarized EMTs called Trauma Team, who let the injured-uninsured die on the street. In the real dystopia, corporations support Medi-Cal because it socializes benefits they don't want to pay for.)
This is cyber punk America, not our America. The 80s aesthetic is intentional, and has remained in place across all editions of the game. Now one can make the argument that this dates the franchise, as the world has clearly moved in a different direction, but at least the newer media is staying true to the roots of the tabletop game.

David had the option to finish school, but he knowingly walked away to join the B-movie heist gang. He murdered the mother of one of his classmates.
David knew he would never truly be able to rise to the top in their society, and if he had stayed, he would have just become a guinea pig to Arasaka. He's was screwed, no matter his choices, which is a very Cyberpunk theme.
 
Come to think of it, how high is the population replacement rate? Like, if we go by what we see, there gotta 10 babies born daily for every body dropped. You'd think they would run out of warm bodies to throw at their enemies.
 
We're supposed to believe that in 55 years, a private school in California would ever tolerate someone bothering their token minority. In a believable storyline, not only would David be socially untouchable, the kid's mom would not worry about paying a dime in tuition.

Remember that corporations are the enforcers of diversity in the REAL cyberpunk California. The son of a bigshot exec, even a Japanese one, would be trained to never express a thought against Hispanics. Nor would a kid be picked on for being raised by a single mom.

"The Arasaka Corporation is committed to supporting, cultivating, and maintaining a culture of diversity, equity, and inclusion. All employees and their families must exhibit conduct that reflects inclusion on or off the worksites. Offensive conduct in the workplace will result in immediate termination."

The Cyberpunk franchise, as well as the genre in general, suffers from being rooted in 1980's anti-Reagan paranoia, and the themes were never updated. (This is also why you have paramilitarized EMTs called Trauma Team, who let the injured-uninsured die on the street. In the real dystopia, corporations support Medi-Cal because it socializes benefits they don't want to pay for.)
That's...actually a really good point. If anything it would probably look like "Equilibrium" except the clerics have to wear different pride flag colors every month or some shit like that. Instead of a vaguely Christian Government doing it, it would be some corporate Oligarchy.


While i say that, Cyberpunk was dated even in the 1980s. The genre in and of itself (while it got it's name extremely late) was a very direct response to the Sunshine and Rainbows Futurism that was prevalent in the 1920s. After a World War, 2 Nukes and the beginning of a Cold War, it was understandable why people might not have had such a positive outlook on the future. It really was mostly aesthetics by the 1980s and surprise surprise, it continues to be mostly just about aesthetics today.

Which is another department the Franchise fails on for me. Everything looks bland. Yeah sure people have lines on their faces now and they wear goofy jackets but there's really not much else.
 
  • Informative
Reactions: quaawaa
How people thought that it was a spy mission I have no idea because in the trailer V recites the Oath of Office.
Which left me and my friends autistically debating as to how it is gonna be tied to the main game.
You mean aside from the fact Night City is an Arasaka-backed independent and sovereign city-state following the moderately successful Unification War? That oath makes V an illegal covert operative.
 
Ready to do this all over again?

c.png
1664897589861782.png
1664897476739090.jpg
 
They can't possibly fuck up Orion as bad as they did with Cyberpunk 2077...right...RIGHT?!

Jokes aside, financially speaking the game was a success so they would be stupid not to milk it. Same with Devil May Cry 2, same with TLOU 2, like 5 or 6 call of duty games, and so on and so forth. The quality of the game doesn't actually matter.

Apologize for double posting but upon looking into it a bit further it appears that the plan by CDPR is to open a studio in Boston and have them be the primary studio working on Cyberpunk Orion. They also have a Vancouver studio so i'm sure there will probably be some involved there by them as well.

There are two options here, either they take whatever US Employees they got left an concentrate them in Boston. The same employees that barely put Cyberpunk 2077 together. OR they start hiring from scratch and give one of their larger IPs to a complete junior team.

We don't even have the title of the game yet and it's already sounding bad. The only silver lining is that they're dumping their shit-ass RED Engine in favor of UE which will probably cut down on dev time and you could probably find people already somewhat experienced in it.
 
David knew he would never truly be able to rise to the top in their society, and if he had stayed, he would have just become a guinea pig to Arasaka. He's was screwed, no matter his choices, which is a very Cyberpunk theme.
For one thing, V on the Corpo track is a guinea pig to Arasaka until he isn't. For another, the events of the last episode have David fulfilling that guinea pig role anyway.

BTW, I suspect the unexpected and (underdeserved) positive reaction to the anime may lead to Rebecca and David being revived in some form.
 
Back