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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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It's tragic that you're the largest country on the planet and you're so unhappy and displeased that you risk nuclear/WW3 for some dumb territories nearby that are not even amazingly rich or w/e, and tiny in comparison with the vast amount of landmass at your disposal.
 
And the fact that Assad used chemical weapons is no matter to you at all?

How do you people keep falling for this propaganda? Even if he did, who cares? How does fighting another desert war (forever) to help some Syrians (who might even have deserved some chemical barrel bombs) help America?

You can't believe these boogeymen statements anymore, you have to stop and be skeptical. They lied about WMDs, they lied about yellowcake, they lied about Iraqis bayoneting Kuwaiti babies out of incubators, they lied about Jessica Lynch and about Pat Tillman. How much bullshit does Uncle Sam need to shove into your melon before you wise up?
 
I know you Putin simps are retards so this isn't for you, this is for other people with IQs above room temperature reading this.

You are being disingenious as fuck. If the US carpet bombing the Taliban produced the millions of mudslimes that Eurocuck leaders failed to keep out, than Russia created that same or worse. Or are we leaving off the Turkic invasion of Germany in the 70s that still leaves the German Government cucking to the Eternal Turkroach because of the number of dual citizens? Which was not the doing the US, btw.
You did not see an influx of Afghan refugees into Europe during the Soviet-Afghan war the way you saw during the 20 year US war. So yes, retardo, you can't compare the two. The Turks are the Mexicans of Germany / Austria and always have been. Are you showing off those great american geography skills or why are turks relevant to Afghanistan?
Russia perpetuated the Mideast forever wars until their shitty economy no longer allowed them to in the 80s. All those fun hijackings in the 70s have a soviet root to them.

Egypt started the Nasserite movement, where Egypt -using Israel as a boogey man- under their strongman dictator attempted to carrot-and-stuck all gulf Arab leaders into becoming little more than Egyptian vassels. Nasser got away with this because of Soviet arms and training; if you wanted weapons, you had to kowtow to Nasser. Russia armed, supplied and trained the Arab armies.

Nasserism lead directly to Ba'ath Party - be ready for the shock here - put the Husseins and Al Asads at the helms of both Iraq and Syria.

So, Russia caused the situation in the middle east that the US was meddling in during the 80s.
And modern Russia propped up Assad to the point the goatfuckers in the east of the country felt they had been marginalized and excluded from the chambers of political power because they worshipped their Child Fucker the wrong way, such that ISIS was able to convince them protracted civil war was a better course of action than being slowly strangled.
The suez crisis in egypt lasted like what, 1 week? Pretty cute how you want to pin an invasion of egypt by Israel on modern Russia. I enjoyed reading up on that war tho, especially how France and the UK cucked itself on the world stage. By the way, who armed the Israeli military to be able to invade? What tanks were they driving again?

If Russia did not help Syria against those US funded rebels, we would have a Libya and Iraq 2.0 without a functioning government. You see how great Iraq is doing right now after the US invasion. Excusing the Iraqi war is one of the most retarded shit i read on here. The first one was based on a false testimony by a 15 year old actress and the second invasion was based on false reports of WMD.
And as the USSR became the Russian Federation without any (successful) coups or foreign invasion or foreign installed puppets, even maintaining their security council veto, either you acknowledge the actions of the USSR are those of Russia, or America is rendered completely blameless every 4 to 8 years when the leader is swapped out.

And Chocolate Jesus arming the sand niggers is a bad call, but that doesn't mean Putin should get to shell civilians seven years later and 2000 miles north. The fact the US should have stayed the fuck out of Syria and just sat back and cheered on the Kurds is not relevant to Russia trying once again to genocide the Ukrainians because "Muh ethnic pockets".
Again, modern Russia is not the same as the communist USSR, since the Soviet Union was made up of more than a singular country. You can't compare that to simply switching a president but the system and government being exactly the same.
Yes, the USSR collapse magically undid six decades of the cultural extermination of the Mongolian people. The fact the base is no longer guarded and now simply littered with unexploded commie-crafted munitions and industrial waste means everything is hunky dory and no one should ever question Russian intentions.
It also magically returned all the mineral weapon syphoned out of the country by the soviets, as well as unimprisons and unexecutes all the people who were trying to keep the culture and language from being completely eradicated.
This is definitely what a rational person who isn't fucking their ass with a Putin life-cast dildo thinks.
Again, the USSR wasn't a singular country, when the soviet union fell it was made up of 15 soviet republics. Modern Russia isn't to blame for shit that happened in the USSR just like modern Germany isn't to blame for shit that the third reich did. The US is very much to blame what the US did in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s

And the fact that Assad used chemical weapons is no matter to you at all? I actually opposed America getting involved there, but it's folly to think that the Assad regime is blameless. There's plenty of reasons why people took up arms against them, and not just ISIS.
Last i checked there were OPCW probes that couldn't prove or determine that chemicals were used in at least 2 of the claimed "chemical attacks". Pretty convenient that there are always chemical weapons of WMD if the US and NATO needs an excuse to get involved in a war.
Modern Russia romanticizes the USSR, sees the USSR as the good guys, and Russia was the most powerful part of the USSR.
And the hohols romanticize the SS and Nazis and the USSR was made up of several republics and no longer exists.
Then how come there's very little support for Russia in Eastern Ukraine now? They're all happy to see the Russians leave. Also, explain to me, if that's the case, why Russia devastated Eastern Ukraine even more than the north, near Kiev? They pretty much fucked that region in the ass before the HIMARS and the Ukrainians started driving them away. Again, why is Russia so severe and harsh with the people they're trying to "save"? If it's not sending them to their deaths like with the Donbas region folks, it's missiles and artillery up the ass hitting civilian targets.
You must have missed the entire civil war in the Ukraine and Ukraine bombing the donbass region with rockets since the 2014 coup. Russia has so far given citizenship to 800k people from the donetsk region and 700k from the luhansk region when they gave away Russian passports and citizenship.

So it might be best that Putin just throws a nuke on Kiev to end it quick, that should be no problem for you since earlier you were crawling inside the US ass for "winning" the war against the Japs by throwing two nukes on civilians.

And how is that different from Russia imprisoning all critics of the war? Even calling it a war can get you in trouble.
I saw people get arrested at protests but not if they just talk shit online. If you are pro-russian in Ukraine, the SBU comes knocking. Or are you talking about CIA stooge Navalny?


You hohol lovers can keep jerking each other off, i have work tomorrow.
 
It's tragic that you're the largest country on the planet and you're so unhappy and displeased that you risk nuclear/WW3 for some dumb territories nearby that are not even amazingly rich or w/e, and tiny in comparison with the vast amount of landmass at your disposal.

This is a naive post, and you should take a break from this thread to study some geography, history and oil/gas reserve reports before coming back.

Ukraine isn't called the "breadbasket of Europe" for no reason. The oil and gas reserves in this area are immense along with access to more ports in the Black Sea. I could go on, but I don't think you've taken the time to read anyone else's posts here to come to that conclusion. How many "dumb territories" have nuclear reactors? SMDH
 
This is a naive post, and you should take a break from this thread to study some geography, history and oil/gas reserve reports before coming back.

Ukraine isn't called the "breadbasket of Europe" for no reason. The oil and gas reserves in this area are immense along with access to more ports in the Black Sea. I could go on, but I don't think you've taken the time to read anyone else's posts here to come to that conclusion. How many "dumb territories" have nuclear reactors? SMDH
Well Russia seems to have a lot of natural gas. We could use that in Europe.
Dear US of A,
Please help us Europeans invade Russia and take its gas extraction fields and facilities. We promise that we will share profits.
XOXO,
Yurop
 
How do you people keep falling for this propaganda? Even if he did, who cares? How does fighting another desert war (forever) to help some Syrians (who might even have deserved some chemical barrel bombs) help America?

You can't believe these boogeymen statements anymore, you have to stop and be skeptical. They lied about WMDs, they lied about yellowcake, they lied about Iraqis bayoneting Kuwaiti babies out of incubators, they lied about Jessica Lynch and about Pat Tillman. How much bullshit does Uncle Sam need to shove into your melon before you wise up?
And what? Join another side that tells even more lies?

"Ukraine is led by Nazis!" (It's led by a Jew)
"Ukrainians are just Russians who have lost their way!" (They would disagree wholeheartedly)
"The Russian Army is the best in the world!" (LOL NO. It makes third-world shithole armies look positively professional)
"Putin is the last hope for Christian Europe!" (His war is killing more European Christians every day on both sides, while he brings in more Central Asian and Chinese migration into his country, mostly Muslims or Commies)

@Ponzo Modern Russia glorifies the USSR, the modern Russian president is a USSR toady, they seek to restore the USSR by retaking all nations that were once its appendages and colonies (LOL Ukraine), and most oligarchs and government stool pigeons in modern Russia have some form of connection to the old Communist Party of the USSR.

Face it, modern Russia is just USSR 2.0.

They pretty much had proof that Assad had chemical weapons, and both sides used them in the Syrian Civil War. Also, Assad's regime drove many people to join rebel groups, and not just ISIS.

The modern Ukrainians voted in a Jew. That's as Nazi as making Hannukah a national holiday.

Again, most of Russia's devastation of Ukraine is focused on the east. They got their asses kicked out of northern Ukraine, and they decimated eastern Ukraine before they were driven out. For a region supposedly full of pro-Russian people, Russia really fucked them over. And with the Donbas region, Russia drafted the men there and sent them to die as cannon fodder. Defending them is the last thing on Russia's mind. Using them as catspaws against Kyiv, sure. But they don't give two flying shits about Eastern Ukraine or its people, and their actions showed that.

Also, if the Russians throw a nuke at Kyiv, the west retaliates with nukes against Moscow and Saint Petersburg.

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See those two population peaks? That's Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Two nukes, and 99% of Russia goes kaput. The rest will be nothing but barren wastelands that China or someone else can claim rulership over.

People get in trouble for merely calling this conflict a war in Russia. And now, Russian men are in a mass exodus from their mother country because they don't want to die in some foreign land.

Well Russia seems to have a lot of natural gas. We could use that in Europe.
Dear US of A,
Please help us Europeans invade Russia and take its gas extraction fields and facilities. We promise that we will share profits.
XOXO,
Yurop
Maybe you idiots should vote out those green party morons who made you reliant on Russian gas and oil, and use coal, nuclear, and natural gas yourselves.
 
Maybe you idiots should vote out those green party morons who made you reliant on Russian gas and oil, and use coal, nuclear, and natural gas yourselves.
We don't have Greens where I live. Only classical libs and socdems.
Also it was a snarky reply to the dude suggesting that if your neighbor has hot wife, maybe you can drink a vodka and smack him over head, take wife for yourself.
Or maybe you don't and act like half civilized primate.
 
Again, the USSR wasn't a singular country, when the soviet union fell it was made up of 15 soviet republics. Modern Russia isn't to blame for shit that happened in the USSR just like modern Germany isn't to blame for shit that the third reich did. The US is very much to blame what the US did in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s
Firstly, Russia constantly tries to tie modern germany to Nazi era. I don't know what you're smoking. Putin's cock

Secondly, Germany was invaded, conquered, surrendered and had leadership IMPOSED on them by foreigners. Even if you did see a repeat of some familiar faces, this was very clearly a break in self rule.

The USSR, of which Russia was one of those republics, collapsed. But there were no foreign troops on the streets, no UN Appointed military governor or caretaker government. Russia, a soviet republic, became the Russian federation continuing an unbroken chain of government back to Lenin.
The current leader of Russia was KGB agent. Biden was never CIA director.

So either the US is exhonerated of actions from before 2020, or Russia is responsible for Soviet action. There is no logical way to give Russia a pass on the socialist collective it lead without saying the US likewise has no responsibility for actions taken before the current administration took power.


The suez crisis in egypt lasted like what, 1 week? Pretty cute how you want to pin an invasion of egypt by Israel on modern Russia. I enjoyed reading up on that war tho, especially how France and the UK cucked itself on the world stage. By the way, who armed the Israeli military to be able to invade? What tanks were they driving again?

If Russia did not help Syria against those US funded rebels, we would have a Libya and Iraq 2.0 without a functioning government. You see how great Iraq is doing right now after the US invasion. Excusing the Iraqi war is one of the most retarded shit i read on here. The first one was based on a false testimony by a 15 year old actress and the second invasion was based on false reports of WMD.
Nasser was in charge much longer than that. Nasserism lasted for decades and even when it was done, the Ba'ath adherents were in charge of Syria and Iraq, and we all know how THAT turned out.
Nasser was fucking around with Israel and due to his own inability to trust his own subordinates for fear of getting coup'ed, found out.
Israeli tanks didn't do much in the 6 days war. Their French Mirages though... whew lad.
But that still wasn't enough to unseat Nasser, thanks to his Soviet backing.

Assad is a repressive tinpot, but he's the leader Syria deserves. No one is arguing for the US to have jack shit to do with Syria. Russia isn't trying to Annex Syria. Stop strawmaning you shrived twink.

You did not see an influx of Afghan refugees into Europe during the Soviet-Afghan war the way you saw during the 20 year US war. So yes, retardo, you can't compare the two. The Turks are the Mexicans of Germany / Austria and always have been. Are you showing off those great american geography skills or why are turks relevant to Afghanistan?
Deepthroat Putin some more, Party Favor.
You didn't just say Afghans, you said Arabs. Stop shifting goal posts. So Eurocucks were opening their borders and assholes for Arabs long before the US did anything. If europe's leaders weren't Eurocucks, they could have turned back the brown wave. But they didn't, they gave them citizenship, housing, money, and directions to the nearest mosque with a fundie cleric. Because Eurocucks.

You must have missed the entire civil war in the Ukraine and Ukraine bombing the donbass region with rockets since the 2014 coup. Russia has so far given citizenship to 800k people from the donetsk region and 700k from the luhansk region when they gave away Russian passports and citizenship.
That's because the retards in Donbas were doing shit like shooting down civilian airliners.

You hohol lovers can keep jerking each other off, i have work tomorrow.
Making more 50-rubel posts? Or is your turn to cup Vlad's balls?

I wish you had a longer post history so I could get an answer to the question of if Sucking Putin's Dick makes you stupid, or if only stupid people suck Putin's dick.
 
Any of the Peggys in this thread arguing that "Russia and the USSR are totally different, guys!" needs to be aware that we in the Western countries have something called the Internet where we can learn that Premier for Life Putin spent his entire early career with the USSR so far up his ass it could flap its fingers and use him as a puppet.

I mean people in the US can bandy about all kinds of unsavory theories about Trump, Biden, or Zelensky, but Putin was literal, actual Soviet KGB in the tradition of Stalin.

I was reading today that after the Holodomor, Stalin ordered a census and the census takers said that there were 15 million fewer citizens of the USSR than expected so Stalin had the census takers shot.

Putin is a lizard person and I'm not sure if anyone has told him that he's losing.

This one would kill 15 million of his own people.


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Watch some wikileaks videos or picture of Abu Ghraib.
Its hilarious that every time you guys want to go "US bad" you screech "Abu Ghraib!" like a broken record. Surely in our twenty years of occupying the Middle East under pretenses that even I will admit are dubious at best there should be a massive laundry list of war crimes, right? Meanwhile what happened at Abu Ghraib was A. less awful than what happens to your typical Russian conscript under dedovschina B. of AFAIK a very limited timeframe relative to our time fucking around there and C. Uncle Sam came down on the perpetrators like a ton of bricks.
That's not what I heard from Germans and Poles who talked about the Russians. Everyone who lived in that time and place pretty much just tells me all about gang-rape of women on Church altars, promises of freedom betrayed, and the kind of shit you'd expect the Huns to visit upon people. I've got no shortage of people from that particular side of the world who can tell me all about what the Russians did to them after WW2.
"The Russian Soldiers Raped Everyone from Eight to Eighty."
You know shit's bad when even the Commie-lovers at The Guardian are writing about it.
Same system, same agencies.
And when Stalin told his wife what his job entailed she remarked "Oh, so you're like the Tzar then." Different government, different job titles, but same shit going on. Putin is yet another Tzar, same as Stalin was. I'm sure that like Stalin and the Tzars, he'd be all in favor of slicing Poland up with the Germans if not for the fact the Poles finally have the military capability to make that a moot point.
You don't have to like America, Niccolo. Many Europeans do not. But it's a large country with an insane potential, and while it is true that there is a lot of social decay and cultural rot within it, it's also true that smaller countries like ours in Central and East Europe don't yet have any alternatives but to be modern vassal states - question is, to whom?
You can seethe, you can cope, you can dilate, but you have to be honest in the end when reality strikes, and 2022 is pretty real for our part of the planet.
Hungary has 9M people, like a large US city. Romania has like 19M, probably 3M of them, nearly all gypsies, living in the West (lul). Croatia has 4M people, lmao.
What expectations should we have of "greatness" with these demographics? Will we invade Turkey and the Middle East, or put Mother Russia in its place?
Of course not, we're just happy to survive and be as safe as possible, transmit our genes, and ensure a national preservation and integrity.
I honestly, sincerely feel bad for you guys in Eastern Europe, since your entire history is either getting teabagged by the more powerful people to the West of you or getting teabagged by the more powerful people to the East of you. At the end of the day you people are going to be under someone's thumb. Might as well be the USA's since our supposed iron-fisted grip of Europe has the French and Germans openly laughing at us and publicly condemning us more often than not.
 
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Every single bad thing that happened to Europe in the last 60 years had one of the US 3-Letter Agencies behind it, not Russia.
It wasn't Russia that invaded the middle east under false pretenses,
fund regime change after regime change that caused millions of angry muzzles to flood Europe.
The soviets literally did this shit. What the fuck are you smoking?
 
New Rybar map just dropped and it's fucking glorious
https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1577414823138459649
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Reminder that Rybar is a pro-Russian source, so the Ukies definitely have advanced even further in Kherson
Remember when Vatniks here were claiming the Kherson offensive was a "failure" less than 18 hours into the operation?

But seriously, with every kilometer taken back, Ukraine pushes closer towards conventional artillery range of the bridge from Novaya Khakova.
Considering the Ukies seem to still have the momentum in the south and most the maps we see are already lagging a few hours, if not days, behind then it stands to reason they will likely hit that sweet spot before the weather turns foul.
 
Remember when Vatniks here were claiming the Kherson offensive was a "failure" less than 18 hours into the operation?

But seriously, with every kilometer taken back, Ukraine pushes closer towards conventional artillery range of the bridge from Novaya Khakova.
Considering the Ukies seem to still have the momentum in the south and most the maps we see are already lagging a few hours, if not days, behind then it stands to reason they will likely hit that sweet spot before the weather turns foul.
Winter is the absolute worst thing the Russians could have happen to them. To draw another historical analogue, we're seeing a repeat of Barbarossa in Ukraine, where a large, prepared force attempted to launch a rapid coup de main against a smaller, disorganized force, with no plans for any real follow-up should success not occur. And the Russians are playing the role of the Germans, and much like in 1940, their opponents are getting everything they need to keep fighting handed to them on a platter by the West. All winter is going to do is buy time for Ukrainian forces to equip, train, and reinforce their lines with reserves, whereas Russia, much like the Germans, are going to be struggling to find reserves of both men and materiel.
 
The man might actually go for a nuclear strike after all.
And he would be signing his own death warrant.

In actual news, to get us off all this arguing with the vatniks, Denys Davydov has excellent news from the Kherson front. It looks like the Russian lines have completely collapsed:

 
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