Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread - Episode III - Revenge of the Ruski (now unlocked with new skins and gameplay modes!!!)

[Ponzo]

Where did I say anything about Murica, whataboutist vatnigger?

Does Russia get to dictate the foreign policy of other sovereign states but Murica doesnt? Why? Because retarded monkeys cant comprehend the rights of others, only that they have a right to what they want simply because they want it? And anything is justified to get it? Just like that other retarded monkey Adolf thought

Because Russia did not dictate anyones foreign policy. The last Russian war lasted 11 days, 14 years ago. It wasn't Russia that slowly expanded towards NATO countries, it was the other way arround. There would be no Uke war if the West didn't fund the 2014 coup. Stop blaming everyone else but the people responsible for the situation.

What would it take for you to not support Russia?
Genuine question.
Is there anything on this planet that could change your opinion on the conflict?
Multiple things that would need to happen? Anything? Or it is all set in stone, a mythical battle to the very end?
Also that avatar is fucking gross, I appreciate shitposting, but holy fuck dude

I don't support either side i just live in reality and im tired of these hypocritical, sanctimonious virtue signaling cunts clutching their pearls as if Putin invaded country after country in the last 30 years and not the US. Nothing Russia has done in the last 30 years had a negative impact on Europe the way the actions of the US had, they supplied us with gas and oil while the US supplied us with hordes of angry muzzles after being displaced from their invaded countries.

Give up and bend over and get raped then. Because you sound like you did such a compromise to survive once in a while.

Raped? I don't live in Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[UVB-76]

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He jinxed it, now Ukraine will seize the plant.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

You get what you support. The war in Ukraine could have long been over without the west pumping money into a proxy war. If it ends in a global nuclear war you can shout Slava Ukraini in your last days on earth. Go out like you lived, virtue signaling.

If Putin does this over Ukraine, he would have done it whenever he ran up against a brick wall to his imperialism.

The idea he stopped and was content at Ukraine when he's high on his own supply and sees himself as a geopolitical genius is naive to the extreme, he would have pulled some shit elsewhere and when someone finally says enough he would have pulled the nuclear card.

At what point does someone say "just let Putin rule the world or all you virtue signallers will have been the ones who caused a nuclear apolocalpyse"? That's the logical end of what you are saying.

In the end it's Putin's fault first, and the cuckoldry of the Russian "people" second. They don't deserve to breathe for letting this man get near the nuclear trigger.

 

[Random Internet Person]

https://twitter.com/juliadavisnews/status/1577483753278083072

 

[AgendaPoster]

I don't support either side i just live in reality and im tired of these hypocritical, sanctimonious virtue signaling cunts clutching their pearls as if Putin invaded country after country in the last 30 years and not the US. Nothing Russia has done in the last 30 years had a negative impact on Europe the way the actions of the US had, they supplied us with gas and oil while the US supplied us with hordes of angry muzzles after being displaced from their invaded countries.

This doesn't work at over 70IQ people.
There are implicit and explicit positions. For example, if RT is only posting news about how the smol, righteous Russian Federation is bullied by the Big Gay Gringos, and ignoring completely USSR/Russia's ventures in Afghanistan, East Europe, Central Asia and Caucasus, it's clear that RT has an implicit goal that favors Russia.
There is almost zero honesty in these discussions and it's frustrating. And this is happening even on a site where nearly everyone is anon and on a VPN, so not even anonymity is enough for people to stop lying.
Whatabouttism is really stupid now. When the US was getting fucked in Afghanistan, you didn't see people reeeeeeeing about Russia's misdeeds.
So what makes this different?
IMO the sheer incapacity to tell anything truthful and continue a line of obfuscation, seething when losing, triumphalism and insult spam when winning is proof of deep bias and quite suspicious.
Most normal people that are just engaging in politics have far more nuanced views and are typically less certain about controversial world events, so they'd change opinions. Yours and others' here seem set in stone, like it's ManU vs ManC or Lazio vs Roma.
Very sus, like somebody else would set a line and it has to be followed even when 50 others tell you you're wrong.

 

[Ponzo]

If Putin does this over Ukraine, he would have done it whenever he ran up against a brick wall to his imperialism.

The idea he stopped and was content at Ukraine when he's high on his own supply and sees himself as a geopolitical genius is naive to the extreme, he would have pulled some shit elsewhere and when someone finally says enough he would have pulled the nuclear card.

At what point does someone say "just let Putin rule the world or all you virtue signallers will have been the ones who caused a nuclear apolocalpyse"? That's the logical end of what you are saying.

In the end it's Putin's fault first, and the cuckoldry of the Russian "people" second. They don't deserve to breathe for letting this man get near the nuclear trigger.

The deal offered to the hohols at the start of the war was pretty simple. Donbass becomes an independent autonomous region and Ukraine won't join the NATO. Should have taken that deal instead of Biden bucks. Speaking of having someone unfit near a nuclear trigger.

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

The deal offered to the hohols at the start of the war was pretty simple.

The terms of deal Russia offered changes everytime some vatnigger seethes about Russia getting its ass kicked.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Rule Britannia.

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[Ponzo]

The terms of deal Russia offered changes everytime some vatnigger seethes about Russia getting its ass kicked.

If by ass kicked you mean controlling more territory than they set out to at the start, then you are correct.

Rule Britannia.

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if there are indeed british boots on the ground people should indeed be worried about this conflict escalating. Putin signed those unification treaties turning Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye into Russian territory. Any attack against those regions would now be an attack against Russia itself.

 

[UVB-76]

It wasn't Russia that slowly expanded towards NATO countries, it was the other way arround.

NATO accepted countries trying to save themselves from Russian invasion.
Framing it as an expansion is a cynical move to remove the context of why countries would even want to be in NATO.

There would be no Uke war if the West didn't fund the 2014 coup.

There would be no war if the Russian puppet didn't start fucking murdering protesters.
If it was just about Yanukovych going back on his promise to move closer to the EU, the protests would eventually settle down. People went into the streets in 2014 because the government became a Belarus-tier shitshow where the glowie units loyal to the president started merc'ing people and torturing protesters they detained, and laws were passed to restrict speech and freedom of assembly.
Declaring it a coup is also technically wrong because it was the government who stripped the president of his powers after he fled the country.

Nothing Russia has done in the last 30 years had a negative impact on Europe the way the actions of the US had, they supplied us with gas and oil while the US supplied us with hordes of angry muzzles after being displaced from their invaded countries.

Russia bombed the shit out of Syria. The millions of people displaced by Russian bombardment in Ukraine is a repeat of their Syrian war tactics.
And do you remember last year's Belarus border stunt? The refugee crisis is in retrospective a pretty great idea for hybrid warfare. It didn't work. Even the Italian right wing is distancing themselves from Putin and pledging support for Ukraine.

The deal offered to the hohols at the start of the war was pretty simple. Donbass becomes an independent autonomous region and Ukraine won't join the NATO. Should have taken that deal instead of Biden bucks. Speaking of having someone unfit near a nuclear trigger.

Why? Appeasing Russia just means they'll come back again. The Novorossiya plans also included the south of Ukraine. You don't remember this, but the "Russian spring" occured in other regions that weren't Luhansk and Donetsk. It just failed so Girkin and his boys had to stick with just two oblasts.
If Ukraine doesn't join NATO, it just gets invaded again. Do you notice how this deal is the perfect setup for a follow up invasion? Trying to pretend that Russia isn't going to break the deal (just like they broke the Budapest Memorandum or Minsk II through proxy) is just feigning ignorance.
The Russia deal means Ukraine's statehood is still threatened. The Biden bucks means that Ukraine can finally buckbreak Russia and resolve a centuries old conflict right here, right now.

Rule Britannia.

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>Michael Tracy
The Soviet Union also sent advisors to North Vietnam. Nobody cares.

 

[AgendaPoster]

Rule Britannia.

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Oh god, Michael Tracey.
Dude's literally the definition of a sperg that has zero convictions other than finding contradicting narratives to the mainstream. At least he did go to the BLM stricken areas in 2020 I believe, actual journalism.

 

[draggs]

Because Russia did not dictate anyones foreign policy. The last Russian war lasted 11 days, 14 years ago. It wasn't Russia that slowly expanded towards NATO countries, it was the other way arround. There would be no Uke war if the West didn't fund the 2014 coup. Stop blaming everyone else but the people responsible for the situation.

I don't support either side i just live in reality and im tired of these hypocritical, sanctimonious virtue signaling cunts clutching their pearls as if Putin invaded country after country in the last 30 years and not the US. Nothing Russia has done in the last 30 years had a negative impact on Europe the way the actions of the US had, they supplied us with gas and oil while the US supplied us with hordes of angry muzzles after being displaced from their invaded countries.


Raped? I don't live in Al-Mahmudiyah, Iraq.

Now the vatnigger simply denies reality, Russia didnt try to dictate Ukraine's foreign policy uh huh. I guess the US didnt try to dictate Iraq's foreign policy then invade because Saddam wouldnt bend the knee either

Russia isnt getting its ass kicked lol why did retard monkey call up 300k more soldiers then? Because the war was going so great?

 

[Random Internet Person]

Oh god, Michael Tracey.
Dude's literally the definition of a sperg that has zero convictions other than finding contradicting narratives to the mainstream.

Can’t you say that about a lot of people these days?

 

[Ponzo]

NATO accepted countries trying to save themselves from Russian invasion.
Framing it as an expansion is a cynical move to remove the context of why countries would even want to be in NATO.

They are more likely to be invaded by the US than Russia.

There would be no war if the Russian puppet didn't start fucking murdering protesters.

Except he didn't. The former estonian foreign minister was recorded explaining to the EU foreign policy chief that the "protester" aka banderites were the ones shooting at both the cops and the protester to escalate the protest and the new regime refused to investigate.

If it was just about Yanukovych going back on his promise to move closer to the EU, the protests would eventually settle down. People went into the streets in 2014 because the government became a Belarus-tier shitshow where the glowie units loyal to the president started merc'ing people and torturing protesters they detained, and laws were passed to restrict speech and freedom of assembly.
Declaring it a coup is also technically wrong because it was the government who stripped the president of his powers after he fled the country.

It was a western funded coup because many of these violent protesters were not even Ukrainian. I suggest you watch the video above.

Russia bombed the shit out of Syria. The millions of people displaced by Russian bombardment in Ukraine is a repeat of their Syrian war tactics.
And do you remember last year's Belarus border stunt? The refugee crisis is in retrospective a pretty great idea for hybrid warfare. It didn't work. Even the Italian right wing is distancing themselves from Putin and pledging support for Ukraine.

Russia bombed the shit out of ISIS and US funded and trained rebels. Russian forces were invited by Assad to assist the Syrian military, the US was there because the US does not respect any borders themselves. Thats why to this day they bomb and drone strike targets in countries they are not at war with. Whos going to sanction the US? Exactly.

Why? Appeasing Russia just means they'll come back again. The Novorossiya plans also included the south of Ukraine. You don't remember this, but the "Russian spring" occured in other regions that weren't Luhansk and Donetsk. It just failed so Girkin and his boys had to stick with just two oblasts.
If Ukraine doesn't join NATO, it just gets invaded again. Do you notice how this deal is the perfect setup for a follow up invasion? Trying to pretend that Russia isn't going to break the deal (just like they broke the Budapest Memorandum or Minsk II through proxy) is just feigning ignorance.
The Russia deal means Ukraine's statehood is still threatened. The Biden bucks means that Ukraine can finally buckbreak Russia and resolve a centuries old conflict right here, right now.

Russia had an agreement with the Ukrainian government, the same one that was overthrown and the democratically elected president forced to flee the country. Russia did not sign the budapest memorandum with an unelected, installed puppet regime.

Now the vatnigger simply denies reality, Russia didnt try to dictate Ukraine's foreign policy uh huh. I guess the US didnt dictate Iraq's foreign policy by invading because Saddam wouldnt bend the knee either

Russia isnt getting its ass kicked lol why did retard monkey call up 300k more soldiers then

Sadam wasn't ruling a country on the US border threatening to join a pact that would put missiles on the US border. Russia never had a large standing army, their military budget is 60 billion compared to the almost 800 billion of the US. Russians have always conscripted soldiers when they needed to.

 

[Mr E. Grifter]

Can’t you say that about a lot of people these days?

There's a video of Michael Tracey getting wrestled to the floor and pinned to the floor by police, and he's shrieking. I watch it semi regularly.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

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Can i get link to that video full not cut out of context ? Because so far they said Putin threatening with nukes while the transcripts of his speech basically saying we have nukes too if they try that . I am tired of copy paste messages with no links. I mean if you want to do propaganda claiming russia is done for 400th time in a row like the past 7 months or so at least post something that isnt a screenshot of a chat somewhere and zero videos from russian tv .

 

[draggs]

They are more likely to be invaded by the US than Russia.

Except he didn't. The former estonian foreign minister was recorded explaining to the EU foreign policy chief that the "protester" aka banderites were the ones shooting at both the cops and the protester to escalate the protest and the new regime refused to investigate.

It was a western funded coup because many of these violent protesters were not even Ukrainian. I suggest you watch the video above.

Russia bombed the shit out of ISIS and US funded and trained rebels. Russian forces were invited by Assad to assist the Syrian military, the US was there because the US does not respect any borders themselves. Thats why to this day they bomb and drone strike targets in countries they are not at war with. Whos going to sanction the US? Exactly.

Russia had an agreement with the Ukrainian government, the same one that was overthrown and the democratically elected president forced to flee the country. Russia did not sign the budapest memorandum with an unelected, installed puppet regime.

Sadam wasn't ruling a country on the US border threatening to join a pact that would put missiles on the US border. Russia never had a large standing army, their military budget is 60 billion compared to the almost 800 billion of the US. Russians have always conscripted soldiers when they needed to.

I missed the "you border us and we are stronger than you so we get to tell you what to do if we say we feel threatened by you" codicil to international relations

Of course such a codicil does not exist, Russia has no more right to dictate to Ukraine than it does to Peru

Does Ukraine get to dictate to Russia? Russia borders it, Ukraine obviously has security concerns re: Russia. If not, why not? Because Russia is stronger? Well maybe it isnt lol, but anyway the United States is stronger than Russia, and Russia and America are right beside each other up in the Arctic, and the US obviously has security concerns re: Russia... so Russia should get on its knees and suck America's balls if America says so, right? Their situation checks all the boxes that you say justifies what Russia is doing to Ukraine. So America necessarily would also be justified if it wanted to do to Russia what Russia is doing to Ukraine. Oh, your standards are changing now? What a surprise

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

If by ass kicked you mean controlling more territory than they set out to at the start, then you are correct.

Russia set out to take Kiev, so no, they do not control more territory than they intended to at the start.

It seems the intended areas of occupation also change everytime a vatnigger seethes about Russia getting its ass kicked.

 

[Fraiser crane]

Rule Britannia.

Thread by @mtracey on Thread Reader App

@mtracey: There are British "boots on the ground" in Ukraine, but no one in Britain seems at all curious about this, nor does anyone in the US, even though British forces are virtually always a functional subsidiary...…

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If by ass kicked you mean controlling more territory than they set out to at the start, then you are correct.

if there are indeed british boots on the ground people should indeed be worried about this conflict escalating. Putin signed those unification treaties turning Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson and Zaporozhye into Russian territory. Any attack against those regions would now be an attack against Russia itself.


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Moron
They've been there for ages and Russia is no doubt aware