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I'm well aware of MAD. I lived through enough of that shit show.Once one side's nukes fly, they all fly, all over the world. Jet Fuel Johnny explained earlier what nuclear doctrine is for both sides and what MAD means, you should read it,
On top of that, the Bucha "massacre" that the Ukrainians totally did not set up had occurred recently.He flew over to Ukraine directly and had talks with the Ukrainians, whatever was said is speculation but Ukraine pulled out of the peace talks the next day.
No one fucking cares, they can have it, because nuking the planet is not worth that dump or any other piece of real estate on this earth. My position is missing nothing except a suicidal death wish.Your argument is missing a small point, though: Russia has been the one threatening nukes, for months at this point. Russia is the instigator. Russia is the invader. Tell them to stop talking shit.
But still no vaults.We are in the Fallout timeline.
- China causes a new plague
- Out of control inflation and consooming
- Energy crisis which is particularly bad in Europe
- US has become a corrupt, amoral kakistocracy where anarcho-tyranny reigns
Raven Rock is real, but there are several just like it all over the US.But still no vaults.
Though, I think that's more of a good thing. Probably secret vaults for the ultra elite.
I meant more of the civilian vaults. Wouldn't put it past these "people" to have vaults to torture civilians for their entertainment.Raven Rock is real, but there are several just like it all over the US.
The world has 12,700 nukes. If 99% of those are duds, that's still 127 functioning nukes. And those are just the ones we know about.i swear, we had a conversation just like this when the war started
chances of the nukes going off are extremely low due to a variety of reasons
Only thing that changed is it went from Putin waving his nuclear dick to all sides doing it. Massive game of chicken.
FTFY. The Day After is pussy shit.They should rebroadcast threads.
The lucky ones were instantly vaporized and they left a permanent impressionIt's really just mind boggling how retarded we've become about war and it's nastier aspects. I think it's some weird combination of propaganda, dumbass ideas gathered from Hollywood, and decades of soft men who have no real experience with the true horrors of war.
It's not a picnic, it's not a call of duty mission, there are no respawn points or plot armor or any Deus ex machina. And nuclear war? Whew boy. You and Bone outlined some of the finer points but the reality is we still have no fucking idea exactly the depth of horror that would await. Nukes have only been used in war twice and those comparatively low yield (compared to today's bombs which are measured in units of 'hiroshimas') bombs fucked Japan up even in an era before everything was dependent on computers and when people were generally more healthy anyway.
Simply put one of the fear mongering antiwar drumbeats that does actually have roots in truth is an all out nuke war would likely spell the end of modern civilization on earth. We might not even survive because the sheer amount of fallout and aftereffects might bottleneck the population enough that we couldn't bounce back.
And with nukes it's like you said, as soon as one gets launched, everyone is gonna launch them. And unlike the GI Joe movie where that was a plot point, they almost certainly won't be in some big room where someone can convince them all to abort the launch sequences.
Where I grew up it was actually a running joke, "idk why people here used to fear the cold war, no one's gonna waste a bomb on this shithole". Then I actually grew up and realized why that was stupid, because even if we could hide away in the mountains like fucking mole men, living after that shit would be virtually impossible as nuclear winter and other fallout effects rendered hunting, fishing and farming inviable.
That is why diplomacy exists. Eventually, you're going to reach the point of no return if you boast your bravado.I'm well aware of MAD. I lived through enough of that shit show.
Your argument is missing a small point, though: Russia has been the one threatening nukes, for months at this point. Russia is the instigator. Russia is the invader. Tell them to stop talking shit.
Nah, The Day After still literally gives me recurring nightmares.FTFY. The Day After is pussy shit.
Nah, It has its moments...and it has Steve motherfuckin' Gutenberg. There's several good ones, and they all have their own place. I have a few more on an external drive somewhere. The return to monke movies got me hooked on the genre as a lad, and so I pirated these in my younger days. I even kept the shitty later monke movies, just for completion sake. Fuck the remakes, though.FTFY. The Day After is pussy shit.
Another scary realization:Oh my fucking god.
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PUTIN WOULDN’T HAVE TO NUKE US IF BIDEN ACTUALLY SAT DOWN AND NEGOTIATED WITH HIM INSTEAD OF WARMONGERING TO PLEASE THE MIC. MY GOD, THE LIVES OF BILLIONS ARE AT STAKE HERE. CAN YOU PUT ASIDE YOUR PARTISAN PRIDE FOR 5 FUCKING MINUTES?!
You know the saying, politics is only one step removed from culture. Culture as we know it is fubar with this troon shit infecting everything.We are in the Fallout timeline.
- China causes a new plague
- Out of control inflation and consooming
- Energy crisis which is particularly bad in Europe
- US has become a corrupt, amoral kakistocracy where anarcho-tyranny reigns