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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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YouTube appears to have demonetized practically all channels covering Ukraine war:



Some people speculate it could be driven by MSM going after competition. I don't know.
this has happened to several channels i watch for news.
what's curious is that it hit vatnik channels and ukrop channels at the same time, it doesn't seem to be an effort to crack down on one side in particular, more like an attack on independen commentary in general.
 
Apparently they scan vehicles going onto the bridge.

The vatniggers claim that vehicles are only scanned on one side and while that is unfathomably stupid by Western standards, it's completely believable that Russian authorities would skim on security.

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Maybe this is a foil hat time but I could see a big old truck packed with explosives coming from the Russian side and the Russians being like "Why are you driving a truck full of explosives?" and the man being like "For the war effort, comrades!" and the cops just waving him through.
 
Maybe this is a foil hat time but I could see a big old truck packed with explosives coming from the Russian side and the Russians being like "Why are you driving a truck full of explosives?" and the man being like "For the war effort, comrades!" and the cops just waving him through.
Envelope full of cash may or may not have helped to alleviate their concerns.
 
YouTube appears to have demonetized practically all channels covering Ukraine war:



Some people speculate it could be driven by MSM going after competition. I don't know.
This is appalling even for YouTube, and these guys don't have the clout Nick Rekieta has. Maybe he can help migrate them over to Rumble. I suppose YouTube might reverse tomorrow (like they did for Rackets) since it may have been one of their dumb-ass AIs that did this.

Styx claims in his latest video that Putin is still only sending his worst troops to Ukraine. In fact, many of the Russian soldiers are probably enemies of Putin's regime, who have been identified by Putin's very efficient intelligence service. Eventually, Putin's penal battalions are going to retreat to the new 'Russian' territories, and then Putin will blast the pursuing Ukrainians with thermobaric weapons. The only reason he hasn't done so yet is that the Ukrainian units in 'Russia' are not large enough. A masterful plan, just like the attack on Kyiv, which Styx also still believes was a feint.
I'd honestly forgotten about Styx. I don't understand why so many of these commentators with obviously no military background think their gay opinion is worth shit. This thermobaric scenario reads like science fiction.
 
I never get the claim that Russia is sending their worst troops.
I have one simple question: Why?
Why would you use your worst troops, the worst weapons and/or tanks in an invasion?
What do you gain from that? Sure, you get rid of your old stuff, but there are better way to do that (sell it to morons, recycle them for scrap etc).
What do you gain from sending in your worst troops either? Nothing. you gain nothing and the enemy gets everything.
This is not a damn video game.
It is war.
People that convinced themselves over the years that Russia was a battle hardened power are really reluctant to give up that view of Russia's military.

No matter how pathetic Russia's military appears to be they're reluctant to just accept that they had been wrong for years. I think a large part of this is they believe the US military must be incredibly weak because of all the woke shit, so a country that doesn't have it must be better.

It also may help to have social media giving people a better idea of how the US military is and how distant it is from the imaginary honorable soldiers that some Americans had. Whereas with Russia, so long as you don't understand Russian, you can dream its military is just as badass as their propaganda likes to pretend it is. Mix in a bit of ignorance about what equipment like HIMARS are and you can even turbocharge that pro-Russia mindset as they cheer on Russia bombing empty vans that were technically part of the team of vehicles known as HIMARS.
 
This is appalling even for YouTube, and these guys don't have the clout Nick Rekieta has. Maybe he can help migrate them over to Rumble. I suppose YouTube might reverse tomorrow (like they did for Rackets) since it may have been one of their dumb-ass AIs that did this.


I'd honestly forgotten about Styx. I don't understand why so many of these commentators with obviously no military background think their gay opinion is worth shit. This thermobaric scenario reads like science fiction.
Those conscripts are patently all Putin has spare. A lot of experienced troops were blown on that dash for Kyiv, including many dropped in places where they were unsupported. Putin appears to have believed for certain Zelenskiy would flee. Sending any more fully equipped and trained (which in the Russian context is elite) troops means peeling off his praetorians and enforcers (VDV veteran associations acted as extra muscle in political situation on the street) and he won't do that. Putin appears set to fight to the last Russia. Even without US help, countries nearby with an ancient blood feud with Russia (like Poland) could keep it going.


US vet comments on UA GoPro vids in this case a convoy with a Tigr destroyed.


Same, on the Kerch bridge incident.
 
It looked like there was evidence of something going on underneath the bridge (or just people hallucinating there is), so I’m curious if it genuinely was a car bomb or if someone just got some scuba gear on to swim over and plant explosives underneath.

Either way it looks like an act that wouldn’t have required a vast number of people.

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I didn't see this posted yet, but Sergey Surovikin has been promoted to commander of all Russian forces in Ukraine.
This is notable because Surovikin was the commander of troops in Southern Ukraine from July to now, and he participated in the Sovet-Afghan war, the Syrian Civil War and was the only commander during the August Coup of the Soviet Union that shot and killed protesters. It's considered that his appoint is finally "le gloves are off" which was also said about the "Butcher of Syria" when he was appointed as commander. It's to be seen if Surovikin can break the stalemate in the south or win any major victories for Russia in Ukraine, which has not been seen since the fall of Mariupol in May.
As far as I know, he was not the commander in charge of either the victories of Kherson or Mariupol and if he wasn't able to break the stalemate in the south during his 4 month time there, it's not certain if he will break it now as commander of the entire operation. Really, what this means is there will likely be more war crimes committed by Russia in Ukraine in an attempt to stamp out resistance in both Ukraine and Russian-occupied territories, since this is a clear response to the bombing of a bridge in Crimea.
 
I didn't see this posted yet, but Sergey Surovikin has been promoted to commander of all Russian forces in Ukraine.
This is notable because Surovikin was the commander of troops in Southern Ukraine from July to now, and he participated in the Sovet-Afghan war, the Syrian Civil War and was the only commander during the August Coup of the Soviet Union that shot and killed protesters. It's considered that his appoint is finally "le gloves are off" which was also said about the "Butcher of Syria" when he was appointed as commander. It's to be seen if Surovikin can break the stalemate in the south or win any major victories for Russia in Ukraine, which has not been seen since the fall of Mariupol in May.
As far as I know, he was not the commander in charge of either the victories of Kherson or Mariupol and if he wasn't able to break the stalemate in the south during his 4 month time there, it's not certain if he will break it now as commander of the entire operation. Really, what this means is there will likely be more war crimes committed by Russia in Ukraine in an attempt to stamp out resistance in both Ukraine and Russian-occupied territories, since this is a clear response to the bombing of a bridge in Crimea.

This retard will fail as badly as any other russian general because they are commanding a poory equppied third-world army of backward inbreds who don't want to fight for a country that gives them a terrible standard of living. Western weapons and intel will utterly decimate anything he tries to do and he'll be replaced by another one of Putins best buddies who will also fail horribly for the same reasons.

This is just a meat grinder for Russia at this stage. Vlad will keep threatening to use nukes whilst not actually doing it because he knows most of them will just detonate in their silos/crash land 10km away from their launch-point because they have been neglected since the 1960s like everyhting else in this commie shithole. The west will pump billions into arming the Ukes whilst pretending they don't also have boots on the ground in this conflict.

This entire thing was a dumbfuck move from Putin and he is just too much of a retard to admit his country hasn't been relevant on the world stage for decades. Their entire play is that they are a major gas supplier. That's it. When Europe finds a way around that then they have nothing.
 
Just checking if we are still singing our praises for Ukraine given recent events.

Seems like most still are.

Man, I wonder how badly this thread will age in due time...
It will age better than all the threads with retards who were singing Russia's praises and calling Putin some kind of 4-D chessmaster.
 
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They aren't hitting empty fields. Or I should say, the fields they are hitting aren't Meadow Wilderness, these are people's homes and farms.

If I'm a farmer, and my field is where Russia decided to keep wasting soviet-era ordinance in 2022, I'm probably going to be spending all of 2023 digging out shrapnel, calling the Ukraine EOD for unexploded shells, and and filling craters instead of growing crops.
If a Russian shell finds my house, my house still unlivable and in splinters.
All of those things are problems for the future, but for the immediate present, they are immaterial. Nobody is going to come back to those farms while they are still on the frontline anyway, and probably not till the war is over. So none of this matters right now.

Also, barrel wear only matters if you intend to have your artillery fire be accurate, which we have established Russia doesn't care about.
Which is Russia's problem. They should care, because they almost certainly don't have the capacity to replace thousands of destroyed artillery barrels.

But a good chunk of Ukraine's success owes more to Russian incompetence than any brilliance by the Ukrainians. All Russia has to do is stop punching itself in dick, and Ukraine's mission of evicting them from Ukrainian soil gets exponentially harder.
I don't think we should undersell the actual strategic ability of Ukraine. The feint that preceded their retaking of most of the occupied land in the Kharkov region was tactically and strategically brilliant, and one of the best strategic victories of the entire war. We also cannot forget that Ukraine is being directly supported by U.S. military advisors, who are directly aiding and assisting the Ukrainian high command, and they are far better military commanders than anyone Russia has at the moment.

A Russian factory is shut down because of lack of materials; as soon as you find an alternative source you can get it back into operation.
A Ukrainian factory is shutdown because the heavy equipment is damaged. You have to get new equipment shipped in, and you can't really do that until the threat is over.
You forget two things:
1) The Russians aren't going to get those raw materials because they are cutoff from the global economy and nobody wants to run afoul of American embargoes.
2) Ukraine is already importing most of, if not all, its equipment from the west, so any lost industrial capacity is immaterial.

6 or so months is a long time, and people in northern Europe will be getting their higher energy bills during that time. Its one thing to say "Fuck Putin, Slava Ukraine!" while the talking heads go on about gas supplies, and another thing entirely to see a 600 Euro faggotdollar gas bill and then you start to wonder if Kherson being Ukrainian or Russian really matters all that much.
Right now the messaging is good, they are getting out WWII rationing "You are suffering, but there is a purpose" communications. But the longer the conflict goes on, the more likely people will get tired of it. Time is not a Ukrainian ally.
Europeans are not going to run back to Russia for their energy needs; that ship has sailed, and everybody sees how stupid it is to rely on the Russians for anything now, so that will probably be a permanent change. A more likely scenario is that Europeans realize that this going green bullshit is just that, bullshit, and demand that their countries reinvest in their own domestic energy production, such as bringing their nuclear power plants back online.
 
Some people speculate it could be driven by MSM going after competition. I don't know.
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Turns out it was just yotube being retarded. How the fuck they managed to accidentally demonetize a whole shit ton of channels, across the content spectrum, I'll never know. That being said it wouldn't surprise me if there was an actual crackdown on war shit in the future.



Just checking if we are still singing our praises for Ukraine given recent events.
Genuinely curious what recent events you're referring to here given Ukraine has consistently being shitting on Russia recently.
 
if you could claim contribution to some major event in the war (a bridge blowing up for example) would you?
(not necessarily a public claim, just a claim that you had some contribution)
How much do I have to contribute in order for it to count? There's a difference between cheering them on on Twitter, donating something that might potentially go towards buying the bomb, and actually planting the bomb, to use your example
 
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