r/antiwork - Yes, it's exactly what it sounds like.

[George Floyd Sneed]

I dunno mang, I was really shocked at how incompetent they were with even the basic engineering principles they supposedly got a doctorate in. Our interns from pozzed universities were running circles around them. Of course, once they got a sense I was less than satisfied with their work, they ran to the nearest HR rep to whine that I had a burning hatred for the Chinese.

I could have dealt with a bad bunch of them but my impression, which only crystallizes with time, is that they are a headache to deal with since they lie about their skill set so you never truly know what kind of work product they’ll deliver and for someone with busy schedules, who has time for that shit.

 

[Shaka Brah]

I dunno mang, I was really shocked at how incompetent they were with even the basic engineering principles they supposedly got a doctorate in. Our interns from pozzed universities were running circles around them. Of course, once they got a sense I was less than satisfied with their work, they ran to the nearest HR rep to whine that I had a burning hatred for the Chinese.

I could have dealt with a bad bunch of them but my impression, which only crystallizes with time, is that they are a headache to deal with since they lie about their skill set so you never truly know what kind of work product they’ll deliver and for someone with busy schedules, who has time for that shit.

This is definitely true. There's no way to check the credentials of a foreign hire because the positions they're hired into are explicitly designed for people to lie their way in. The metaphorical 8 years in a 5 year old programming language is a way of cheating the H1b visa system and its hire local clause, since American applicants can't lie as easily about their qualifications. A foreign engineer can only be brought in if a local one can't be found. Companies make absurd requirements to ensure that local engineers can never be found, and foreigners lie to fill them and are hired instantly for the cost savings.

 

[Fapcop]

I dunno mang, I was really shocked at how incompetent they were with even the basic engineering principles they supposedly got a doctorate in. Our interns from pozzed universities were running circles around them. Of course, once they got a sense I was less than satisfied with their work, they ran to the nearest HR rep to whine that I had a burning hatred for the Chinese.

I could have dealt with a bad bunch of them but my impression, which only crystallizes with time, is that they are a headache to deal with since they lie about their skill set so you never truly know what kind of work product they’ll deliver and for someone with busy schedules, who has time for that shit.

Nah, I’m sure there are plenty of shit engineers, but again: You don’t need them super skilled. Just able to keep simple shit running, fix it when something breaks, and supervise the menial workers.


And there are actual skilled engineers as well. (Fuckers have been learning man. Letting American companies set up shop in China and steal their IP was great for China and a major fail on America’s part.

You can hand over the specifications and requirements and have a prototype in a few weeks. That kind of turnaround time is impossible in the US.

 

[Notgonnalie]

Wooot! USA! USA!

SEE?!? We didn’t need no stinking Trump or making America great!

Over 600 THOUSAND manufacturing businesses!

Lemme see that page to bask in the glory of AMERICAN LABOR!

“However, establishments that transform materials or substances into new products by hand or in the worker's home “

Oh? Does that include my Etsy bead necklace business?

“and those engaged in selling to the general public products made on the same premises from which they are sold, “

Oh dear! Guess it does!

“such as bakeries, candy stores, and custom tailors, may also be included in this sector.”

Welp, guess a bakery visit can be educational too!

There is a breakdown of different types of manufacturing businesses if you look further. The point remains that most of those businesses are not stay at home moms doing side gigs, and you know it.

 

[supremeautismo]

Redditor asks for a month off from a job he just started, and is surprised when the company asks him to resign. Other Redditor informs naïve Redditors that resigning instead of waiting to be fired excludes you from unemployment money.



... After he took off a week and a half from work (that he started a month ago.) Because he “doesn’t like to work.”



All those updoots surely must mean this poor Redditor is oppressed by Capitalism. Luckily there is some sense in the comments.

 

[Caesare]

Other Redditor informs naïve Redditors that resigning instead of waiting to be fired excludes you from unemployment money.

Dummies. Resigning would allow him unemployment all the same... if he had worked there more than a month. You don't get unemployment for working somewhere a month. IIRC, it's six months.

 

[Puerto Pollo]

Redditor asks for a month off from a job he just started, and is surprised when the company asks him to resign. Other Redditor informs naïve Redditors that resigning instead of waiting to be fired excludes you from unemployment money.

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... After he took off a week and a half from work (that he started a month ago.) Because he “doesn’t like to work.”

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All those updoots surely must mean this poor Redditor is oppressed by Capitalism. Luckily there is some sense in the comments.

Honestly surprised the last post has so many upvotes

 

[El Gato Grande]

Have you ever worked with an engineer from China? At a past position I worked at, our interns were able to do a better job than a gaggle of chinks with PhDs in engineering in a matter of just days after the interns started. It’s a meaningless statistic, as anyone who outsources this shit will tell you.

I dunno mang, I was really shocked at how incompetent they were with even the basic engineering principles they supposedly got a doctorate in. Our interns from pozzed universities were running circles around them. Of course, once they got a sense I was less than satisfied with their work, they ran to the nearest HR rep to whine that I had a burning hatred for the Chinese.

I could have dealt with a bad bunch of them but my impression, which only crystallizes with time, is that they are a headache to deal with since they lie about their skill set so you never truly know what kind of work product they’ll deliver and for someone with busy schedules, who has time for that shit.

Read about the concept of face in Asian societies. Instead of being personally motivated to practically learn and exercise skills they judge success based on social hierarchy. In America criticizing your boss is morally justified if the boss is in the wrong whereas there it’s an unacceptable attack on your social superior. The reason why they put so much emphasis on education is because in their worldview having a higher degree matters far more than practical accomplishments you achieve. Us westerners would see an incompetent degree holder as a joke, a waste of money and a sign of corruption whereas they would see an undereducated worker with a lot of responsibility as being foolish and unorthodox “if you’re so good at engineering why don’t you get a PHD and become department leader?” If you work hard your job but aren’t promoted you’re somebody’s bitch and you’re obviously doing something wrong, whereas if your position is higher people under you are automatically less successful and under no circumstances is their work or insight more valuable than yours.

In a lot of their corporate culture it’s usually unacceptable to criticize someone’s work, so if something goes wrong you abstractly blame another department/part of the company detached from your own and hope the issue goes away so no one gets blamed and loses face. They often struggle to accept criticism in any form, even completely supportive recommendations. If anyone breaks this convention and tries to hold them to objective standards which are more common in western company culture they’ll sweat bullets and sometimes resort to BS to remove the source of criticism, such as outright refusing to communicate.

Obviously not all of them are like this and there’s a lot of nuance involved, and as time goes by a lot of their old culture is being ground down by globohomo like everything else, but it’s an issue that penetrates every facet of their society. It’s one of many reasons China (and sometimes other culture) underperforms compared to how much manpower, equipment and scientific expertise they have on paper.

A lot of leftist/antiwork types have loosely similar attitudes in some regards in that they think the system should be immaculate enough to take care of them without them needing to take incentive or act independently and that “being more educated” is a virtue in and of itself because theoretically they should be superior than truck drivers making cross country deliveries and technicians supervising sewage treatment plant operations. Yet they show no respect for authority, don’t supply the meticulous work or put effort into social and formal skills “eastern” societies have.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

Honestly surprised the last post has so many upvotes

Considering the top posts on that subreddit this past week have 137,000, 90,000, and 70,000 upvotes....700 upvotes for a sane take isn't that impressive. There's a shit load of people on that subreddit, and very few of them are intelligent

 

[PointOfNoReturnPoint]

STopped by there as its been quite some time since Doreen did his/her/he/she/it and the first thing I see is this. The very people that keep the website you are on running comes to mind shithead. You want them to go home when they want when there is a problem on your platform of choice to puke rhetoric?

 

[Gangster Talk]

"Who came up with 40 anyway?"

A highly influential socialist who was fighting for improving worker conditions, retards.

 

[Orange Rhymer]

"Who came up with 40 anyway?"

A highly influential socialist who was fighting for improving worker conditions, retards.
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When does the socialist 'worker' finally stop using the term 'Labor' ?
They clearly want nothing to do with that word.

I wish Owen/Marx/Lenin/etc... could see what they spawned.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

When does the socialist 'worker' finally stop using the term 'Labor' ?
They clearly want nothing to do with that word.

I wish Owen/Marx/Lenin/etc... could see what they spawned.

At least Marx would shrug his shoulders and move on, Karl Marx himself was a rich NEET who neglected his family and leached off of his capitalist friend Engles.

 

[awoo]

"Who came up with 40 anyway?"

A highly influential socialist who was fighting for improving worker conditions, retards.
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Plus if you work an office job the amount of work that actually gets done is more like 5-6 hours

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Plus if you work an office job the amount of work that actually gets done is more like 5-6 hours

Depends, certain office jobs where you are constantly billing your time out to clients, you are always working (Public Accounting, Lawyers)

 

[Gingervitis]

Depends, certain office jobs where you are constantly billing your time out to clients, you are always working (Public Accounting, Lawyers)

I assume it would also depend on each individual office and what they do.

Source: the family business was an HVAC contracting business and a heating oil delivery business. Food customers are nothing compared to a customer who runs out of heating oil, calls for it at 4:00 in the afternoon yet wants it today, and hasn’t paid off their previous bills in a year. Especially when all your other coworkers are on the phones with other customers and there’s three more phone calls on the queue as soon as one of you hangs up

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

I don't know shit about foraging and farming, but I'm pretty sure they think it's some cutesy little aesthetic romp through the woods and orchard and not backbreaking effort to make sure you and your family don't starve.
Actually, they might die pretty quickly from eating what looked like a safe, white mushroom, only for it to be the aptly named destroying angel.

 

[teriyakiburns]

I don't know shit about foraging and farming, but I'm pretty sure they think it's some cutesy little aesthetic romp through the woods and orchard and not backbreaking effort to make sure you and your family don't starve

This is how you know they've never worked a hard day on their lives. They picture some sort of romantic idyll, in which people only have to do a bare minimum to live in luxury, and have endless summer days to laze about in sun-dappled woods. They have no idea how much labour is required just to stay afloat in a pre-agrarian, pre-industrial society.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

r/antiwork is using Robert Reich-isms to justify their ideology of economics in current day

It can’t be as much of a disaster as his height.

 

[$80 Nude Haircut]

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I don't know shit about foraging and farming, but I'm pretty sure they think it's some cutesy little aesthetic romp through the woods and orchard and not backbreaking effort to make sure you and your family don't starve.
Actually, they might die pretty quickly from eating what looked like a safe, white mushroom, only for it to be the aptly named destroying angel.

What they think they'd be doing:

What they'd actually have to be doing: