Jerry Peet / Lily Orchard / Lily Peet / Valkyrstudios / Bhaalspawn / Tara Callie / "Mod Ebara" - Sociopath writer of pedophile fanfiction and cartoon reviews, faked getting raped to force a divorce, then mobbed and gaslit their ex off Tumblr, satanist neoliberal of the MovieSlob variety, also wants to fuck dogs and/or pokemon

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Our girl is hurting for money. Somone is begging her to help Lupina whose father is still in jail awaiting his court date.
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Clerical error my ass. His court date was the 6th and the 13th. It’s now been updated further.

CANCEL EVERYTHING I SAID I DIDNT LOOK CLOSE ENOUGH ON THE ARREST DATE. LUPINA’S DAD GOT OUT AND WAS PICKED UP AGAIN ON THE FIFTH OF OCTOBER CATCHING A FTA IN THE PROCESS 😂 GETTING HARD TO FEEL BAD FOR THIS GUY.

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I don’t understand why this is Lily’s fans problem. Sucks but it’s not the job of a child to raise this kind of money on her own it’s the job of the adults who are so destitute that the state powers will most likely get involved.8859F9F8-E274-4C85-9F1F-E0692B16627D.jpegB5CFAF55-943D-4B1C-A0BA-155E06891F56.jpeg
 
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CANCEL EVERYTHING I SAID I DIDNT LOOK CLOSE ENOUGH ON THE ARREST DATE. LUPINA’S DAD GOT OUT AND WAS PICKED UP AGAIN ON THE FIFTH OF OCTOBER CATCHING A FTA IN THE PROCESS 😂 GETTING HARD TO FEEL BAD FOR THIS GUY.

Wasn't Lupina on the run from this guy because he was abusing the mother and sibling and that's why they were running away to Texas because Texas recognizes the age of 17 as being a legal adult (despite that being a federal law and not in control of the states) so Lupina would be able to handle nebulous adult-necessary details

but Lupina also couldn't get a legal ID despite it only costing $20 and being easy-access government IDs so they had to keep begging for weeks upon weeks

which is very weird because Lupina apparently had a job and the lack of ID didn't make that illegal but just made it harder for them to get paid so they had to ask for donations to bridge the gap

because apparently it costs a family of three a thousand dollars a week to buy groceries (and only groceries, they specifically made this plea in lieu of being able to pay rent because having food was more important. A thousand dollars worth of food. For a week)

except now it's back to a family of four because suddenly Dad is the only breadwinner (I guess Lupina not having a valid ID finally caught up to them) but Dad's boss refuses to pay him for months on end in direct violation of federal law so Lupina needed to keep begging for rent and grocery money

because suddenly the motel is going to kick every tenant out if Lupina's family doesn't pay for all of them?!? I couldn't even follow this happenstance

and now something has actually happened with Dad being arrested and Lupina is STILL LYING, except now there's a paper trail to prove it.

A wild ride to be sure, but the best part has definitely been Lily not only signal boosting but contributing her own money to the cause. Lupina is a leech who found a lucrative host who lacks any capacity for critical thought and has been milking Lily and her fans for... what, a couple of months now? And just assumes that since it's worked so far they can just keep asking Lily for money and attention. Chances of the Anon being Lupina pretending that they're some unrelated third party casually asking for Lily's help? Non-zero.

Personally I've found it very hard to feel bad for Lupina for a while.
 
Honestly I have given up keeping up with whatever soap opera plot is going on with Lupina. I don't doubt that kid has problems on her life but I don't believe for a second that all that money was for everything she said it was. She's a scammer and Liliana is a idiot for using her for virtue signaling instead of saving up the money to sponsor her own wife, that is all there is to it. Two idiots feeding off each other, serves them right.
 
People have opinions about EOT’s video. Laughing about how serious she is and how grooming really doesn’t apply to Lily in this regard. Call her a creepy abuser sure. But groomer? No. Not without better evidence. No big news, people in this thread have said the same thing, just saving for posterity.

At the end they show screenshots Glade provides full DM with his chat with Patch showing that Glade is friends with Levi and was the fan he cites in his video where he calls out Lily for making anons cry.
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I have this wierd sensation of having seen a post of Lily before, where she used the Calarts-style argument to paint Sugar as a hack, but I can't find it so I'll consider it a misplaced memory. But it sounds exactly like something Lily would do.

More Owl House vomit.
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Clone stories are intersting because they tackle the age-long question over what makes you your own person. Which is also what Hunter's whole arc is about, becoming his own person.
But it's also something Lily isn't capable of to either understand nor accept, so it's no surprise she would shit all over this idea. If someone's shows independent thought, she'll just opt to cut them out of her life the show.
 
I have this wierd sensation of having seen a post of Lily before, where she used the Calarts-style argument to paint Sugar as a hack, but I can't find it so I'll consider it a misplaced memory. But it sounds exactly like something Lily would do.

More Owl House vomit.
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Clone stories are intersting because they tackle the age-long question over what makes you your own person. Which is also what Hunter's whole arc is about, becoming his own person.
But it's also something Lily isn't capable of to either understand nor accept, so it's no surprise she would shit all over this idea. If someone's shows independent thought, she'll just opt to cut them out of her life the show.
So the anon's "criticism" of Hunter's arc... isn't really criticism. "It's overdone" is not a real argument; it says nothing about the merits of the actual thing itself. And Lily's interjection here doesn't add much. Just because you've seen it a lot and are tired of it doesn't mean somebody else is. And even if an idea for a character or plot point is overdone, that's not the same as "having no ideas", that IS their idea.
If Lily ever used "CalArts" as an attack on Rebecca Sugar, I feel like I would have remembered that. That said, you're not alone, I have a ton of memories of things that sound like they could have happened, but I'm not sure actually happened.
 
I have this wierd sensation of having seen a post of Lily before, where she used the Calarts-style argument to paint Sugar as a hack, but I can't find it so I'll consider it a misplaced memory. But it sounds exactly like something Lily would do.

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Clone stories are intersting because they tackle the age-long question over what makes you your own person. Which is also what Hunter's whole arc is about, becoming his own person.
But it's also something Lily isn't capable of to either understand nor accept, so it's no surprise she would shit all over this idea. If someone's shows independent thought, she'll just opt to cut them out of her life the show.

Lily didn't really bother addressing the question regarding 'clone stories', which is fine. Probably not something she actually thinks about or engages with, given her particular fixations.

I actually don't disagree with her ultimate point-- that's a very common issue that writers have in getting attached to an idea or character to the detriment of the story. But knowing Lily her specific objections to Hunter are because he's an angsty white boy and not because his arc is hurting the story (I'd expect it's hurting The Owl House in the sense that Hunter's scenes mean there's less time to dedicate to lesbian romance).

Moreover, it's a pretty funny accusation coming from somebody whose writing methods are to write with literally no plan, shit out whatever flight of fancy you're having in the moment, and then double down when everybody else tells you it's a terrible idea please stop. Lily is incapable of killing her darlings (although in fairness to her, if she did kill her darlings, there would be literally nothing left in her stories except a pile of prepositions) and sneering down her nose at other writers for presumably not doing so themselves is hypocritical to say the least, never mind presumptive. She says 'he made it through multiple prototypes' as though core characters aren't retained through the creative process.

Bonus for this cute thing she does where, instead of just talking about the piece of media, she always has to drag the creator specifically. It's always a personal attack.

If Lily ever used "CalArts" as an attack on Rebecca Sugar, I feel like I would have remembered that.

Lily has no understanding of artistry and doesn't actually care about styles, art direction, or execution, so the chances of her lambasting 'CalArts style' are pretty slim and I only ever seem to remember her bringing it up just to tell people to stop complaining.
 
I can understand being tired of the clone storyline if there's nothing interesting for that audience member to wrestle with. Like, someone who thinks its obvious that a clone isn't the same as the original and are their own person. It's a fact, just as much as the sky is blue and water is wet. But, like others have pointed out, just because your tired of it or it doesn't do anything for you doesn't mean that it's just inherently bad. And, as always, execution matters much more than just being full of original ideas. That said, it's funny to see Lily criticize an artist for being unable to get rid of a certain character when Lily refuses to do the same. In fact, pretty much all her stories are built around the framework of forcing her OC into someone else's world and letting them hijack the story with their own angst.

Lily's hateboner for Hunter in particular has always struck me as weird because, having recently watched the Owl House, there's really nothing objectionable about his character? Like, he's not annoying, he's not an antagonist whose deeds are 'too irredeemable' for the audience to accept as part of team good guy, and he's basically just a kid? Like, a 14 year old kid? Guy's literally still trying to figure out who he wants to be, as adolescents do, and then he finds out he's just a duplicate of someone else. One of possibly hundreds of duplicates of someone else. Duplicates that his father-figure has been disposing of like trash. The fact his name is 'Hunter' may not even be so much a name as it is just a title. Belos calls him 'Hunter' the same way a military officer might call their men 'soldier' or 'private.' He calls him Hunter because he's a witch hunter, and the kid just assumed that was his name. Kid's got a lot of trauma to go through, and normally Lily is a sucker for trauma dumping onto characters...who are women.

The real reason she hates Hunter seems to do more with her fandom policing shit. She sees the characters as just bait for teenage white-girls to gush about and make posts about how he's their 'baby.' He's just another Zuko or Loki or even Kylo Ren- just some pretty boy that exists to steal screen-time, fandom discussion and fanart from the protag and her girlfriend. It's like a weird, petty jealousy thing that people like Hunter more than Luz or something, but I guess being petty over dumb shit is just part of the Lily Orchard brand.
 
I can understand being tired of the clone storyline if there's nothing interesting for that audience member to wrestle with. Like, someone who thinks its obvious that a clone isn't the same as the original and are their own person. It's a fact, just as much as the sky is blue and water is wet. But, like others have pointed out, just because your tired of it or it doesn't do anything for you doesn't mean that it's just inherently bad. And, as always, execution matters much more than just being full of original ideas. That said, it's funny to see Lily criticize an artist for being unable to get rid of a certain character when Lily refuses to do the same. In fact, pretty much all her stories are built around the framework of forcing her OC into someone else's world and letting them hijack the story with their own angst.

Lily's hateboner for Hunter in particular has always struck me as weird because, having recently watched the Owl House, there's really nothing objectionable about his character? Like, he's not annoying, he's not an antagonist whose deeds are 'too irredeemable' for the audience to accept as part of team good guy, and he's basically just a kid? Like, a 14 year old kid? Guy's literally still trying to figure out who he wants to be, as adolescents do, and then he finds out he's just a duplicate of someone else. One of possibly hundreds of duplicates of someone else. Duplicates that his father-figure has been disposing of like trash. The fact his name is 'Hunter' may not even be so much a name as it is just a title. Belos calls him 'Hunter' the same way a military officer might call their men 'soldier' or 'private.' He calls him Hunter because he's a witch hunter, and the kid just assumed that was his name. Kid's got a lot of trauma to go through, and normally Lily is a sucker for trauma dumping onto characters...who are women.

The real reason she hates Hunter seems to do more with her fandom policing shit. She sees the characters as just bait for teenage white-girls to gush about and make posts about how he's their 'baby.' He's just another Zuko or Loki or even Kylo Ren- just some pretty boy that exists to steal screen-time, fandom discussion and fanart from the protag and her girlfriend. It's like a weird, petty jealousy thing that people like Hunter more than Luz or something, but I guess being petty over dumb shit is just part of the Lily Orchard brand.
Yeah she seems to have forgotten that this show is for preteen girls, and won't accept that maybe preteen girls like angsty bad boy characters.

You step back and look at her career you realize she's spent most of her time on tumblr yelling at teenagers for liking the wrong things.
 
Yeah she seems to have forgotten that this show is for preteen girls, and won't accept that maybe preteen girls like angsty bad boy characters.

You step back and look at her career you realize she's spent most of her time on tumblr yelling at teenagers for liking the wrong things.
And then she denies that she has an audience comprised largely of teenagers.
 
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Lily “I’ll break your nose mom” Orchard everyone.
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Morals has a question about whose mom hated Lily for being poly. My guess is going back through the timeline it’s either Miranda or Ginger.

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Someone watching that top anime video jabbed at one of her hyperfixations Family Guy and got an earful. Lily really can’t take being mocked.
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With Lily fans flocking to that blog to shit talk that user who laughed the person flooded their page with accusations from the gossip blogs.
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That said, it's funny to see Lily criticize an artist for being unable to get rid of a certain character when Lily refuses to do the same. In fact, pretty much all her stories are built around the framework of forcing her OC into someone else's world and letting them hijack the story with their own angst.
Wasn't that how Kingdom Hearts, the series that Lilly likes so much that he classed it as an anime in his list of "Favorate Anime" started with Sora going to the various Disney worlds and making the plots of those worlds work around his presence after the Destiny Islands/Traverse Town prologue in the first game?
 
Wait... Voyager? ...does she mean Star Trek Voyager?

Because... Oh my God, I finally get why she hates Garnet and says she's an unhealthy relationship. And her liking Star Trek Voyager would explain this entirely!

I'll spoiler it for length, but this screencap of hers and this clip have something in common: fusion.

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Okay, Voyager sucks as a Star Trek, and one of the worst episodes is about two characters fusing.

Yes, like Steven Universe, two characters (Tuvok and Neelix) have an accident with a transporter, and are fused into one being (Tuvix). He's a better, stronger, smarter person than the that made him. He's liked by everyone in the crew... But the "ethical dilemma" is that now those other two characters are gone. However, Tuvix has their abilities, so they're not missing in a way that hurts the crew.

The argument is that the families of these two people are losing their loved ones. One of them has a wife and damn it sure would suck for her to...assume he's dead and move on with her life. Oh wait that's what she did anyway. It's not really clear what the downsides, if any, there are. Other than he's so cool and you can't have him in two places at once. The two guys who made him up didn't really have a say in it, I guess.

The captain says that they need to reverse the accident and unfuse Tuvix. Because of those downsides. The problem is that Tuvix is his own person. He sees being unfused as being murdered, because he will cease to be. He's very adamant about this, and most of the ship is too.
But no one is in a position to oppose the captain due to overarching plot reasons.

The clip I linked is that moment when it's "fixed." Janeway kills him.

We get the other two characters back.
They're back to how it always was.

I might be misremembering some Star Trek, but, if this is the Voyager she meant, then this is funny.
 
Wait... Voyager? ...does she mean Star Trek Voyager?

Because... Oh my God, I finally get why she hates Garnet and says she's an unhealthy relationship. And her liking Star Trek Voyager would explain this entirely!

I'll spoiler it for length, but this screencap of hers and this clip have something in common: fusion.

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Okay, Voyager sucks as a Star Trek, and one of the worst episodes is about two characters fusing.

Yes, like Steven Universe, two characters (Tuvok and Neelix) have an accident with a transporter, and are fused into one being (Tuvix). He's a better, stronger, smarter person than the that made him. He's liked by everyone in the crew... But the "ethical dilemma" is that now those other two characters are gone. However, Tuvix has their abilities, so they're not missing in a way that hurts the crew.

The argument is that the families of these two people are losing their loved ones. One of them has a wife and damn it sure would suck for her to...assume he's dead and move on with her life. Oh wait that's what she did anyway. It's not really clear what the downsides, if any, there are. Other than he's so cool and you can't have him in two places at once. The two guys who made him up didn't really have a say in it, I guess.

The captain says that they need to reverse the accident and unfuse Tuvix. Because of those downsides. The problem is that Tuvix is his own person. He sees being unfused as being murdered, because he will cease to be. He's very adamant about this, and most of the ship is too.
But no one is in a position to oppose the captain due to overarching plot reasons.

The clip I linked is that moment when it's "fixed." Janeway kills him.

We get the other two characters back.
They're back to how it always was.

I might be misremembering some Star Trek, but, if this is the Voyager she meant, then this is funny.
The thing is, Garnet SEEMS like a dependent relationship on the most superficial level, which is the only level of critique Lily is able to debate on. When you realize both of her component parts are tiny, fragile and also encouraged to stay fused as often as possible by their now ex-leader, it becomes less of a dependent relationship and more two characters who're are just doing their best to survive. The show even makes it a big deal that they become more independent post-wedding which further destroys Lily's argument.
 
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The thing is, Garnet SEEMS like a dependent relationship on the most superficial level, which is the only level of critique Lily is able to debate on. When you realize both of her component parts are tiny, fragile and also encouraged to stay fused as often as possible by their now ex-leader, it becomes less of a dependent relationship and more two characters who're are just doing their best to survive. The show even makes it a big deal that they become more independent post-wedding which further destroys Lily's argument.
Rubies specifically are trained to fuse all the time with each other because otherwise they have no chance to work as bodyguards and being bodyguards is the entire reason of their creation. Fusion is an actual necesity for them because without it they have no reason for living.

The show (and movie) is very clear that is exactly how Ruby views herself, as something disposible to use and thrown out, replaceable, and it isn't until she meets Sapphire she doesn't think that her life has any value beyond that. Sapphire teaches Ruby to see herself as more than that not because they're dating but because she deserves better, regardless of their relationship.

That right right is a much more healthy than the mess that Alaina and Rey are in. I can believe that either part of Garnet would learn to move on if something happened to the other, eventually, after a lot of grieving, instead of commiting suicide and everyone around them agreeing it's a good idea.
 
The thing is, Garnet SEEMS like a dependent relationship on the most superficial level, which is the only level of critique Lily is able to debate on. When you realize both of her component parts are tiny, fragile and also encouraged to stay fused as often as possible by their now ex-leader, it becomes less of a dependent relationship and more two characters who're are just doing their best to survive. The show even makes it a big deal that they become more independent post-wedding which further destroys Lily's argument.
I dont think rose intentionally told them to keep fused, but we don't see her interact with them a lot to really know.

I just wonder if her views in characters fusing was helped a long by Warcrimes Janeway.
 
Wasn't that how Kingdom Hearts, the series that Lilly likes so much that he classed it as an anime in his list of "Favorate Anime" started with Sora going to the various Disney worlds and making the plots of those worlds work around his presence after the Destiny Islands/Traverse Town prologue in the first game?

Yes and no. Generally the worlds don't really revolve around Sora so much as he jumps in to help the cast of the world-- most of the Disney worlds are still fundamentally the Disney movie, or related to those characters, with Sora's involvement being important but supplementary. (Sometimes not even that; this gets at its worst in KH3 in Arendelle and the Kingdom of Corona, where it's literally just Frozen and Tangled but SDG Sometimes Ruin the Scene).

But the idea of making an OC and inserting them into a property certainly didn't start with Kingdom Hearts. The trope is as old as fanfiction itself (hell, about as old as storytelling itself). It's pretty much THE go-to for any fanfiction author just starting out; make your own character who gets to be friends with (or bang members of) the original cast. Self-insert fanfiction is perhaps baked into the bones of humanity itself. She didn't need to be 'inspired' by Kingdom Hearts.

That right right is a much more healthy than the mess that Alaina and Rey are in. I can believe that either part of Garnet would learn to move on if something happened to the other, eventually, after a lot of grieving, instead of commiting suicide and everyone around them agreeing it's a good idea.

Just to reiterate, Rey's the only one in this union that would commit suicide for the other. Aliana's presumably too important to the galaxy to do such a thing if Rey were to die before her.

I'm sure I've said this before but Rey and Aliana remind me heavily of Bella and Edward in this regard. There's a point in one of the Twilight books where they go to visit Bella's mother and she comments that Bella is literally a satellite to Edward-- whenever he moves even the slightest bit she adjusts herself exactly as he does to remain in his orbit. This is presented in the text as being evidence of how in sync and in love with each other they are but to any normal person this is a terrifying fixation.

The difference, of course, is that while Rey is Bella, always in orbit around Aliana, Aliana does not reciprocate this devotion. Twilight is a master class in romanticizing a highly unhealthy relationship, but at least they were both willing to die for one another. It's histrionic, but at least it's mutual.
 
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What is so hard with saying: Sure thanks for asking! What is so hard about that,Lily?
I think Liliana thought that person meant that they were going to use some of her videos as examples? They didn't say any of that but Liliana is so stupid she maybe just assumed so.

Or maybe she just felt like being cunt to a random person for no reason.
 
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