YouTube Historians/HistoryTube/PopHistory

[JJLiautaud]

At the library that Ms. Confederate Woman works at, I saw one of Rosa’s books on the discard cart (because no one ever read it in the

Was this the book? Because this is the only thing I find with Rosa Luxemberg and Toothpaste.

 

[Mr. Confederate Man]

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Was this the book? Because this is the only thing I find with Rosa Luxemberg and Toothpaste.

Probably was. Was a while ago and certainly didn't have such a fancy cover since it was an old edition

 

[JJLiautaud]

Probably was. Was a while ago and certainly didn't have such a fancy cover since it was an old edition

Lol so i managed to find a public facing review of the book:

A much less known, but equally powerful work dealing with communism’s inherent dishonesty is Leopold Tyrmand’s The Rosa Luxemburg Contraceptives Collective: A Primer on Communist Civilization. Tyrmand left his native Poland in the 1960s and arrived in the United States, where he was shocked to see a large part of the intellectual elites harbor naïve illusions about communism. He wrote this book to explain communism from an insider’s perspective to Americans blessed to live in a free country.

Link

 

[Slap47]

No wonder this guy is banned from the secret Slack channel.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

Im just barely getting around to watch through The Great War. Are there any videos that have been removed from the timeline?

 

[74164978231]

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Hey man, he may have white guilt, but he seems like a good sport about shit he fucked up (or he's covering his ass). I can't hate him he's just some slick editor who wanted to cash in on history/bread tube

God I really wish I had a time machine. Id love to send these smug retarded sjw cultural cucks back in time for them to experience the reality they so fervently deny.

Watch pasty soyboy Johnny get enslaved by the Ottomans and be forcefully turned into a child soldier. See how wonderful he thinks life is when his wife is stolen by ottoman raiders so she can be some turks cumdump.

 

[khaine]

 

[Seventh Star]

I was rewatching Historia Civilis videos and he comes across as biased beyond whats reasonable in a lot of videos. Most notably, the Congress of Vienna videos where he keeps putting down King Alexander and inserted a tone-deaf bit about slavery at the end of Part 2, and in the Caesar as King video, where he keeps bizarrely speaking as if he knew what Caesar wanted and thought.

I keep hearing that its impossible to be objective about history, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. The obession with objectivity being "non-existant" for trivial reasons has led content creators to believe that instead they should make their videos as subjective and non-rigorous as possible. I can understand conjectures and theories, which are subjective, being added into videos, but the biases are instead presented as fact. Its a shame, because it could be really entertaining and educative, but instead its deceptive, and I only started noticing after quite a few rewatches.

 

[Breadbassket]

I was rewatching Historia Civilis videos and he comes across as biased beyond whats reasonable in a lot of videos. Most notably, the Congress of Vienna videos where he keeps putting down King Alexander and inserted a tone-deaf bit about slavery at the end of Part 2, and in the Caesar as King video, where he keeps bizarrely speaking as if he knew what Caesar wanted and thought.

I keep hearing that its impossible to be objective about history, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. The obession with objectivity being "non-existant" for trivial reasons has led content creators to believe that instead they should make their videos as subjective and non-rigorous as possible. I can understand conjectures and theories, which are subjective, being added into videos, but the biases are instead presented as fact. Its a shame, because it could be really entertaining and educative, but instead its deceptive, and I only started noticing after quite a few rewatches.

He really goes after Tsar Alexander a lot in the Congress of Vienna videos for some reason, especially how "unpredictable" and prone to "mood swings" he was. His videos on Roman history are quite informative and well made but one observation I have made about them is that he goes out of his way a lot to say how heinous the Romans were when it came to how they dealt with the Gauls and what they did with prisoners after triumph parades.

 

[JJLiautaud]

He really goes after Tsar Alexander a lot in the Congress of Vienna videos for some reason, especially how "unpredictable" and prone to "mood swings" he was. His videos on Roman history are quite informative and well made but one observation I have made about them is that he goes out of his way a lot to say how heinous the Romans were when it came to how they dealt with the Gauls and what they did with prisoners after triumph parades.

I mean arguing that the roman treatment of the gauls was a genocide or at least an ethnic cleansing isnt exactly an unknown position among classical historians and the strangulation of the captives at the end of the triumph reeks of human sacrifice so i dont fault him for that.

 

[Slap47]

I was rewatching Historia Civilis videos and he comes across as biased beyond whats reasonable in a lot of videos. Most notably, the Congress of Vienna videos where he keeps putting down King Alexander and inserted a tone-deaf bit about slavery at the end of Part 2, and in the Caesar as King video, where he keeps bizarrely speaking as if he knew what Caesar wanted and thought.

I keep hearing that its impossible to be objective about history, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. The obession with objectivity being "non-existant" for trivial reasons has led content creators to believe that instead they should make their videos as subjective and non-rigorous as possible. I can understand conjectures and theories, which are subjective, being added into videos, but the biases are instead presented as fact. Its a shame, because it could be really entertaining and educative, but instead its deceptive, and I only started noticing after quite a few rewatches.

Being objective just means trying to be based in facts and not bending them - it does not mean not having an opinion. Aside from his "Antifa Civilis" stint, Civilis is effectively just an idealistic modern liberal. He throws his lot in with Cato and clearly hates dictatorship & monarchy regardless of how competent the person on the throne is.

 

[Seventh Star]

Being objective just means trying to be based in facts and not bending them - it does not mean not having an opinion. Aside from his "Antifa Civilis" stint, Civilis is effectively just an idealistic modern liberal. He throws his lot in with Cato and clearly hates dictatorship & monarchy regardless of how competent the person on the throne is.

I sound like a broken record here but these videos come with a lot of facts bent by what the author thinks or wants to believe, or their opinions are presented as fact (ie: what HC thinks Caesar thought). Also being objective = being subjective? Ridiculous. Especially not when it colors the perception of a subject, lying by omission is also a thing (for example, avoiding extra sources). This thread has a problem with defending flawed content creators with bad logic.

Another example I also wanted to bring up is Spookston. While not a history tuber he tries to dabble in it with semi historical videos and came with garbage like this. Cite your sources (in this video series he at least tried to use mildly decent sources), or you will end up making another Death Traps.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I sound like a broken record here but these videos come with a lot of facts bent by what the author thinks or wants to believe, or their opinions are presented as fact (ie: what HC thinks Caesar thought). Also being objective = being subjective? Ridiculous. Especially not when it colors the perception of a subject, lying by omission is also a thing (for example, avoiding extra sources). This thread has a problem with defending flawed content creators with bad logic.

Another example I also wanted to bring up is Spookston. While not a history tuber he tries to dabble in it with semi historical videos and came with garbage like this. Cite your sources (in this video series he at least tried to use mildly decent sources), or you will end up making another Death Traps.

The video is clearly a riff of his if x was historically accurate series where he uses either crew reports, archived government documents, or reliable historians to back up his points.

 

[Seventh Star]

The video is clearly a riff of his if x was historically accurate aeries were he uses either crew reports, archived government documents, or reliable historians to back up his points.

I know the series, but check the pinned comment. He's dead serious. His sources weren't exactly the best before but they're acceptable, this one is basically another dumb Ukraine war meme.

Speaking of reliable historians, The Tank Museum/Bovington is not a reliable source when it comes to tanks, and I just want people here to know that if they get into any tank video. They don't read their own archives or measure things, and it led to embarassing incidents like the TOG 2 having a "17-pounder" when it turned out to be an 87mm cannon if I recall correctly.

 

[JJLiautaud]

I know the series, but check the pinned comment. He's dead serious. His sources weren't exactly the best before but they're acceptable, this one is basically another dumb Ukraine war meme.

Speaking of reliable historians, The Tank Museum/Bovington is not a reliable source when it comes to tanks, and I just want people here to know that if they get into any tank video. They don't read their own archives or measure things, and it led to embarassing incidents like the TOG 2 having a "17-pounder" when it turned out to be an 87mm cannon if I recall correctly.

>dead serious

Nigger wat.
Also got a source on the TOG2* gun?

 

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

I’m going to be completely honest: tank autism outdoes train autism. When Cody started Knowledge Hub with a tank video all those years ago (before giving it to his brother to turn it into a better Jimquisition) and all the bickering in the comments, I was turned-off looking into tanks.

Why do tanks attract autism so much?

 

[JJLiautaud]

I’m going to be completely honest: tank autism outdoes train autism. When Cody started Knowledge Hub with a tank video all those years ago (before giving it to his brother to turn it into a better Jimquisition) and all the bickering in the comments, I was turned-off looking into tanks.

Why do tanks attract autism so much?

I honestly don't know i only have a passing familiarity with tanks they arent my autistic niche post-dreadnought-1950 warships however are.

 

[Seventh Star]

Nigger wat.

Wtf? I just went and there was a correction about top speed as the pinned comment. Odd. Well if its satire then thats better, apologies.

I’m going to be completely honest: tank autism outdoes train autism. When Cody started Knowledge Hub with a tank video all those years ago (before giving it to his brother to turn it into a better Jimquisition) and all the bickering in the comments, I was turned-off looking into tanks.

Why do tanks attract autism so much?

Same reason there's a guntuber thread, but tenfold. You have these impressive, giant machines, with engines, armor, different designs, weaponry, philosophies behind them... I think trains are boring, but I'm really fascinated with tanks. The community can actually be quite welcoming if youre willing to put the effort into learning about them and ask smart questions.

There's also a lot of prototypes and concepts which were never completed which can make one's mind get carried away with what could have been. If you want to get hooked on tanks, there's nothing better than reading about the shit AMX got up to in the 1950s/1960s. They made some of the most alien tanks out there, and its a shame only one made it into production.

The reason there's a difference in attitudes is because nationalism is heavily involved in tanktism, along with different analysis of history, and a whole lot of misinformation (like Death Traps by Belton Cooper). Fnnily enough, tanktists think traintists are weirder.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

I sound like a broken record here but these videos come with a lot of facts bent by what the author thinks or wants to believe, or their opinions are presented as fact (ie: what HC thinks Caesar thought). Also being objective = being subjective? Ridiculous. Especially not when it colors the perception of a subject, lying by omission is also a thing (for example, avoiding extra sources). This thread has a problem with defending flawed content creators with bad logic.

Another example I also wanted to bring up is Spookston. While not a history tuber he tries to dabble in it with semi historical videos and came with garbage like this. Cite your sources (in this video series he at least tried to use mildly decent sources), or you will end up making another Death Traps.

Spook isnt the worst, but hes a war thunder tuber first and a historian second, i doubt anything he says is "wrong" but its all basic bitch stuff like "did you know there was alot of T-34s but not a lot of Tiger 2s?", he also perpetuates the German tanks being unreliable meme (which while not wrong i feel is highly misrepresented and over blown.)

 

[Slap47]

Spook isnt the worst, but hes a war thunder tuber first and a historian second, i doubt anything he says is "wrong" but its all basic bitch stuff like "did you know there was alot of T-34s but not a lot of Tiger 2s?", he also perpetuates the German tanks being unreliable meme (which while not wrong i feel is highly misrepresented and over blown.)

German tanks were unreliable. The Nazi romanticism of craftsmen and guild labor crippled them. Their only saving grace being that they spent the 1930s training a huge number of mechanics, had a good doctrine, and lots of wartime for their tankers to get experience.