How Not to Go Off the Grid - Adventure seekers trying to get away from it all find they can’t get back into their Zipcar - "Just give up your car and rent one when you need to go out of town"

‘get away, disconnect, detach from everything’​

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Kateri Gajadhar-Smith and Marissa Battle watch as a mechanic attempts to turn on their rented Zipcar in Washington. HALEY SHOEBOTHAM

By Sarah Donaldson
Oct. 6, 2022 10:42 am ET

Marissa Battle and two friends marched out of the woods after a strenuous 5-mile hike near Olympic National Park, excited for the rest of their “Twilight” getaway weekend in Forks, Wash., the rural setting for the popular vampire romance saga.

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Then they got a jolt: They were locked out of the car. The trio had rented a technology-reliant Hyundai Elantra from Zipcar Inc., which had given the vehicle the fun name of “Monroe.” The car-sharing service owned by Avis Budget Group Inc. operates rental cars equipped with radio-frequency identification, known as RFID, and Bluetooth technology. “Monroe” is locked and unlocked through an app on a cellphone.

Despite being on a first-name basis with their car, the three friends couldn’t get inside. Because the trailhead was so remote, there was no cell service. They figured that without a signal, Monroe couldn’t hear them.

Another thing you can’t do without cell service is easily summon help. At the trailhead, with the late-afternoon sun sinking, they debated whether to scrounge for a ride. “We were kind of making a gamble of like, ‘OK, do we want to get in a car with these strangers?’ ” says Ms. Battle, who is now 25.

Eventually they hitched a ride with a passing husband and wife (not vampires, whew) who were camping nearby.

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Haley Shoebotham, Kateri Gajadhar-Smith and Marissa Battle took a road trip in Washington.
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The friends aren’t the only ones having road-trip dramas: Others say they have been waylaid after driving cellular-reliant transportation off the grid. (An Olympic National Park ranger station has even posted a sign warning this can happen.) Technology is making it trickier to get away from it all, because our new tech insists on tagging along.

Such cases of being stranded after going too far off the grid—by being locked out or the car not starting—“are extremely rare,” says Justin Holmes, vice president of marketing and public policy at Zipcar. “When they do, the root cause of them, it’s often not the technology, it’s something else,” he says, including phone settings or expired reservations.

Mr. Holmes said Zipcar can’t comment on specific incidents.

Zipcar’s website recommends drivers locked out of cars first make sure they have cellular data, Bluetooth and location data switched on.

Cindy Groshong, who owns Mountain Loop General Store in Washington’s Cascade foothills, about 3 miles from a reliable signal, says she and her employees regularly see people walk in seeking the store’s landline phone. The castaways, she says, are typically locked out of a digitized rental car or dealing with one that won’t start.

“You’re not the first person,” Lynn Sellick-Lane, a store clerk says she assures the stranded. “They’re always a little alarmed and surprised their car will lock them out.”

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Haley Shoebotham, Kateri Gajadhar-Smith and Marissa Battle on their way to Rattlesnake Lake in a Zipcar.
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While waiting for help, wayward travelers play with the store’s resident black cat, Mondo, or maybe grab a beer: “One gal just sat at the bar,” says Ms. Sellick-Lane.

University of Washington student Matthew Mitnick tries to defeat the cars himself. An ultramarathoner, he joined Zipcar to venture beyond where public transportation allows to run the Pacific Northwest trails. Half a dozen times, Mr. Mitnick says he emerged from long runs to a Zipcar that wouldn’t unlock via the app because the signal on his phone was too weak.

He says he works around the issue by walking around to find a strong enough signal to call Zipcar customer service to unlock the car remotely.
Sometimes, everyone is stumped.

Late one April night, Odhran McCarthy and his wife Maria Rettori—who both work for the United Nations—and their 2-year-old, traveled via Zipcar from their home in New York City to the Getaway Cabins in the Catskills.

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Odhran McCarthy, Maria Rettori and their toddler on their trip to the Catskills.
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“Get away, disconnect, detach from everything,” says Mr. McCarthy, who is 36, of the goal.

Turns out, they were too detached. The next morning, the family tried to leave for sightseeing, but Mr. McCarthy couldn’t unlock the car with his app or RFID card.

“We’ll find a solution,” Mr. McCarthy told himself initially before thinking, “Holy s—.”

He used a landline phone at the cabin office to call Zipcar, and the company arranged for a mechanic to come—who managed to get into the car, but couldn’t start it, Mr. McCarthy says. (Zipcar arranged for a tow, which claimed the car several days later.)

Meanwhile, the family took a $365 cab back to Manhattan, while managing a toddler and symptoms of food poisoning from food they had brought along since they couldn’t drive to a market or restaurant.

“A perfect planned weekend went to hell,” Ms. Rettori recalls.

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Odhran McCarthy and Maria Rettori's locked Zipcar during a getaway to the Catskills.
PHOTO: ODHRAN MCCARTHY


Zipcar later reimbursed them for the cab and property locked in the vehicle.

The three stranded friends who were off the grid for a Twilight-themed weekend hitched a ride to a lodge—but one far from where they planned to stay.

Unable to find help or a ride anywhere that night, by 1 a.m., the trio shelled out a few hundred dollars for the last room available. Their luggage was back in the car, Monroe.

“The three of us get in bed, in our sweaty, disgusting hiking clothes,” says Kateri Gajadhar-Smith, who is 25, and was part of the group.

The next morning they were optimistic. “It’s a fresh day,” Ms. Battle thought. “We can still make it to Edward and Bella’s first date.” (She meant reservations at a restaurant frequented by Twilight’s fictional couple.)

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Haley Shoebotham , Kateri Gajadhar-Smith and Marissa Battle behind the front desk at a lodge where they called for assistance.
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After a 45-minute drive back to the trailhead, a mechanic they summoned from a local towing service unlocked Monroe, using an air-pump wedge to jimmy the front door. But when friend Haley Shoebotham turned the key: Nothing. The trio say they think Zipcar’s antitheft tech kicked in, preventing the car from starting if opened without Zipcar’s technology.

They loaded everything from Monroe into the mechanic’s truck. They drove a stake through the second half of their Twilight weekend, and lunched with their mechanic at a Mexican restaurant. He then shuttled them to a friend, who brought them back to Seattle.

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After a 45-minute drive back to the trailhead, a mechanic they summoned from a local towing service unlocked Monroe, using an air-pump wedge to jimmy the front door. But when friend Haley Shoebotham turned the key: Nothing. The trio say they think Zipcar’s antitheft tech kicked in, preventing the car from starting if opened without Zipcar’s technology.
> turned the key
> the key
> key

they had a key the entire fucking time, but the service forces you to lock and unlock the car with a cellphone. but fucking WHY. she still has to use a KEY to START THE VEHICLE

edit: wait now that i think about it the key could already be in the ignition and all you'd have to do is turn it. but that's fucking asinine. "well you see the point is that it's anti-theft, the cellphone has to unlock the car otherwise it won't turn on". JUST USE A NORMAL FUCKING KEY OR ONE OF THOSE FOBS NEWER CARS USE.
 
Late one April night, Odhran McCarthy and his wife Maria Rettori—who both work for the United Nations—and their 2-year-old, traveled via Zipcar from their home in New York City to the Getaway Cabins in the Catskills.

“Get away, disconnect, detach from everything,” says Mr. McCarthy, who is 36, of the goal.

Turns out, they were too detached. The next morning, the family tried to leave for sightseeing, but Mr. McCarthy couldn’t unlock the car with his app or RFID card.

“We’ll find a solution,” Mr. McCarthy told himself initially before thinking, “Holy s—.”

He used a landline phone at the cabin office to call Zipcar, and the company arranged for a mechanic to come—who managed to get into the car, but couldn’t start it, Mr. McCarthy says. (Zipcar arranged for a tow, which claimed the car several days later.)

Meanwhile, the family took a $365 cab back to Manhattan, while managing a toddler and symptoms of food poisoning from food they had brought along since they couldn’t drive to a market or restaurant.

“A perfect planned weekend went to hell,” Ms. Rettori recalls.
Oh no!

So, anyway!

I feel bad for their 2-year-old but those UN faggots should consider this a warning to stay in their shithole bughive and out of the rest of the USA. Thankfully they're probably pussies so I doubt they'll try again.
 
Aren't the youth of today supposed to be tech savvy? Don't they know that these things never work when you need them to?
Tech savvy? No. Quite the opposite. They have been spoon-fed tech from the minute they could hold a tablet, and have never ventured outside the heavily-curated menus and popups that cater to the lowest common denominator. If you were to ask your average "tech savvy" person what a folder hierarchy was, they'd give you a blank stare and probably ask what a folder is.
 
you don't have to be that rural for this to happen. it's very baffling that people don't see where this is going. I live somewhere where there is no cell service in between the major cities and the recreation destinations. the people who live in those in between places are not rugged mountainmen; they are welfare dependent and completely unprepared for what is coming. I worry about them but also I want them for serfs.
 
Can someone please explain what the fuck a Zipcar is and why you wouldn't, idk, just rent a car like a normal person?
Zipcars are rented by a subscription (plus a very high hourly/daily fee) and are parked at special parking spots throughout the city instead of at a central facility. If you’re an urban bugman who doesn’t own a car, you can just go to the nearest one, unlock it with your phone, and drive away. Gas and insurance are included in the higher hourly fee. More info on their “How it Works” page.

The phone unlocking is key to business model and the flaw shown in the article. It’s also advertised as “renting a car when transit doesn’t go to your destination is better than owning a car”.

Normal rental car companies require traveling to the rental car facility and tend to have a minimum rental period of a day, which makes them too expensive and inconvenient for running errands.

Zipcar is owned by Avis, which is a traditional rental car company.
 
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Zipcars are rented by a subscription (plus a very high hourly/daily fee) and are parked at special parking spots throughout the city instead of at a central facility. If you’re an urban bugman who doesn’t own a car, you can just go to the nearest one, unlock it with your phone, and drive away. Gas and insurance are included in the higher hourly fee. More info on their “How it Works” page.

The phone unlocking is key to business model and the flaw shown in the article. It’s also advertised as “renting a car when transit doesn’t go to your destination is better than owning a car”.

Normal rental car companies require traveling to the rental car facility and tend to have a minimum rental period of a day, which makes them too expensive and inconvenient for running errands.

Zipcar is owned by Avis, which is a traditional rental car company.
Ah, they should have prayed to the Krill god Avis then.
 
The next morning they were optimistic. “It’s a fresh day,” Ms. Battle thought. “We can still make it to Edward and Bella’s first date.” (She meant reservations at a restaurant frequented by Twilight’s fictional couple.)
Somehow a worse love story than Twilight.
 
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I bet in some places, the locals are turning off the WiFi to make the tourists spend more money in the shops.

If they're not yet, they will be soon. I would 🤷🏻‍♀️
Guest network with the SSID being your door number/location and the price for the password. (The city slickers don't know there's a 56k bandwidth limit per-device) I was working on a ship and there were dozens of networks like this around the docks at every island. Places like bars and permanent businesses are less likely to fuck you. If you see a building with dozens of people on phones/laptops that don't look like they can afford phones/laptops, you've found somewhere with free wifi.
 
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