F.A.Qs about Jail, State Hospital, and Court

[Idiotus Maximus]

This has been said before but it's a real shame Pointless Sperg left. Dude was an outstanding poster, as a foreigner to the US I feel like his knowledge of the US legal system was outstanding.

Me being the foreigner, if I wasn't clear there.

 

[AnOminous]

Chris hasn't had any sperg outs in jail really, only that one outburst in Western.

We don't know that. We know virtually nothing about how many spergouts he's had. He's a sperg. He spergs out, that's what spergs do.

 

[Meat Pickle]

They know he has nowhere to go. His sperg out at Western only further verified that he is too far gone for the judge and lawyers. Meaning, they will hold him up in the system for as long as possible. Which is easy to do when that is literally the best place for him. He will rape a ween when he gets out because he really has nothing to lose now.

He could be in longer than 5 years. Does anyone know if that autistic law that applied in his case has writing he can be held for 5+ years? Chris has already been in a mental hospital and is most likely going back, if you are ruled insane can they hold you forever?

Edit: appears he could be in for life

Pleading Insanity in a Criminal Case

A successful insanity defense usually results in many years of mandatory treatment in a mental hospital, not a free ride out of jail.

www.criminaldefenselawyer.com

If what his first letter since getting out of Western State tells us, the state determined he is competent to stand trial, hence why is currently back in CVRJ. Even if he does get ruled insane, Chris has the constitutional right to get released once deemed safe to himself and society. The new autism law only determines guilt once the court can determine whether Chris's autism really affected his decision to have sex with Barb.

Sometimes I wonder how some how some draw the conclusion that Chris wants to rape people.

 

[AnOminous]

Sometimes I wonder how some how some draw the conclusion that Chris wants to rape people.

I think it might have something to do with the fact that he literally actually did rape his mom and admitted to wanting to rape Megan. I mean, that just might have something to do with why people believe that. The fact he literally admitted to wanting to rape people and actually did rape someone.

 

[Tangie]

If what his first letter since getting out of Western State tells us, the state determined he is competent to stand trial, hence why is currently back in CVRJ. Even if he does get ruled insane, Chris has the constitutional right to get released once deemed safe to himself and society. The new autism law only determines guilt once the court can determine whether Chris's autism really affected his decision to have sex with Barb.

Sometimes I wonder how some how some draw the conclusion that Chris wants to rape people.

When did I say he wants to rape people? I said he may be deemed insane and be stuck in the system the rest of his life. If he was deemed competent to stand trial why would they set the case for a review an entire year later? The trial would’ve happened. Seems the state/judge wants more info into his mental and to drag this out as long as possible.

It is not Chris’s constitutional right to be released if he in insane. They can keep him as long as they want if that happens until a doctor clears him. He has to no longer be suffering from whatever other disorders besides autism (because of the Virginia statute) he has.

PS

It’s funny you actually believe anything Chris says in his letters.

 

[AnOminous]

When did I say he wants to rape people?

More importantly why DIDN'T you say he wants to rape people? He openly admitted it. That's why he made the notorious shecameforcwc picture that made him a lolcow in the first place, and claimed he did it to overcome his overwhelming desire to rape Megan.

Spoiler

His openly expressed desire to rape people is literally why we even know his goddamn name.

 

[Kyuss]

After they're done and think they made Chris into a model citizen, he just transforms right back into his CPU Goddess form.

That's not uncommon at all. Most Inpatients learn the same way anyone else does. This works and this doesn't.
Slowly they build a face that is used when interacting with the powers that be, which is extremely draining and often leaders to further depression. Once they get home they drop that face for their real one.
You can over time even lose your face, disassociation is very common in the mentally ill. It's similar to the movie idea of split personality, but it's not nearly as dramatic. People don't just build 100% new personalities, there has never been a real citation that this is possible and it's impossible to peer review since like a lot of mental illnesses there is no control.
Instead think of it more like memory loss and slowly filling in the gaps with the mask that you believe was suppose to be there at a given memory. Over time the lines blur and you're not sure exactly which mask is which memory and you sort of bridge all of these memories which gives you a false past. Which is the disassociation.
Chris more than likely has blocked many of the past few years traumas or he is flat out remembering them wrong which is furthering his delusions. Remember that Chris did not start his first real adult experiences with responsibility until Bob died. 10-15 years after you normally would have come across them. He was fucked from the start.

If Chris is in psychiatric care I wonder if he’s one of those autistic people lost in the system and will end up 10-20 years there (It happens in the UK anyway so I assume there’s similar cases in the US).

It's not super common, but it's not unheard of. The leading issue with the healthcare system in USA is that the majority of health problems (including mental health) require the patient to actually want to change. You can see it across every disease in the books. Did you actually watch your diet? did you actually exercise? did you actually try to fight your addictions?
Most the time the answer, in your secret heart is you did not try as hard as you could have.
So you get a lot of people in healthcare who just keep coming back. In the case of mental health you might just not be allowed to leave. They really dislike letting people out who will just be homeless or returning again.

 

[Tangie]

More importantly why DIDN'T you say he wants to rape people? He openly admitted it. That's why he made the notorious shecameforcwc picture that made him a lolcow in the first place, and claimed he did it to overcome his overwhelming desire to rape Megan.

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His openly expressed desire to rape people is literally why we even know his goddamn name.

He definitely wanted to and thought about it, but he’d have rather made up chryzel or whatever the fuck their names were and fuck imaginary characters embodied by body pillows. I don’t even believe he thought he was raping barb, mainly because in his twisted mind she made the first move or that she somehow wanted it. He never thought of it as rape nor will it be proven in a court of law.

Edit: he definitely knew it was wrong (cause of the incest) but not rape

 

[AnOminous]

He never thought of it as rape nor will it be proven in a court of law.

He rammed his bent cock into a septuagenarian woman.

HE RAPED HIS MOM.

THAT IS WHAT HE DID. What the fuck is wrong with not facing that reality?

 

[Tangie]

He rammed his bent cock into a septuagenarian woman.

HE RAPED HIS MOM.

THAT IS WHAT HE DID. What the fuck is wrong with not facing that reality?

That’s not how he thought of it though nom nom

 

[Tangie]

Trust me, it should be charged as rape. But it would never happen with all the documented info on Barb. The defense would have a field day. It would be insanely hard to convince a jury that she was incompetent or had dementia or whatever.

 

[AnOminous]

Trust me, it should be charged as rape. But it would never happen with all the documented info on Barb. The defense would have a field day. It would be insanely hard to convince a jury that she was incompetent or had dementia or whatever.

Are you retarded? All they'd have to do was wheel out an obviously demented crazy septuagenarian and say "look at this bitch she's obviously demented." What is wrong with you?

 

[Tangie]

Are you retarded? All they'd have to do was wheel out an obviously demented crazy septuagenarian and say "look at this bitch she's obviously demented." What is wrong with you?

They’d do it if they could.

Like I said, the defense would have a field day. It’s not a matter of elder abuse it’s a matter of rape. The defense could simply present all the evidence of Barb asking for money in the year before and say she was competent enough for it to not be rape. If she had already been diagnosed with dementia, it would’ve been a different story. 1/12 jurors would see the entire christory and not be able to say for sure it was rape. Specifically the multiple times barb said she would kill herself. They could even say she wanted it due to her being so clingy with Chris, threatening suicide every time he wanted to go to a convention. The defense has so many angles to defend a rape charge, even though it was.

Don’t call me retarded. I’m thinking of this from a legal perspective. Do you have a hard time thinking of this from different perspectives and not a-logging? It’s okay nom nom I get it.

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

That’s not how he thought of it though nom nom

Does that matter, legally? He can think what he likes, it's still rape if Barb didn't want it.

 

[Jon Osterman]

Are you retarded? All they'd have to do was wheel out an obviously demented crazy septuagenarian and say "look at this bitch she's obviously demented." What is wrong with you?

I think what he's saying is that Chris could have been so delusional that in his mind, Barb had consented to it and it wasn't rape. In reality he obviously did rape Barb, but it could be that Chris thought she consented and it was "ok". And if that is what Chris actually believes, then he'd be found not guilty by reason of insanity because he didn't understand what he was doing (well not guilty for rape, still guilty for incest cause he clearly knew that was wrong).

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Does that matter, legally? He can think what he likes, it's still rape if Barb didn't want it.

He's tried to call is Soul Bonding / Healing but that was after he learned he dun'goofed, in the Bella call he was really blaze about it "The incest fanfictions have come true and shit" and called it sex with a older woman to null going so far as to call Barb a Girlfriend.

He was fully aware he was having sex, fully aware it was a social taboo and tried to brag about it and conceal it at the same time so he knows what he did was wrong but did it because he was able and barb wasnt able to resist or was a willing partner (my money is on the former) and he's talked about Sex with Barb in dreams going back years, and in the picture of him standing on the bed in her Bar an Knickers he's got a chubby on so it's something he has been thinking about for a VERY long time it's only recently he was able to act on it.

 

[Tangie]

Does that matter, legally? He can think what he likes, it's still rape if Barb didn't want it.

Yes, morally rape. Can it be proved legally? No. Or he would’ve been charged with rape.

 

[Ophelia]

Somewhere there must be a place where people can read about how difficult it is to mount an insanity defense and how it almost never works, even with actual schizophrenics.

 

[Jon Osterman]

Somewhere there must be a place where people can read about how difficult it is to mount an insanity defense and how it almost never works, even with actual schizophrenics.

From my armchair research, someone is not guilty by reason of insanity if during the offense, the person was so delusional or mentally incapacitated that they didn't understand what they were doing. If someone stabbed a person but believed they were just cutting a cake, then that would qualify. Or if they believed they killed a person in self defense when in actuality the victim did nothing, that would also qualify. What wouldn't qualify is if someone hallucinated that the person they were attacking was somebody else, or if they heard a voice tell them to kill a man and understood it was wrong to do so. In short, if someone understands that what they are doing is illegal, they can't be found insane, no matter what they suffer from.
For a statistic, 1% of cases try the insanity plea, and only 26% succeed. It is very unlikely that it ever works, probably because it's very hard to prove that a person was so far gone they didn't understand what they were doing to any degree.
Chris in my opinion is a somewhat interesting case. He clearly understood that incest was wrong, attempting to hide that fact for as long as possible before slipping up like he always does with secrets. So no matter what nonsense he says about healing her or letting her pass on, he would not qualify for the insanity plea for that account. As for the rape portion, it's possible that he didn't understand what he was doing there. Maybe he really did believe that Barb consented (the less likely scenario imo), in which case he didn't understand what he was doing was wrong and could be found not guilty (of the rape charge). Convincing people of that would still be very difficult however, so it's unlikely any insanity plea would actually work.
If anyone wants to do their own research, there's the link above As well as this one that is specifically the defense according to Virginia.

 

[Ophelia]

From my armchair research, someone is not guilty by reason of insanity if during the offense, the person was so delusional or mentally incapacitated that they didn't understand what they were doing.

Thanks for writing all this down. I was being sarcastic since people have explained it several times, but you put it well. It gives us something to link to tomorrow when someone else comes in proclaiming Chris will get an insanity plea.

If someone stabbed a person but believed they were just cutting a cake, then that would qualify.

But the lawyer has to prove his client really truly and honestly believed he was cutting a cake and it’s not as easy to prove as it may sound.