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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Russian crybaby upset at some shapes. I would say they should put some US vehicle chevrons but it would likely be confused for that faggy V symbol the vatniks are fond of.
That's rich coming from crippled by pathological Soviet nostalgia vatniks who still thinks it's 40's.
 
Screencap this. The whole deal with Belarus is not a feint. Monkee will go for Kiev again next year.

I'm not so sure about that.

Lukashenko instructed to mobilise people for harvesting crops

In this regard, the President instructed to mobilise everyone for harvesting work and criticised the statements that somewhere in a secondary school it is forbidden to involve schoolchildren in agricultural works, “I cannot imagine more wildness, Igor Petrovich [Igor Sergeyenko, the Head of the Belarus President Administration]. We somehow try to educate our schoolchildren. How will you educate them? Through idle talks? You will not bring them up via idle talks.”

The President cited Soviet times as an example, when schoolchildren and students were actively harvesting potatoes and other crops, “This brings people together. They understand what it is. Today there are entrepreneurs who are ready to pay decent money for potatoes, apples, and so on but some say it’s ‘exploitation’. Listen, what kind of exploitation if a person goes and works for five or six hours?! Both parents are happy, and their children are in good physical condition. Therefore, mobilise students, workers, civil servants, and other people to help harvest everything, because we can earn decent money. If not now, then in spring.”


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Typical Vatnik bullshit, going on and on about past glories(while ignoring the armies in the west and south that also got defeated, and not by the people vatniks like to LARP as)and not paying attention to the present. WW2 this isn't, and the Russian army in Ukraine is currently a tremendous fucking embarrassment.
 
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Ziggers right now are sounding like a faggot leftie who picked a fight and got their ass beat going, “Guys he’s LITERALLY wearing a maga hat!!!”
 
I'm not so sure about that.

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Genuinely would not surprise me if lukashenko is simply trying to outlast putin so he might finally take control of the union state as was originally planned back in the 90s
 
Typical Vatnik bullshit, going on and on about past glories(while ignoring the the armies in the west and south that also got defeated, and not by the people vatniks like to LARP as)and not paying attention to the present. WW2 this isn't, and the Russian army in Ukraine is currently a tremendous fucking embarrassment.
Ret. Gen. Ben Hodges put it succinctly last month: "The supposed second-best army in the world is now the second-best army in Ukraine."
 
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Why wouldn't they, everyone now knows generalplan ost was fake and the wehrmarcht got close to liberating the entire east from the barbarity of comminism
 
There is far more to military training than just learning how to operate a rifle. Navigation., communications, small unit tactics, conducting operations in cooperation with armor and artillery units...and that's just basic grunt stuff. That doesn't even take into account more specialized roles and the additional training those troops undergo to learn their jobs. Seriously, it almost like Putin wants to lose and drive his country into a century or more of abject ruination.
Agreed. It's worth noting that while we think of tank crew as having to understand advanced stuff and infantry as relatively basic "grunts", the US spends just as much time training a tankman as an infantryman
 
Agreed. It's worth noting that while we think of tank crew as having to understand advanced stuff and infantry as relatively basic "grunts", the US spends just as much time training a tankman as an infantryman
Otherwise, things like this happen
 
Otherwise, things like this happen
“Our military parade only had 1% casualties. It was a grand success!”
Agreed. It's worth noting that while we think of tank crew as having to understand advanced stuff and infantry as relatively basic "grunts", the US spends just as much time training a tankman as an infantryman
The number of casualties that the Russians suffered in WWII were exacerbated by communist ineptitude and indifference. I’d argue they lost so many people to the war and to later incompetence that it doomed the Soviet Union to lose the Cold War.
 
In other news, Russian soldiers are poorly equipped for battle, they either have to scavenge or buy their own equipment:


Is anyone with brain cells really surprised by this? This is a military that runs on corruption, after all. "YOU MUST GIVE YOUR LIFE FOR YOUR MOTHERLAND! Also, your motherland won't provide you good government-issue gear, so you get old hand-me-downs or you have to buy your own supplies. LOL."

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It's the symbol of a German army that kicked Russia's ass in WW1 so hard, to the point where the Commies had to make peace with them, and the same army gave the Russians hell in WW2 and would've defeated them if not for material and military aid from the Western Allies.

Not to mention that they're getting aid from Germany, so there's no harm in adopting their symbols.
 
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Ret. Gen. Ben Hodges put it succinctly last month: "The supposed second-best army in the world is now the second-best army in Ukraine."
And in war, second-best is dead last.
In other news, Russian soldiers are poorly equipped for battle, they either have to scavenge or buy their own equipment:
Putin wanted the glory days of he 40's back, and he's got them. Rifle, helmet, uniform, ammo and vodka for every infantryman. Food, medical supplies, and replacements for any of that are things he'll have to find on his own. Builds character, you know?
Agreed. It's worth noting that while we think of tank crew as having to understand advanced stuff and infantry as relatively basic "grunts", the US spends just as much time training a tankman as an infantryman
The USA learned the hard way in WW2 what having incompletely trained infantry does for combat effectiveness. There's a reason that 20 years of war had an average annual body count on our end of less than half of Chicago's.

Yes, you were unironically more likely to die in Chicago's South Side than deployed to Iraq during the War on Terror.
 
The USA learned the hard way in WW2 what having incompletely trained infantry does for combat effectiveness.
That would be wrong as the U.S. military trained everyone completely before sending them over to fight. Problem was they were inexperienced and initially placed under command of the English who viewed them as more disposable cannon fodder. If you're referring to their performance at Kesserine Pass.
 
That would be wrong as the U.S. military trained everyone completely before sending them over to fight. Problem was they were inexperienced and initially placed under command of the English who viewed them as more disposable cannon fodder. If you're referring to their performance at Kesserine Pass.
No, actually. Our initial training procedures during the war were incomplete with the expectation that the infantryman would learn most of his trade in the field. Further, all the way up until the very end the US Army ground forces were put at the bottom of the priority list for quality manpower, especially those of intelligence and technical aptitude. Your typical USAAF field cook was likely to be of a superior caliber of man compared to a US infantryman for most of the war. By the end we had revised our curriculum to be far more complete and efficient using the lessons learned by divisions in the field. And Kasserine was all us, unfortunately. Thankfully the man responsible got sacked immediately after the battle, and then 15 days after his replacement showed up we fought the far more successful Battle of El Guettar.
 
Word on the street is that Russia is moving out nuclear subs.

I hope to God they're just sabre rattling and they're not retarded enough to start launching tactical strikes.
We're getting ready with our nuclear subs, too.


It's just that with Russia's budget and culture of corruption, I wouldn't be surprised if the nuclear sub exploded when it tries to launch its nuke.
 
We're getting ready with our nuclear subs, too.


It's just that with Russia's budget and culture of corruption, I wouldn't be surprised if the nuclear sub exploded when it tries to launch its nuke.
That would be the best case scenario if they decided to go completely insane, or having their nukes fizzle when they attempt to launch.
 
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