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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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40s called, asked for their guns back
First I stumbled upon it on social media and had to find an article talking about it. C-60, WWII-era anti-aircraft guns. I have no idea what Russian army is planning to do with these.
is it this gun?

they're probably not going to hit modern jets with it, but it's still good for shooting down helicopters
will shred light vehicles too if it can be pointed at the ground
 
He has poor impulse control and thinks he knows better about things than he actually does. It's great in some circumstances (SpaceX got its start because he woke up one morning and just decided he wanted to go to Mars), but he keeps fucking himself over with it. He also thinks (probably rightly) that staying in the news averages out to a net positive for his stock prices.

Personally, I think he should just shut up for a week and go back to buying Twitter. That's the funny rocket man I prefer. He can send Ukraine a bill.

I'm not all "Daddy Elon is going to take us to mars", but Elon is a "Great Man" - a mix of vision, intellect, drive, and the resources to enact all the other thing. He is a modern Edison.
And much like Edison, he's a fickle taskmaster to work for an a credit-stealing glory hog. But back in Edison's day there was enough of a barrier around him (and newspapers that weren't just salacious gossip rags) that the stories about him being a thieving dick didn't really get out until after he was made legendary. Twitter is allowing us to get a glimpse of them as they really exist.

tl;dr: we can't have Edisons, Vanderbilts, or Carnegies anymore because of Twitter.
 
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is it this gun?

they're probably not going to hit modern jets with it, but it's still good for shooting down helicopters
will shred light vehicles too if it can be pointed at the ground
Yeah. If it works, it works, and the age doesn't matter. Just look at Browning's masterpieces being used over a hundred years on and counting.
 
You guys better stop huffing copium and accept reality. This war is likely to extend past a year mark, Russia exhausted its forces to the point that they're chasing people down on the streets of Moscow to plug holes on the front and are rolling out WWII-era gear. Putin wanted quick annexation and a coup over few weeks at most, but he got himself war instead. Doesn't matter what he decides to call it.
There won't be return on investment for Russia in this, regardless of what happens next. It cost too much in military assets, in reputation, in political capital, in relationships and in human lives... Losses all around. All this to sink Ukraine, who wasn't even supposed to be a real opponent, but a stepping stone on their retarded journey toward "multipolar world".
Never underestimate the amount of men with shitty gear Russia can throw at its enemies. This is the number one rule for anyone fighting against Russia. Even with NATO and US gibs, Russia is a real danger and should be treated seriously at all times, until its armies have retreated within its borders. There are many short clips of "mobiks" and gays getting fucked by some Ukraine drone, many narratives about collapsing logistics and corruption, which might be coming from a core of truth, but Russia can mobilize in full, put its economy on full blast to churn out cheap, dumb tanks and artillery, and proceed to suicide 80% of its youth in Ukraine - if the dear leader sees fit and nobody overthrows his government.
 
How much of that is paid for from the money earned selling rocket space to the US government is anyone's guess, but I don't believe the US military has placed any satellites into orbit with SpaceX in any case.
SpaceX launched it's first DoD payload in 2012. Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy are National Security Space Launch certified which allows them to launch classified DoD and NRO payloads. SpaceX currently has contract for 40% of NSSLs until 2027.
 
What's Musk's problem?
If he wants to get paid for his product, fine, arrange a payment deal, it's not like Ukraine doesn't have the cash for it.
But what the hell is this internet stutter bullshit, right after you basically told the winning side to give up and submit to the enemy whose ass you're kicking?
Maintaining Starlink probably isn't cheap. Also higher electricity costs and high tensions between countries don't help if you want to sell electric cars and other products world wide.
When it comes to money, the Ukrainian government is always willing to pay for weapons and tools. But when it comes to infrastructure provided by foreign companies they might hesitate to pay for it.
 
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>9 months later
>we never even said that, that was an anglo-saxon psyop
>inventing an obvious agitprop piece without even a pretension of reality to demoralize an enemy
>hOw aRe yoU hAvIng cAsUalItIes iF GhoSt of KyiV?!?!
No one is a match for the United Anglo Nations
Yeah we enslave most of Africa
Conquered most of India
Conquered most of the North American continent went to the Moon
Would have you subhuman vodka Niger has ever done nothing
 

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No one is a match for the United Anglo Nations
Yeah we enslave most of Africa
Conquered most of India
Conquered most of the North American continent went to the Moon
Would have you subhuman vodka Niger has ever done nothing
You can scratch those New Zealand hobbits off the list. Their membership was revoked the minute they got pissy about US nuclear carriers and subs anywhere near their shores. Same with the Leafs because their faggot asses have bought G*rman Leopards instead of the Abrams or a Brit tank.
 
Never underestimate the amount of men with shitty gear Russia can throw at its enemies. This is the number one rule for anyone fighting against Russia. Even with NATO and US gibs, Russia is a real danger and should be treated seriously at all times, until its armies have retreated within its borders. There are many short clips of "mobiks" and gays getting fucked by some Ukraine drone, many narratives about collapsing logistics and corruption, which might be coming from a core of truth, but Russia can mobilize in full, put its economy on full blast to churn out cheap, dumb tanks and artillery, and proceed to suicide 80% of its youth in Ukraine - if the dear leader sees fit and nobody overthrows his government.
Cheap dumb tanks that have the technology process of being droned to death. War changed bub, you can send out 30 dudes all backed up with tanks but then have it annihilated by some zoomer sitting fifty miles away on a computer.
 
You guys better stop huffing copium and accept reality. This war is likely to extend past a year mark, Russia exhausted its forces to the point that they're chasing people down on the streets of Moscow to plug holes on the front and are rolling out WWII-era gear. Putin wanted quick annexation and a coup over few weeks at most, but he got himself war instead. Doesn't matter what he decides to call it.
There won't be return on investment for Russia in this, regardless of what happens next. It cost too much in military assets, in reputation, in political capital, in relationships and in human lives... Losses all around. All this to sink Ukraine, who wasn't even supposed to be a real opponent, but a stepping stone on their retarded journey toward "multipolar world".

A year? This is going to go for as long as Putin lives +/- 6 months.


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Ukraine's vast untapped gas reserves lined up to supply energy to Europe​

Country in talks with American drilling companies to bring its resources to the market

Ukraine is in talks with US drillers to pump gas from its vast untapped reserves to Europe and ease the region’s energy crisis by the end of the decade, The Telegraph can reveal.
Naftogaz, Ukraine’s state-owned oil and gas giant, is preparing to market its national gas reserves, the second-largest in Europe, to international drillers and is already in discussion with US firms.
A move to prise open the reserves could help Europe find new sources of gas once the war in Ukraine ends and help countries shift away from more expensive liquified natural gas (LNG) imports. The company has identified huge gas reserves waiting to be tapped, including in the Dnipro-Donets Basin.
Myron Wasylyk, adviser to the Naftogaz’s chief executive, told the Telegraph it has held discussions with US companies about joint agreements to prise open the reserves. Naftogaz “soon will be marketing some of the projects”, he added.
Mr Wasylyk said: “We have a number of resources and gas reserves there that are basically the second largest in Europe. There is exploration potential there and also export potential there. We estimate there could be up to 40 billion cubic metres.
“There is a lot of potential there but it won’t come online until the second half of this decade… We have a number of basins which are currently undeveloped.”
He said tapping the reserves would “absolutely” help meet Europe’s future gas needs. Europe is scrambling to find alternative supplies following Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.
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Tapping the reserves in Ukraine will likely depend on the direction of the war, though its army has been retaking huge swathes of territory from Russian forces. The bulk of Ukraine’s gas production and reserves are east of the Dnipro River, which cuts through the centre of Ukraine.
Russia supplied around 40pc of Europe’s natural gas before the war but the Kremlin has been choking off supplies ahead of what threatens to be a bleak winter for the region. There are fears the shut-off could spark power shortages this winter, though gas prices have fallen in recent weeks after a successful drive to boost storage levels.
Benchmark European gas prices have more than halved to €145 per megawatt hour since peaking in August. Prices have fallen thanks to successful efforts to cut energy consumption on the Continent and as European gas storage levels have risen above 90pc.
However, experts still warn that much will still depend on Europe avoiding a particularly cold winter that forces households and businesses to turn up the thermostat.
Figures from think tank Bruegel suggest gas imports to the EU and UK from Russia are down by more than 80pc in recent weeks compared to a year ago. Meanwhile LNG imports are double 2021 levels and are on track to hit record highs in 2022. LNG is more costly compared to the cheap Russian gas Europe is used to.
Analysts have warned gas prices are likely to remain high this winter despite recent falls.
UBS analyst Henri Patricot said: “We expect prices to remain very volatile as a further drop in Russian exports or full interruption would mean a potential gas shortfall in Europe this winter and this could see [benchmark European gas prices] move back above €200 per kilowatt hour as it did in August/September.
“We see Europe continuing to attract LNG volumes but at a still elevated cost next year, as LNG supply additions remain limited and Europe needs to squeeze more price sensitive Asian buyers.”
 
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Ukrainian volunteer detachment commander brags about “disappearing” those accused of filming AFU rockets: “We haven’t got time to put them in jail.”


More hilarious hohol propaganda


Ukraine officials continue being silent on heavy losses. “Look for the missing!” – a rally of relatives of the servicemen of the 24th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who went missing is taking place in Lviv.
 
Russian officer insults Allah, Muslim conscript commits mass shooting.


One of those present at the training ground in Belgorod during the execution by some mobilized others told the Astra Telegram channel that the cause of the conflict could be religious - shortly before the incident, Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Lapin said that Allah is a coward, since he does not allow Muslims to fight for a country where you took an oath. The authors of the material emphasize that at the time of publication they were unable to independently confirm the identity of either the narrator himself or the identity of other persons appearing in the story.

“It all started with the fact that some of our soldiers — a Dagestani, an Azerbaijani and an Adyghe — said that “this is not our war” and tried to write a report that they did not want to serve anymore. Lieutenant Colonel Andrey Lapin, when he learned this through the company commander, he gathered everyone and began to say that “this is a holy war,” says the narrator, whose name is not called for his safety.

According to the interlocutor, hearing about the "holy war", the Muslims were indignant, since this concept "means a war between Muslims and infidels." Then Lapin called Allah a coward. This was the main reason for the further conflict, the narrator says, many were taken aback when they heard such a statement from the lieutenant colonel.

Within an hour and a half, everyone was sent to the shooting range, three natives of Tajikistan deployed their machine guns and shot Lapin, who died on the spot. They then opened fire indiscriminately. According to the narrator, he saw 30 dead, including Lapin. Two shooters were also killed, the third managed to escape. The military man also calls their names - Bikzot, Anush, and junior sergeant Ami. The last one managed to escape.

The military also notes that those who opened fire were ardent supporters of their faith and repeatedly cursed with the command for not being allowed to pray on time and for not being allocated a prayer room.
Perhaps they should've gotten some religious sensitivity training?
 
World War II was started by one Winston Churchill and two Franklin Delano Roosevelt
It was to keep the British in complete control of Europe and the rest of the world which is funny because it completely backfired
This is almost on par with “Rome didn’t exist.”
Russian officer insults Allah, Muslim conscript commits mass shooting.



Perhaps they should've gotten some religious sensitivity training?
I’m not surprised. This is what happens when you draft people who are opposed to the state and arm them. There’ll be more incidents like this.
 
This is almost on par with “Rome didn’t exist.”

I’m not surprised. This is what happens when you draft people who are opposed to the state and arm them. There’ll be more incidents like this.
Here's hoping, maybe drawbacks accumulate enough for them to realize that this whole thing is a terrible fucking idea.
 
That private company failed to get anything in legal writing or on govt. contracts on the terms of how long, and how much and everything else I missed. Since Musk volunteered StarLinks services to the war effort he on the hook until Uncle Sam said otherwise. All this because Musk didn't check with his legal and financial departments first.

I may well entirely wrong and he had via Starlink got the paperwork done first. But it leads to him wanting to publicly cancel it. Which again leads to the issue of breaking contract which right in the middle of a military conflict. Where that shit won't fly with either U.S. govt legal department, and those individuals you never want a visit from.
If he did volunteer it then he is free to withdraw free usage anytime he wants, what will they do? Take him to court? "Give me that service back for free...." Good luck winning that.
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Or they will force continued usage because Ukraine literally doesn't have an alternative communication system. If they lose Starlink they're blinded.

If he did enter into a contract, then he fucked up. Giving anything to Ukraine is a waste of resources. Just take a look at Zelensky demanding another $5 billion like the entitled prick he is or his second in command begging for air defence systems because they're getting heavily shit on by rocket attacks.

These rockets aren't even subsonic and they have no defences.
 
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