Didn’t see this posted, apologies if it’s old.
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archived 30 Aug 2022 20:13:41 UTC
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This story is amazing. Ignore the sexual assault stuff, this troon thought the way to turn on another dude was to show him child pornography. On a
"first date" "movie night" after the necessary multiple intoxicants he goes straight for his sickest fetish.
Charlie on Always Sunny telling that blind date he's a "full on rapist" while sweating through his shirt is smoother than this dude:
Why is he putting content warnings
after the content? Am I supposed to read these semi-backwards?
"oh my god, there are videos of women being asphyxiated with plastic bags" -- have you considered for a moment that maybe some of those women _enjoy_ it and are getting paid to, and it's a fun day at work for them?
"being a sex worker would also actually be pretty high up on my list, because I'd get paid to do something I like? I seriously considered applying to work w/ kink\.com "
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archived 16 Oct 2022 10:40:41 UTC
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Amazing.
Dude is so coom-brained he misses the most obvious and charitable way to describe a porn star: actor. It's not real like all other acting! It's a
production! How could someone seriously think people in porn are seriously enjoying everything? He seriously thinks they pop up a camera and somebody goes "action" and they just wing it enjoying themselves while perfectly framed until the cumshot that happens to be perfectly framed. And absolutely nobody does anything they don't truly enjoy, they
never go "yeah, I'll do that for extra" and fake it. Even the stars don't realize it's a performance, they just feel lucky they get to do what they love and get to display their love.
Yeah, there's real homemade stuff now all over the internet, but it's still a
performance usually. Do you think people other than legit voyeurs would watch the "first time" you did anything sexual? How many of your other times? I'm a big ol chad (obviously, I post on the Kiwi Farms) but I doubt anyone wants to watch me giving so many women constant orgasms.
Also, I love that his idea is "well, I go work on Kink.com's tech and maybe they'll be like 'shit, we need another girl, grab Liz from IT' and then I become a full time porn star" because you know this is absolutely his thinking here.
Yeah, I've read that a porn movie director once stated that a lot of women in the sex industry are "mentally damaged" and need therapy more that sex in front of a camera. It is indeed a predatory and exploitative environment.
Also, I'd like to add that Dong Long Gon still doesn't probably understand the meaning of the word "job". When he writes about "getting paid to do something I like" he seems to think that he would be able to have sex whenever he wants with whoever he wants. But sex work is not like that: you MUST have sex even if you don't want, and have to do it even with people you don't like, because bills need to be paid. When you're hired to star in a porn movie, you can't say "no shooting today because I don't feel like it", because you'd be fired on the spot.
You're not there to enjoy yourself, you're there to entertain the coomers. But, as you said, Elliot sees sex work from the limited perspective of a coomer, so for him it looks like heaven on earth.
The more I hear trannies talk, the more it's evident that they don't get that the life they live is not the one of a woman, but a distorted parody of it: they live in a sex-obsessed online world where women are constantly horny. They don't get that being a prostitute is the most degrading thing that a woman can do, and the ones who resort to prostitution are only the most desperate ones who have run out of options to bring bread on the table. We could say that every tranny is a coomer who crossed the line.
I've been thinking there is a distinction in the troon mind and the unique narcissistic way it views porn that's important. The troon wants to be the female porn star who is the center of attention and has sex at a drop of a hat in porn. They don't want to be the usually nameless male who is there to do his job and supply his penis and little else. They don't want to be the female before and after the scene when she has to go live her life outside that persona's performance. They just want to be "her" in that moment. Forever.
Like, look at how Elliot describes the porn star life, he's clearly never invested any time in finding about these women
as a person. It's possible, especially these days, lots of them have Twitter accounts for example. There's forums they post on, "blogs" were a big thing for a while, I'm sure streaming is now. Lots of that is an act too, but the industry also knows there's lots of money in making a "real" connection with fans. (If this sounds like regular acting or music or... DUH!) His "porn star ideal" is out there and she's actually into a lot of kinky shit but even she probably is admitting that the porn is a performance even if she actually enjoys all those acts in her personal life. I'm thinking about someone like that former porn star who just broke her tailbone at TwitchCon, she says she enjoys lots of the stuff she did in porn (feel free to be skeptical, I won't for my argument) but she's also open and honest about the business and performance and so on. That honesty is probably part of her appeal to the fans willing to follow her outside of porn into Twitch streaming! If you gave Elliot a video of her where she does a bunch of kinky shit, then starts talking about her day and interests do you imagine him as the type of person who sticks around? Lots of troons who find their way on here don't strike me as that type.
I'll admit I've probably looked into this industry aspect more than most but I thought it was interesting to read and learn about, just like with regular movie production/business, and like lolcows many of the people involved in this stuff are completely insane. I don't expect others to have anywhere near that understanding or similar viewpoint of porn but Elliot (and his type) basically doesn't seem to think of them as actual people with actual lives, he doesn't think of the porn as an actual business run like any other business, it's not fictional to him, etc. It's hard not to think of this kind of thinking about porn as something so stereotypically
male.