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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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If there's one positive thing I can say about Russians is that they're shooting their conscription officers and lighting their offices on fire instead of wearing tyedye and listening to awful music.

Ironic given the Ruskie fucks funded the hippies and are 99% of the reason "the west is degenerate". Fuckers should have to pay in pure suffering for the long march through the institutions. The fact I can't give a fuck about the environment without having to deal with faggots who got brainwashed by their agents into wanting to sabotage western infrastructure alone makes me want Moscow flattened. The fact so called right wing people are willing to forgive and simp for these faggots despite the damage they inflicted on the western world just makes me think they are nothing more than contrarians with 4chan poisoned brains.

A question for any Russians here. How the fuck do people there seemingly ignore he fact that Russia is just as responsible as the Nazis for WW2? Just brainwashed to not think about it? Obviously don't be like the germoids about it but jesus it's like half your fault.
Indeed, the Beatniks and later Counter Culture of the 60s did originate on a KGB desk as a draft in some desk drawer. Only recently has the sixties generation mostly departed the public forum, but their damage is still with us. Unfortunately good few Americans and Euros read hypocritical family values language from the kisser of little boys' belly button, one time director of the Red Army Faction in Germany, terrorist and pederast and think maybe this Putin is a man to hear out, when contrasted to Biden's poorly recited lines given him by his handlers. The prison bitch army culture, rampant, world leading divorce and abortion rate in Russia plus general indifferent to religion except in a limited demonstrative sense is denied or ignored. A big source of their news are sketchy blogs whose points ultimately originate in the mind of Margarita Simonyan.

One notable simp for me, whether dupe or agent, apart from obviously Tucker Carlson, is arch Catholic traditionalist Michael Matt of the 60 year Remnant Magazine who still approvingly quotes the suspected pederast and divorced Putin as a values leader.

There needs to be a reckoning, a disgracing for dupes and agents of Russia. Essentially the Reds of old sought to generate conflict and the successor state, the Putin Empire does the same.
 
What...? No essay full of retard rhetoric and your obsession with pederasts as a reply....



That's an entertaining way of saying you're completely misinformed.
This is a picture of Germany winning a war. Despite 4 years of allied offensives, Germany still controls a huge part of Belgium including Brussels. In the meantime, millions of British and French soldiers have been slain.
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Wtf are you talking about?
Russia took Kherson and still hold it even after another failed offensive by Ukraine last weekend.
The very fact that it's under threat of being retaken speaks volumes. You lot are masters at moving goalposts, so let me remind you:
Russia's original objective was to demilitarize and subjugate Ukraine, so that they could at the very least annex Eastern Ukraine and absorb it without much resistance.

I can bet Putin and his dumbass generals could've never imagined they'd get bogged down like this. One thing Putin wouldn't tolerate is being embarrassed in front of the entire world, which is what's been happening for at least half a year now, hence there's no way any of this is going according to his genius plan. There's no recouping the cost this war incurred on Russia regardless of their success at this point. Because it revitalized NATO and made the West conscious of the mongoloid threat, all the while Russia is crippling itself trying to salvage the mess they made, only digging itself deeper. Sunk-cost fallacy is a bitch, and Putin is a DSP among world leaders.

Retard.
 
The very fact that it's under threat of being retaken speaks volumes. You lot are masters at moving goalposts, so let me remind you:
Russia's original objective was to demilitarize and subjugate Ukraine, so that they could at the very least annex Eastern Ukraine and absorb it without much resistance.

No it wasn't. Your pretense is incorrect so the rest of your dribbling idiocy isn't worth reading.

Retard.
 
No it wasn't. Your pretense is incorrect so the rest of your dribbling idiocy isn't worth reading.

Retard.
LMAO you for real?
You're going to pretend that he never said these things?
"Oh, it's not annexation, no-no, it's just liberation [from legitimate rule]. Just sign here and here, and you're now independent free to join Russia! We totally didn't pump mercs and weapons into Donbas region to destabilize Ukraine over the last 8 years since we took Crimea... that wasn't annexation either btw!"

So you're also a disingenuous twat on top of being retarded, good to know.
 
A thread on Russian forces in Belarus and why an invasion from there isn't realistic:
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It's partly distraction put partly soldiers sent for training since Russian training grounds are overloaded.

Meanwhile, Russia continues to destroy civilian utilities in time for winter:
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Both Russia and Iran are denying that Iranian drones are being used even though everyone knows they are.

There is significant unrest in Iran right now but it's hard to believe it will change the government.
 
LMAO you for real?
You're going to pretend that he never said these things?
"Oh, it's not annexation, no-no, it's just liberation [from legitimate rule]. Just sign here and here, and you're now independent free to join Russia! We totally didn't pump mercs and weapons into Donbas region to destabilize Ukraine over the last 8 years since we took Crimea... that wasn't annexation either btw!"

So you're also a disingenuous twat on top of being retarded, good to know.

His stated goal was to demilitarise and de-Nazify. His stated aim was to protect people from eight years of genocide from the Ukraine government. He didn't say subjugate.

Also cite something better than NYT before you claim someone else is disingenuous otherwise you're just another mush-brained cunt.
 
His stated goal was to demilitarise and de-Nazify. His stated aim was to protect people from eight years of genocide from the Ukraine government. He didn't say subjugate.
The entire Kiev offensive/feint(lmao)'s existence at the beginning of the SMO kinda invalidates that assertion
 
There is no parallel to the Ukrainian conflict here.
Both modern russia and naaaazi Germany are dictatorships conducting genocide.
His stated goal was to demilitarise and de-Nazify.
And that was a lie.

His stated aim was to protect people from eight years of genocide from the Ukraine government.
Double lie. The only war crimes and genocide was conducted by russia monkeys.

He didn't say subjugate.
Obviously the 30th september was a deep fake from nazi jews.
 
We'll see what's said after Russia wins.

I doubt they will, but lets say for argument's sake they do.

If Russia defeats Ukraine, it will suck for Ukraine, but in a broader sense, Russia will still have lost. Russia is an embarrassment and a laughing stock right now. They've shown just how inept they are. How bad their technology is. They've shown the entire world that they are not the superpower they claimed to be and most (stupid) people thought they were. They're little better than any other banana republic or tinpot dictatorship, just physically larger, and they might still have nukes, if any of them work and they are willing to use them. And in the process they've been hurt significantly both militarily and economically. They've made enemies of almost the entire world, and their reputation is in even worse tatters than it was before.

And even if that hypothetical happens and they defeat Ukraine... what have they gained in trade for that? A ruined shell of a country that hates them. That ''victory" would have been too expensive at half the price.
 
Russia isn't trying to change the Ukraine government either wtf are you on about?
His stated goal was to demilitarise and de-Nazify. His stated aim was to protect people from eight years of genocide from the Ukraine government. He didn't say subjugate.

Also cite something better than NYT before you claim someone else is disingenuous otherwise you're just another mush-brained cunt.
You know what I hate about these shills? They don't realize we remember what they posted just a few hours ago. Naturally I fully expect a response detailing how Putin de-Nazifying the Ukrainian government wouldn't include any changes in leadership or organization.
Considering Zelensky is the one who instated the draft and forced people to stay, there is nobody in Ukraine with more choice than Zelensky.

Globalism: it seems asinine but I will point out my problem isn't with it as a concept (If I hate people cooperating across borders why would I be on the internet?) but it is a more convenient term than listing organizations such as the UN, the EU, various corporate think tanks, and all the rest of the rich assholes that are ruining the west, along with all the disgusting folks and blue checkmarks who were the first to call for support of Ukraine and pump out fairy tales to garner support. I don't exactly support the choice of others in joining their ranks one way or another, as I myself do not like these people. I know it is convenient for you all to forget, but the 2014 revolution was heavily backed by western interests who didn't like that Ukraine's current president favored a deal with Russia over their less favorable deal. Sure subterfuge and encouraging and arming a coup it isn't rolling through cities and dropping vacuum bombs and threatening the world with nuclear war, but the lone underdog being threatened by a completely unrelated distant enemy narrative was simply never true. This is a pissing contest and a power struggle between foreign powers with Ukraine in the middle of it. Naturally then my hope is the every day people and even the soldiers caught in the middle of it get to go home (or in many cases stay home) and enjoy their lives rather than be caught in the middle of a rotten war in the name of rotten people.
Man, you've graduated from "Twitch streamer" to "victim of Vlad the Impaler". Impressive.
 
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