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[Trilby]

Honestly, Slade was my favorite besides Thunder & Lightning. No other villain on the show got to me except for Slade. He gave me chills every time I saw him. Honestly, I thought most of the other villains were lame or unimpressive even for kid’s superhero show, including Trigon.

Speaking of Trigon...

Let this be a lesson to them; don’t listen to politically correct or idiots on twitter.

So true.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

Same. Glade he's back in season 4. Even though so far it sucks.
simp ass cyborg, soy ass beast boy, sorry ass robin, and weak ass ape-face

You know, you ever go back and watch some of these superhero shows and realize you like the villains more than the heroes?

I’ve watched reruns of Batman: TAS, and I’ve come to realize I’ve always like the villains more than Batman & Robin. Even as kid, I always wanted to see episodes with Joker or Mad Hatter or some villain instead of some regular crook.

 

[God of Nothing]

You know, you ever go back and watch some of these superhero shows and realize you like the villains more than the heroes?

Yes. Really, consequences of making them the competent and pro-active ones.
except i still love pete in spectacular more than i do his villains
and the main trio in Filoni Wars

 

[Niggerphobe]

Disney uploaded the first owl house season 3 episode on yt

https://youtu.be/dRfTRN1F5Ys

 

[Introvertigo]

Man, those are the worst examples of originality, filled by shit diversity and such.
Better killing CN before becoming a abomination.

Cartoon Network is not dead, it still exists.

https://www.twitter.com/cartoonnetwork/status/1581019585478037504

https://www.twitter.com/Garyfan84724915/status/1581072437810122753

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

Cartoon Network is not dead, it still exists.

https://www.twitter.com/cartoonnetwork/status/1581019585478037504

https://www.twitter.com/Garyfan84724915/status/1581072437810122753

Letting it as a walking corpse isn't existance man.
But yeah, i get the point.

 

[God of Nothing]

Finished season 4 of Teen Titans. Better than 3 but honestly not by much. Slade, of course, was the best part of it. And this little moment. Really don't want to watch season 5 because this was the real ending of the show: the cosmic evil is defeated, the better evil is back, and everyone is looking at a brighter future

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

Yes. Really, consequences of making them the competent and pro-active ones.

Another good point, the villains tend to be more pro-active and smarter than the heroes.

except i still love pete in spectacular more than i do his villains

Understandable, but my favorite characters were Tombstone and Green Goblin.

Finished season 4 of Teen Titans. Better than 3 but honestly not by much. Slade, of course, was the best part of it. And this little moment. Really don't want to watch season 5 because this was the real ending of the show: the cosmic evil is defeated, the better evil is back, and everyone is looking at a brighter future

I’ll say this once and I’ll say it again, villains like Slade are better than villains like Trigon. I know villains like Trigon are powerful conquerors but I feel like they’re not that intimidating despite their outer appearance. It’s just that I feel like some of them lack a certain appeal to make them truly terrifying.

 

[God of Nothing]

I’ll say this once and I’ll say it again, villains like Slade are better than villains like Trigon. I know villains like Trigon are powerful conquerors but I feel like they’re not that intimidating despite their outer appearance. It’s just that I feel like some of them lack a certain appeal to make them truly terrifying.

Slade is the best type of villain: the kind that would be dangerous even if he lacked his powers or skills. He is perfectly willing to let go of his new fire demon phantom shit in favor of being alive and normal again. The man understands true power is the power to let power go. And, in the end, he's the one who fucks up Trigon enough for the Titans to finish him off.

It amazes me that there is so little of his type. Then again, that requires a level of writing beyond most people. Weird how the first immediate character that comes to mind like him to me is from fanfic, but that's just how rare they are. We'll likely never see any villain quite like him for some time, and that is fucking depressing.

 

[garbanzobean]

Imagine willingly paying $2K to have an interview with Butch Hartman only for your almost 30 year old girlfriend to tell your hero that you both made your relationship official when you went to go see a Fairly Odd Parents musical and have her talk for a large chunk of said interview?

 

[Somerandoontheweb]

So, did anyone watched the new toh episode episode?
It's not available in my country but from the look of it, we learn more about belos and caleb, hunter has a mental breakdown and some more LGBT pandering because dana & co stopped giving a shit.
EDIT: Okay so I watched it. Pretty good overall, very fast-paced. I honestly believe the show benefited from being cancelled since they don't have time to focus on bullshit like luz's coming out party. The lgbt pandering is mostly background elements that social media blew way too out of proportion so nothing out of the unusual here.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Imagine willingly paying $2K to have an interview with Butch Hartman only for your almost 30 year old girlfriend to tell your hero that you both made your relationship official when you went to go see a Fairly Odd Parents musical and have her talk for a large chunk of said interview?

Hey now don't be too hard on mark. He's prone to doing a stupid things here and there but he's still a good kid (I'm assuming he is one in relative to our ages terms, and based on how young he sounds)

He did marathon the entirety of the Simpsons, family guy and spongebob after all just to do retrospectives on each. If he does start to act farms worthy I'd be for putting him in the internet famous board before giving him a full thread.

 

[God of Nothing]

He did marathon the entirety of the Simpsons

I quit three seasons in. Too boring.

 

[Becky McDonald]

Hey now don't be too hard on mark. He's prone to doing a stupid things here and there but he's still a good kid (I'm assuming he is one in relative to our ages terms, and based on how young he sounds)

He did marathon the entirety of the Simpsons, family guy and spongebob after all just to do retrospectives on each. If he does start to act farms worthy I'd be for putting him in the internet famous board before giving him a full thread.

The guy's fucking unhinged for doing that.
You have to realise he WILLINGLY put himself through the very worst of Simpsons' post-00s rot. Hundreds of hours' worth. I wouldn't wish that torture on my worst enemy.

 

[starborn427614]

So, did anyone watched the new toh episode episode?
It's not available in my country but from the look of it, we learn more about belos and caleb, hunter has a mental breakdown and some more LGBT pandering because dana & co stopped giving a shit.
EDIT: Okay so I watched it. Pretty good overall, very fast-paced. I honestly believe the show benefited from being cancelled since they don't have time to focus on bullshit like luz's coming out party. The lgbt pandering is mostly background elements that social media blew way too out of proportion so nothing out of the unusual here.
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Not really into the show, but I saw a clip of the fight scene and I was impressed at the fluidity of the animation.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Not really into the show, but I saw a clip of the fight scene and I was impressed at the fluidity of the animation.

They took what they learned animating that kiss and transferred it into what people normally come to a show for, too little too late.

Really all this LGBT pandering right on down to having a character use it as a nail polish color? It feels less like Dana and Co stopped caring and more like they have this delusional belief the twitter mobs will protest and demand Disney save their show if they beg hard enough.

 

[Grumpy Pickle Rick]

Slade is the best type of villain: the kind that would be dangerous even if he lacked his powers or skills. He is perfectly willing to let go of his new fire demon phantom shit in favor of being alive and normal again. The man understands true power is the power to let power go. And, in the end, he's the one who fucks up Trigon enough for the Titans to finish him off.

Exactly.

Slade’s smart, patient and cunning. He learns from his past failures and mistakes. He also knows that some things( like the powers he got from Trigon) isn’t worth the risk.

It amazes me that there is so little of his type. Then again, that requires a level of writing beyond most people. Weird how the first immediate character that comes to mind like him to me is from fanfic, but that's just how rare they are. We'll likely never see any villain quite like him for some time, and that is fucking depressing.

Agreed, it is sad. But like you said.

To write a complex villain, you have get out your head and look at the world around you. You have to realize that everything isn’t as black & white as people say it is. Get some inspiration from other sources.

Take Mr. Freeze for example, he was a villain but he’s not pure evil. He was a brilliant man who wanted to save his wife and got screwed over by a greedy businessman.

Was he angry and vengeful? Yes.

Were his crimes wrong? Unfortunately, yes.

But he’s not evil.

 

[Prophetic Spirit]

To write a complex villain, you have get out your head and look at the world around you. You have to realize that everything isn’t as black & white as people say it is. Get some inspiration from other sources.

Exactly.
I went to a idea about how the antagonist (best way to describe a "gray villain", if you ask) of my novel is simply the protagonist but completely different in his actions and more extreme in how his ideas can change the world.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

This was on YouTube since 2008.

 

[Trilby]

This was on YouTube since 2008.

Nice! I suppose misspelling the title helped.