Virtpeds - "Virtuous" Pedophiles and the Pedophile Internet Defense Force

Impotent sperging on social media is only worthwhile as comedy value, no point in getting outraged. If we can actively do something to help put a pedophile behind bars or prevent exploitation of children I'm not such an edgelord that I think we shouldn't get involved but I don't see a reason to get worked up about stupid people with bad opinions sperging out. I mean I'm glad Allison Rapp got called out but I'm not sure what youre trying to accomplish with this thread.
Kiwi Farms itself got singled out as the root of all evil by multiple key figures in this conflict. If some curious reader decides to look us up, they'll find an exposé on the pedophile apologia of the opposition right on the front page.

I think it's a good move.
 
Never forget that it was the LGBT community who exiled NAMBLA for its shit.

It's worth noting we have other examples amongst the same circles as well. We had Valis77, who was Feminist Frequency's Twitch stream mod, despite being a convicted sex offender. We have several friends of Izzy Galvez's who are virped.org members, which, as one of our Kiwi Operatives exposed, isn't anywhere near as virtuous as it likes to claim.

The curious part is that whilst many of us have had a tendency to conflate the two with Social Justice by default, analysis has yielded that the likes of Nyberg and Rapp leave a lot of these people in a precarious position; pedophiles in general are not well-liked by... Well, anybody, and that includes Social Justice and Gamergate Opposition. When Valis77 was exposed, for example, he was excommunicated overnight.

I didn't quite get why this was until @yawning sneasel forced me into some serious analytical work and made me realize why this was.

So the question is: How does someone like Nyberg or Rapp get defended whilst someone like Valis doesn't? The answer, it turns out, is fairly straightforward: They make themselves into a sort of useful component of "the movement."

Nyberg's ongoing strategic autism against anything remotely related to Gamergate is a great example (even if you only tangentially follow Gamergate, Nyberg shitposts so often and with such prevalence that you will run into her shit at some point either on YouTube or Twitter). She has blamed Gamergate for everything from white nationalism to headlice.

Rapp is little different - she's a vocal Gamergate opponent in a high-profile position with a major game developer and who is in a position with the like-minded. Along with her fellows in NOA, they've not only changed several games to a ludicrous degree, but essentially killed certain titles stateside, as they did with Fatal Frame 5.

In fact, of the various Pedos that we've covered that have been defended by the main line, it's always been someone who has some kind of pull, influence, notoriety, or value. The Nybergs and Rapps of the world hold these beliefs, but they never mention these directly if possible, since that would give the game away. Instead, they code their shit and keep it on the down-low, hoping that nobody really notices. Then, when people digging through their backlog come across it, as Internet Detectives are want to do then come across Nyberg perving out over her cousin or Rapp arguing that Child Porn ownership should be legal, the Antis are then caught in this bizarre position... And then, things get surreal.

The true believers backing these people don't care the evidence - you could have a video of Nyberg re-enacting the BABY FUCK sequence from Mai-Chan's Wonderful Life and a criminal conviction based on it and these people would still be calling it a Gamergate conspiracy. All that matters to them is that you're attacking a "movement" member who has inherent value, and as such, it's an ideological attack since, in these people's eyes, the personal is always political inherently.

But that doesn't mean it's hopeless, either.

Every time something like this pops up, a few people in "the movement" have the scales fall away from their eyes. They realize that they're waist-deep in crazy and start to make themselves scarce. You don't hear from these people because they know they'll be targets if they speak up. But the decrease in followers that these individuals have says it all.

You know, I'm beginning to think nothing short of somebody with even more influence and pull than these goons speaking up on this will do anything, and that person would have to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal. While the core of the cult would still cry conspiracy, the added scrutiny of thousands of more eyeballs would result in a lot of rats fleeing that sinking ship, including many of the opportunists defending Nyberg out of convenience. Only really having sites like Brietbart.com commenting on all of this drives away a lot of people because it's Brietbart; of course they're invested in calling out bullshit coming from liberals. When major liberal news sites are either defending this garbage or just ignoring it, it reflects poorly on not just them, but everybody who has the nerve to speak up about this shit, since they're painted with the Breitbart bias brush.

Remember when the Bill Cosby rape accusations really blew up in the media, that there was a viral clip of Hannibal Buress talking about how these accusations were not just a thing, but had been a thing for years?


We need a Hannibal Buress.
 
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As much as I hate to admit it I think at least part of this sprung from something I strongly support. (The LGBT movement) Tolerance above common sense and common decency was a terrible fucking idea and now society is reaping what it sowed. Man we're in a scary place when the Fox News and /pol/ guys whining about a slippery slope were correct.
LGBT movement lost its way when they started adding letters to the acronym for whatever special stuff Tumblr made up.
 
As a minor but worrying note, it's spreading beyond the internet. Behold: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-doesn-t-deserve-prison-Twitter-lynching.html

Katie Hopkins is a notorious gobshite, though -- being "controversial" is basically her entire persona (because she can't do anything else), and the bulk of her Wikipedia page is about the fallout from remarks she's made. She'll say anything for attention and, more importantly, money. Taking sides against a teenage girl doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

Also, seeing as this thread is already bereft of comedy beyond saving so sod it: if anyone seriously thinks more and more people are going to view child exploitation as acceptable because of the dang dirty SJWs, you need to get off the Farms and take a walk. Can't speak for anywhere else, but things like Operation Yewtree in the UK and all the stuff that came spilling out after Jimmy Savile's death only prove, if anything, that society is less decadent and tolerant than it used to be. If you think 2016 is a bad year to be a kid, take a look at how fuckin' insane the '70s could be.
 
The paedophile acceptance movement has clung to other movements before, like LGBT rights some decades ago, but they weren't given the light of day back then. Only now are people starting to defend this shit in public in the name of "tolerance" and "acceptance" and it breaks my heart.

The most common argument I hear is that they can't help their attraction to children so we should tolerate it. Granted it probably wasn't their choice to become a pedophile, but does that matter if they hurt children?

Some serial killers are motivated by lust. Murder is the only way they can achieve orgasm. Should we feel sorry for them? Should we tolerate their sexuality? You have to draw the line where other people become victims. Pedophiles should be ashamed because their "sexuality" is detrimental to society.
 
Alright, @Null , besides your panic mongering, recycling of Christian Fundamentalist rhetoric, some obscure site and your attempts to raise an personal army, where are the lolcows??.
Before we devolve into the Rapp thread song and dance again :
Yes, this thread is a break from regular lolcow programming, but no one is obligated to read it or post in it.

As far as the Virtped community goes, there was a thread from 2015(highlighted in the thread) in the Community Watch forum presented as Lolcows and very few people objected to it then. Debating the merits of this thread being on a lolcow board is best done in Thread Watch so that the original topic isn't derailed.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/thread-watch.14060/

Having discussions about the merits of the thread in the thread itself is normally okay, but we've just gone through 2 Rapp threads that devolved into people debating whether the subject matter merits the thread or not and shitflinging between those who considered Rapp a Lolcow and those who didn't. Let's not repeat that incident here.
 
Like... What's the correlation besides video games?

There isn't. "GamerGate" is the catchall term for "people who support policies we don't like". It's basically the "religious right" or "Moral Majority" or what have you for this decade, and it will continue to be used until the next group to make into the Boogeyman comes along.
 
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The Farms are about lolcows and there are no lolcows discussed here.
That's assuming you wouldn't get a pedo or a pedo whiteknight going apeshit and posting online their idiotic rhetoric because people aren't tolerating pedophilia.
 
Welp, finally cracked on seeing this thread and registered an account. GG Null.

These sorts of groups were driven underground when the LGBT groups of the 70s/80s finally broke away from their vile tendrils and began to actively work with more refined public relations and getting the moderate majority on side. Indeed, quite a bit of the later 80s was spent denouncing and distancing themselves from such groups instead of fighting the actual issues they were facing. The most notorious I could think of from my own meandering experience was the Pedophile Information Exchange of the 70s which advocated the abolishment of the age of consent in the United Kingdom.

It is very dismaying to see them (or a version thereof) re-emerge now thanks to the wider ranging acceptance of homosexuality and same sex marriage, and doubly so with new and fresh faces. Basically "if they did it, why can't we have the same?" will start to echo over every small, deranged group of ne'er do wells and in places where that acceptance hasn't become more widespread, they will drive those other more legitimate groups and peoples into their own vile darkness.

The only bulwark we have, sitting here towards the fringes of the internet is that they are mercifully on the fringes, albeit public ones.

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I had actually been considering this for a while, and the interesting thing to note is that these people would've, long ago, been the singular fanatic in a local branch of what we now term pressure groups. They were that slightly "unhinged" one that the majority fighting for the cause would've nodded at their batty suggestions before quietly stepping away and ensuring that nothing of the sort would actually go through and for the most part would be harmless.

The internet has allowed groups of the like-minded to collect and gather, and this gives the impression that their numbers can, and could be great enough to lead to decadence and collapse as Null notes.

Instead I offer the counter point to our great and glorious overlord.

It allows us to expose them. It allows us to drag them into the light of the wider world. I've seen what this place can do the moment these people step outside of the tumblr and twitter hug boxes. Imagine what would happen when a mainstream media source hears of these people and their claims? I'm not talking Milo on Briebart but some of the old media, who need something to take back the crown.

And there, fellow kiwis, the chimpouts from these weirdos would be utterly epic.

We just have to be patient, wait for one of their number to become successful in the wider world, or even be stupid enough to try and espouse their ideas on a non-hugboxform and drop the information where needed.
 
Imagine what would happen when a mainstream media source hears of these people and their claims? I'm not talking Milo on Briebart but some of the old media, who need something to take back the crown.

You mean like Jimmy Savile? They had a repeat-offender pedo right in their midst, and they did nothing. Nobody really trusts the MSM for very good reason.
 
You mean like Jimmy Savile? They had a repeat-offender pedo right in their midst, and they did nothing. Nobody really trusts the MSM for very good reason.

While true, look at the scale of the witch-hunting now ongoing as the BBC attempts to atone for the sins of the past, many of the people responsible for the second cover up (namely the Newsnight scandal) are now no longer in post.

The problem with Saville was the scale of his charity work effectively made him bullet-proof. Information could be more easily suppressed during that era because it was held by very few people and it was difficult for people of similar experience to seek each other out discreetly, this was only aided by the internet and other media outlets upon his death when the 'rumours' resurfaced and were more properly investigated.

Had Saville attempted the same today, he'd probably have his own thread on these very forums.
 
The paedophile acceptance movement has clung to other movements before, like LGBT rights some decades ago, but they weren't given the light of day back then. Only now are people starting to defend this shit in public in the name of "tolerance" and "acceptance" and it breaks my heart.

Because this time they've gone "Look, we hate these guys too!"
 
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