I am not pro Russia I am not pro Ukraine I am pro stopping this bullshit because the only people benefiting are the oligarchs and elites while everyone else suffers.
Sorry, to some here that makes you a Putin cock gobbler, or to someone like
@AgendaPoster , a tankie.
Wish the chicken hawks would be the first into the trenches tbh.
You both should be antiwar in Moscow. This is where the dudes that ordered the military buildup at Ukraine's borders and then the invasion live. This is where your efforts for peace should be focused, put your tents in front of the Kremlin, and demand Putin protect precious Russian lives&blood, and return the mobiks to their families, stop the invasion.
After that we can talk about minority rights in Crimea and Donbas and have negotiations that would ask Ukraine to (under supervision) guarantee a certain level of self-governance and safety.
Are you having better proposals for the bloodshed to stop?
Great! Let's see them!
The one thing I despise is the
culture of critique of people here - many of you guys moan and moan about things you hate and dislike.
Yet you NEVER have solutions or political convictions. That makes you a deconstructionist, a garden variety of leftoid that only seethes and has no actual political opinions.
So let's see your own proposals.
unfortunately no sides were really interested in stopping a war, not NATO not Ukraine and not Putin. They all think they can win from this shitshow so a shitshow we will have.
What's to win for Ukraine if it keeps its territory?
Lost thousands of people, most young men, and have half the cities leveled to dust.
Ukraine fights for national survival, not to win something in addition vs what it had (which is not much).