Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[Hazel Motes]

Question: Is there any specific reason why Mike picked Enoch as his last name? Usually these larping names have reasons behind them.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

Question: Is there any specific reason why Mike picked Enoch as his last name? Usually these larping names have reasons behind them.

it's his middle name, nothing to surprising

 

[Muad'Dick]

Not an all together unpersuasive argument, I have little faith in local organizing to be honest (I admittedly have not been vetted to join my states NJP club despite paying for a TRS subscription), maybe you have had success in your area. Mike agrees with you that any successful movement has to be a mass movement, with him getting a lot of shit and many demanding he give the reigns to Warren after criticizing Dr. Pierce for engaging in Vanguardism "It means you have no faith that the average person will take in your message" and perhaps Mike has not been living up to this message, he save Nick Fuentes has the largest movement in white nationalism (I am more of a Ryan Faulk guy myself to be honest), and I think these protest have been ingratiating them to the locals where they protest. Although it has been slow NJP has done more than I expected it would. Where do you stand on the protest, at the very least it is better than Rockwell acting like a clown.

I've never gone along with the idea of abandoning the normie, or even seeing yourself as being above them. Thats abhorrent, and if thats your line of thinking then you should take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself why you're involved in the first place. If you're just here to say nigger or because this is the last group of social pariahs that will tolerate you; then just do everyone a favour and neck yourself. Thats not contradictory with wanting a mass movement, but you're a fool if you think that WN isn't full of deadwood that can only function online.

Local organisation doesn't begin or end with a pool party or even a group of like-minded friends. People need to start making themselves pillars of the community, or at the very least functioning members of society. I started at church on my own. You might laugh, but its a great place for networking and a good cross-section of people in your area. Start volunteering for those charity drives and odd-jobs that need doing. Start getting to know the people who live around you. "Community" is a word that is thrown around a lot in these circles, but online communities are ephemeral and highly unlikely to have one another's back should things get spicy. People need to get out into the real world, rein in their power level and learn how to interact with people in real life. Its honestly that simple. Someone said something on another post that really resonated with me, "right wing online ghettos". I don't care what side of the aisle they're on politically, because thats a perfect summation of what is going on now.

The Waukesha and Jupiter Paulsen protests were great work, but like I said, there needs to be more people there. How many times have you driven past a couple of dozen people with placards out at the side of the road, and by the time you reached your destination you couldn't even remember what they were protesting about? If the NJP are going to continue doing this kind of thing they need triple figures. They're not going to get covered in national news or maybe even state news, but if you get enough people it will really resonate with the locals (the fact that the protesters aren't from the local area won't even matter at that point). So long as they conduct themselves in the same fashion as they did at previous protests then it can only do good.

Say what you like about Rockwell, it was a different time, but he used to speak to packed houses on university campuses. Considering he didn't have the benefit of social media you can bet he had more reach then any niche internet celebrity now.

 

[Neo-Holstien]

I've never gone along with the idea of abandoning the normie, or even seeing yourself as being above them. Thats abhorrent, and if thats your line of thinking then you should take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself why you're involved in the first place. If you're just here to say nigger or because this is the last group of social pariahs that will tolerate you; then just do everyone a favour and neck yourself. Thats not contradictory with wanting a mass movement, but you're a fool if you think that WN isn't full of deadwood that can only function online.

Local organisation doesn't begin or end with a pool party or even a group of like-minded friends. People need to start making themselves pillars of the community, or at the very least functioning members of society. I started at church on my own. You might laugh, but its a great place for networking and a good cross-section of people in your area. Start volunteering for those charity drives and odd-jobs that need doing. Start getting to know the people who live around you. "Community" is a word that is thrown around a lot in these circles, but online communities are ephemeral and highly unlikely to have one another's back should things get spicy. People need to get out into the real world, rein in their power level and learn how to interact with people in real life. Its honestly that simple. Someone said something on another post that really resonated with me, "right wing online ghettos". I don't care what side of the aisle they're on politically, because thats a perfect summation of what is going on now.

The Waukesha and Jupiter Paulsen protests were great work, but like I said, there needs to be more people there. How many times have you driven past a couple of dozen people with placards out at the side of the road, and by the time you reached your destination you couldn't even remember what they were protesting about? If the NJP are going to continue doing this kind of thing they need triple figures. They're not going to get covered in national news or maybe even state news, but if you get enough people it will really resonate with the locals (the fact that the protesters aren't from the local area won't even matter at that point). So long as they conduct themselves in the same fashion as they did at previous protests then it can only do good.

Say what you like about Rockwell, it was a different time, but he used to speak to packed houses on university campuses. Considering he didn't have the benefit of social media you can bet he had more reach then any niche internet celebrity now.

Abandoning the normie is surrendering the fight, but even when I get people to admit that I have point about the reality of this situation they always just say "it's not worth the risk" or "what's the point, we can't do anything about it". I can't seem to get anybody to care enough to endure the risk of danger, as I said before maybe people in your area are made of sterner stuff.

Getting 100+ people at a protest is probably something they want to do, but they can't manage to pay a staff of full time activist, much to their detriment, I am under the interpretation that they started NJP because no other movement was going anywhere and that Mike would have preferred to have someone else do the political activism, so I am admittedly more forgiving of their missteps.

When it comes to Pierce and Rockwell I am frustrated with them rather than angry, they had squandered a much better hand by preferring compound parties rather than mass movements.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

I honestly wouldn't care if he was living out of his car. He's just a fragile little cunt. His dox was out for months before this. I don't see him getting black bagged or having his bank accounts frozen.

The world doesn't need any more histrionic podcaster nerds. These same e-celebs that you look up to that are going to break the white race free from the yoke of the jew are the same people that can't take the bants online without having some sort of breakdown and throwing their toys out of the pram. The same people that have been calling out KF on Poast and labelling everyone as a "dramafag" are the same people that tune into PPP and Jim. They're full of shit. Disingenuous ideological carpet baggers.

Oh, and lets not forget that DSP pulls in better numbers than The People's Square. You'd think that white hot takes like "everyone on KF is antifa" would be bringing in bank, but evidently not.

Darkseid Phil
One against the trolls
Graduated top of his class his school
Beat Bankruptcy Court
Somehow never gets kicked off anything
Masturbated on camera
Still has an audience
Darkseid Phil true hyperborean

 

[Muad'Dick]

Darkseid Phil
One against the trolls
Graduated top of his class his school
Beat Bankruptcy Court
Somehow never gets kicked off anything
Masturbated on camera
Still has an audience
Darkseid Phil true hyperborean

Untouchable.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Abandoning the normie is surrendering the fight, but even when I get people to admit that I have point about the reality of this situation they always just say "it's not worth the risk" or "what's the point, we can't do anything about it". I can't seem to get anybody to care enough to endure the risk of danger, as I said before maybe people in your area are made of sterner stuff.

Getting 100+ people at a protest is probably something they want to do, but they can't manage to pay a staff of full time activist, much to their detriment, I am under the interpretation that they started NJP because no other movement was going anywhere and that Mike would have preferred to have someone else do the political activism, so I am admittedly more forgiving of their missteps.

When it comes to Pierce and Rockwell I am frustrated with them rather than angry, they had squandered a much better hand by preferring compound parties rather than mass movements.

Abandoning the normie is also different from Borzoi's analogy of Used CarSalesman White Nationalism. Where one specifically cucks out and does whatever there is to get Butts in seats, which doesn't turn out well once the buyer realizes they were swindled.

 

[NSJAP]

 

[AgendaPoster]

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This Striker?
What he wants will likely not happen. Mike can put his face out because he already lost everything in mainstream society. Most normal people leaning right are still having a tremendous amount to lose, and none of them have podcasts and paypiggies to survive off.
Idealism is good, but the NJP/TRS ideals are autistic and lack nuance. When you reduce everything to Jews bad, most normal people will reject that message. To make it worse, NJP has willingly chosen to ditch a positive message "whites should have same rights to organize and assemble around their identity without being demonized" for a negative message "Jews are evil and must be dealt with".
People's brains function with nuance, they see middle class Jews, some liberal, some traditionalist, they see lower class Jews without any power or influence, they see black athletes, they see black politicians, and black gangsters and mobs.
It's all on a bell curve. There is indeed a center that generates racial and ethnic stereotypes, that is true. But there are also the extremities of the curve with large numbers of individuals that are not "conforming" to the stereotype.
Even if the protests like those around the Waukesha incident look somewhat normal, if somebody gets interested and wants to know more, they'll land in TRS, and what will they hear?
- Jews, Jews, Jews
- Russia good, Jookraine bad
- niggers
There won't be discussions about policies, or plans to implement a political agenda. Zero of that. Just endless snickering about Jewish shenanigans.
Nearly impossible to convince anyone sane that this is worth being idealistic for.
It was one thing to be idealistic for a European homeland, or for a society with as little fags and trannies, with healthy, strong men (like Patriot Front tends to do). And another to be idealistic about hunting down Jews and deporting them or w/e, as that's the only logical conclusion of listening to TRS and FTN episodes.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

People's brains function with nuance, they see middle class Jews, some liberal, some traditionalist, they see lower class Jews without any power or influence, they see black athletes, they see black politicians, and black gangsters and mobs.

There are few if any lower class Jews. I think you are referring to the Ultra Orthodox in places like NYC. Those jews aren't poor they are just cheapstakes who are slumlord owners of old apartment blocks renting to spics and niggers while also collecting welfare cheques.

This really pisses off the niggers when they see there landlords in front of them in line at the Welfare offices early in the morning.

 

[RichardMongler]

Lets take a gamble and assume this is in good faith...

Start with your local community. Galvanize them for whats coming. Make your message and what you stand for attractive. Your local church, PTA groups, local charities etc are fertile grounds for this kind of thing. People are more receptive than you might think. Especially white families. Naturally socially cohesive groups are reactive and they're not blind to what is going on, they just need to be coaxed into doing something about it without being afraid of the stigma attached to it, and theres safety in numbers.

Confession time; I was a paypig for TRS for a couple of years. Now I rarely listen to anything outside of stuff that someone has already clipped. I saw what happened on the 504um. I saw how it took a massive outcry for them to even address what went on with Ghoul. I saw what they did to Musonius.

Degeneracy and shitshows aside, if TRS want to achieve anything they need to stop being so insular. "We only want quality people" is a fucking cope. This is politics. Its a pure numbers game, whether you're going to tackle things head-on or via a more subversive route. The IRL activism they have done so far has been great, but by now they should be able to bring in way more numbers to these things. The excuse of vetting etc is just that, an excuse. If you're even adjacent to the "far right" assume you're infiltrated, because you probably are, whether its the feds or the likes of antifa. It doesn't matter how many measures you put in place, you're dealing with dedicated people who are either paid to do it or passionate enough about it to get the job done.

The optics problem with TRS has nothing to do with a guy wearing a poorly fitting stahlhelm, its more to do with the fact that the front men just aren't likeable people. I've always had a soft spot for Mike, hes a good orator (and he has all his shoes and glasses), but even he can come across as a belligerent sperg at times. They need 2-3 people that they can put in front of a national TV news crew and not be afraid that they'll come across like the r/antiwork guy. Even if they're stooges that are fed lines for the camera, it would be better than whats on offer currently. Also, either abandon social media entirely or learn how to not be a massive sociopath while you're on there. Patrick Bateman is a great meme, but not a great advert for an organisation that is trying to build a community.

Thats a couple of suggestions based on them being serious and not just Sven's effects pedal fund.

Both you and @AgendaPoster are on the right track, but I'm going to channel @Terrorist here and give my .02.

Historically, taking over mainstream political institutions was among the last steps of successful Nationalist movements. It took continuous hard work building up real life power and parallel institutions that filled voids left by the failures of both liberalism and conservatism. Manpower, land, capital, expertise, even foreign backing and lines of credit, et cetera. It's this lack of professionalism and lack of the necessary elements that may be the National Justice Party's downfall.

As it stands, TRS can be very effective internet propagandists, but propaganda remains the easiest parts of building a movement, and movements can neither be led by propagandists nor exclusively populated by them. Even they are seeing the futility in "redpilling the normie" because people go with the strong horse, and from where anyone is standing, TRS/NJP are weak links. They only started caring when they accrued a following willing to afford them a lifestyle which convinced them of their own value as activists.

Propaganda of the word gets its power from propaganda of the deed. TRS could do a lot of things to help downtrodden Whites where the system hasn't to gain a real life base like the Church of Scientology and the Nation of Islam did, but that's much harder work than figuring out the one neat trick. Of course, even they are recognizing the limits of online activism and are supposedly trying to build up a real life base, but it still remains to be seen how that will take shape and the fruits of such labor. I'm open to seeing the NJP surprise me. Maybe one day, we'll see opioid rehab clinics, vocational schools, food banks, disaster relief for areas blighted by hurricanes or any such charity sponsored and run by the NJP.

Mike seems to be the most levelheaded and consistent of them all. Everyone else I could take or leave on a given day.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

This Striker?
What he wants will likely not happen. Mike can put his face out because he already lost everything in mainstream society. Most normal people leaning right are still having a tremendous amount to lose, and none of them have podcasts and paypiggies to survive off.
Idealism is good, but the NJP/TRS ideals are autistic and lack nuance. When you reduce everything to Jews bad, most normal people will reject that message. To make it worse, NJP has willingly chosen to ditch a positive message "whites should have same rights to organize and assemble around their identity without being demonized" for a negative message "Jews are evil and must be dealt with".
People's brains function with nuance, they see middle class Jews, some liberal, some traditionalist, they see lower class Jews without any power or influence, they see black athletes, they see black politicians, and black gangsters and mobs.
It's all on a bell curve. There is indeed a center that generates racial and ethnic stereotypes, that is true. But there are also the extremities of the curve with large numbers of individuals that are not "conforming" to the stereotype.
Even if the protests like those around the Waukesha incident look somewhat normal, if somebody gets interested and wants to know more, they'll land in TRS, and what will they hear?
- Jews, Jews, Jews
- Russia good, Jookraine bad
- niggers
There won't be discussions about policies, or plans to implement a political agenda. Zero of that. Just endless snickering about Jewish shenanigans.
Nearly impossible to convince anyone sane that this is worth being idealistic for.
It was one thing to be idealistic for a European homeland, or for a society with as little fags and trannies, with healthy, strong men (like Patriot Front tends to do). And another to be idealistic about hunting down Jews and deporting them or w/e, as that's the only logical conclusion of listening to TRS and FTN episodes.

The difference between these people and people like George Lincoln Rockwell
and Corneliu Zelea Codreanu
Never asked for a single donation that wasn't freely given
Both men in the manifestos for my legionnaires and white power simply point out that Jews have an outsize role in pushing communism
In for my legionnaires only says that Jews violate the basic laws of nation
And that's why they act in such a fashion and that they have no right to claim other people's land that they built with blood
Both men also were perfectly normal human beings who acted in a fashion that wasn't off-putting to the vast majority of the populace
If you look at when Rockwell spoke in public you really can't find any flaws in anything he says or does these people look like what a leftist thinks a far-right political party looks like

These peoples foreign policy however is complete s*** give Iran and Russia and China whatever they want
These people do realize that America needs access to Rare Earth minerals uranium and trading partners for its exports
And these people do realize that the modern Prosperity that Americans enjoy is due to the fact that we keep the ceiling safe

These people need to understand basic economics is well giving white people Gibbs like black people isn't going to fix the problem what you need to do is create productive members of society not more welfare leeches

I'm sorry people aren't interested in let's all be welfare n***** except for white people white people don't want to be welfare niggars

People want jobs that give them meaning that they view as valuable to society not that it meaningless corporate nonsense but these people don't get that cuz most of these people have never done an honest day's labor in their lives or interact with normal people on a daily basis

Just like the America First creeps these people are bunch of upper-middle-class douchebags and trailer trash
The original members of the National Socialist Workers Party we're all Working Class People including Adolf Hitler
I wonder why they gain power and these guys are not going to

 

[Muad'Dick]

The online right is circling the drain at this point, and its not because they're a digital diaspora, moving from one ever decreasing platform to the next. The only people hanging on to it's rotting corpse are ones that just want to be an edgy boy online.

"But they're building a community!" No, they're really not. How many times have you seen people, even fairly well known ones, get into some kind of trouble IRL and then be completely ignored or even shunned? How are these people going to save the white race when they can't even look after their own people? Hell, they only engage with their "community" when money is involved. That alone speaks volumes.

I was naïve enough once to think that podcast race wasn't just a grift, but it really is. It wouldn't be so bad if they were actually offering something in return. I could forgive someone being bankrolled by their followers into the role of a "full-time activist" if they actually did something, but what do we get? Fart huffing and talking points that are now nearing a hundred years old. Relying on these people for actual change is like walking into the hospital with a stab wound, only for the doctor to give you a lecture on the history of knives and showing you pie charts of knife crime while you bleed out. There is a laundry list of things they could be doing that would help white people in a tangible way and endear themselves to the greater public, but why do that when you can piss away a couple of hours talking about an obscure NSDAP member that nobody outside of the most autistic larper has heard of.

Demagogues are great for whipping a crowd into a frenzy and creating a call to action. The problem is there isn't a crowd, and on the current trajectory we're on there'll probably never be one.

 

[A-A-AAsssston!]

People's brains function with nuance, they see middle class Jews, some liberal, some traditionalist, they see lower class Jews without any power or influence, they see black athletes, they see black politicians, and black gangsters and mobs.

Blaming everything on the jews is absurd. It requires that all goys have no ambitions or ideas of their own other than to be a well-paid jewish puppet (outside of TRS of course).

A lot of powerful white goys are deranged. The "you will own nothing and you will be happy" lady Ida Auken isn't jewish. TRS would have you believe that jews are the only humans capable of influence or political maneuvering. The picture they try to paint of the world just sounds so goofy and retarded.

The online right is circling the drain at this point, and its not because they're a digital diaspora, moving from one ever decreasing platform to the next. The only people hanging on to it's rotting corpse are ones that just want to be an edgy boy online.

The deplatforming definitely doesn't help, but I don't think they would have had that much more success if they were still on Twitter and Youtube because there were always inherent problems in the movement that have already been discussed to death. It would have simply spawned more right-wing grifters and compounded the problems in the movement.

"But they're building a community!" No, they're really not. How many times have you seen people, even fairly well known ones, get into some kind of trouble IRL and then be completely ignored or even shunned? How are these people going to save the white race when they can't even look after their own people? Hell, they only engage with their "community" when money is involved. That alone speaks volumes.

And how often do you see them reaching out to anyone outside their community to try to attract new members? They seem content now to remain in their echo chamber and milk their pay pigs. If things got too heated, I can imagine them closing up shop and disappearing.

I was naïve enough once to think that podcast race wasn't just a grift, but it really is. It wouldn't be so bad if they were actually offering something in return. I could forgive someone being bankrolled by their followers into the role of a "full-time activist" if they actually did something, but what do we get? Fart huffing and talking points that are now nearing a hundred years old. Relying on these people for actual change is like walking into the hospital with a stab wound, only for the doctor to give you a lecture on the history of knives and showing you pie charts of knife crime while you bleed out. There is a laundry list of things they could be doing that would help white people in a tangible way and endear themselves to the greater public, but why do that when you can piss away a couple of hours talking about an obscure NSDAP member that nobody outside of the most autistic larper has heard of.

I think it's not just the leadership that's the problem but also the audience itself. Podcasts inherently attract a low-quality, lazy, terminally online audience. Who else has time to listen to hours of podcasts? I know the cope is that they are all listening to TRS while at work, but how many jobs allow you to be so isolated and detached that you can listen to Mike and Sven shout "nigger" into the microphone without it affecting work?

Years ago Mike tried to organize his fans to tank a Yelp review and was unsuccessful because his audience did nothing. It was something so easy to do, but Mike has a lazy audience and can never take any form of action, online or offline. You see attempts on the forum to organize activism and it's always shouted down by other members. I know tanking a Yelp review is slactivism at its finest, but there's no evidence that their audience has been able to organize and do anything.

NJP on Poa.st are an insular group of lolicon-obsessed dorks who badly need to touch grass. They're always inventing conspiracy theories about how "Kiwiniggers" are going to the media with their doxes or working together with Antifa to take down Graf.

They want to drive off anyone who enters their echo chamber. Since they are so censored and deplatformed, wouldn't they want to use any opportunity to earn new converts? Instead, they seem to only want to have a place to hang out with other racists, political movement be damned. It's bizarre, almost as if they have a pathological desire not to grow in an attempt to preserve the culture of their in-group.

TRS are e-celebs with a stable of paypigs. Paypigs are by their nature deranged because they voluntarily give money to online strangers so they can participate in a racist online friend simulator with Mike et al. If there will ever be a successful movement that shares their politics, it will never emerge from their fanbase and will have to come from elsewhere.

I can't imagine that Mike and Sven don't already know all of this. That's probably another reason why their political movement comes across as so insincere.

 

[NSJAP]

 

[AgendaPoster]

Hell, they only engage with their "community" when money is involved. That alone speaks volumes.

TRS are e-celebs with a stable of paypigs. Paypigs are by their nature deranged because they voluntarily give money to online strangers so they can participate in a racist online friend simulator with Mike et al. If there will ever be a successful movement that shares their politics, it will never emerge from their fanbase and will have to come from elsewhere.
I can't imagine that Mike and Sven don't already know all of this. That's probably another reason why their political movement comes across as so insincere.

A few things.
It's incredibly suspicious that everyone in TRS (minus McNabb, maybe?) has locked their Telegram channels completely - even the reactions. Even associated "acts" like Keith Woods and Joel have obvious difficulties dealing with how audiences reacted to their more controversial takes when they had chats or negative reactions up, like poop or w/e, and tried to justify closing it down for all sorts of reason, but probably the most obvious reason is that they hate and despise their audience and want to not have much to do with it, other than issue dictates from above. Joel has chat where Striker is a mod I believe, and Striker is incredibly fragile and everything but full agreement is a ban.
Powerful ideas survive attacks and the test of time and are dangerous. Regardless if we like it or not, national socialism, liberalism, communism, anarchism etc. have found ways to metamorphosize and evolve, ensuring their survival over decades. These are not fragile concepts that can be easily dismantled - the security of a tribe, the power of a worker collective and numbers, the power of elites, the need to periodically challenge hierarchies, many deeply unjust, like monarchies and nobility.
Yet the NJP ideas are apparently so damn fragile that they can only survive in complete isolation and within a circlejerk of acolytes that agree on nearly everything.
As usual, I extend an invitation to Striker and the team, come speak here. You want recruits. Let's see if your ideas survive scrutiny. Let's see your policy positions, you want to rule the biggest empire in the history of humankind, armed with nukes and F35s. Ok. Let's put it al down, and go through what NJP would do, step by step, and see if it can be done and how.
Show your intellectual strength, Moike. KiwiFarms audience leans heavily right, with exceptions, so you should have a fertile ground. You'll face questions from others in the right.
We'll have a mod banning impolite chimpouts, so people can actually talk like the humans that they claim to be.
Stop being so fragile - show us that you have the strength necessary to rule.

 

[George Floyd Sneed]

I've wanted to write an effortpost about Jazzhands and Balogh's misinformed and historically illiterate takes on the Iron Guard and fascist Romania in FTN 515: All Hail the Iron Guard, but the site went down and my enthusiasm went away.

FTN’s deep dives have been universally shit since ethnarch left. I though ethnarch was an autiste-level sperg but everything he did was well researched. Since he left, all they do now is look up “name + Jew” on Google and call it a day. Eastern European history is a lot more complex than American history so when they try to view it in that lens, they will fuck it up every time.

 

[Rekkington]

That Keffals fiasco is the best thing to happen to this thread, now the NJP shills have largely fucked off and people are making solid points again.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

FTN’s deep dives have been universally shit since ethnarch left. I though ethnarch was an autiste-level sperg but everything he did was well researched. Since he left, all they do now is look up “name + Jew” on Google and call it a day. Eastern European history is a lot more complex than American history so when they try to view it in that lens, they will fuck it up every time.

Prussian Socialism has better deep dives. Not to mention the Great Men of Our History podcast that is over on Amerikaner.org

 

[AgendaPoster]

FTN’s deep dives have been universally shit since ethnarch left. I though ethnarch was an autiste-level sperg but everything he did was well researched. Since he left, all they do now is look up “name + Jew” on Google and call it a day. Eastern European history is a lot more complex than American history so when they try to view it in that lens, they will fuck it up every time.

That Keffals fiasco is the best thing to happen to this thread, now the NJP shills have largely fucked off and people are making solid points again.

Since you guys revived this I'm just gonna use the opportunity to dismantle another FTN narrative, specifically that NJP is pro-Russia because Russia is almost explicitly fighting against world Jewry is and is anti-Semitic. As proof for such a major claim, they cite Jews fleeing Russia.
That's another lie by omission. The actual truth is that Jews (but other minorities too) are fleeing BOTH countries, to escape war and potential mobilization. For example, Hungarians, Poles and Romanians have largely ejected themselves from Ukraine, and Russia has seen various ethnic conflicts due to mobilization and significant losses in their eastern parts.
As for Jews, we all know that their allegiance is towards their own ethnic group first, especially when it comes to states like Russia and Ukraine which kinda pogromed their asses numerous times, although I am sure you will find Jewish mercenaries and voluntary fighters on each side.
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