Brianna Wu / John Flynt - DEAGLE NATION STILL LIVES

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He has the gall to think he's better than Moot in any way, and makes the excuse that it's Moot's white privilege that got him his job, and not his role in the creation of one of the most influential websites ever.

It's actually even more retarded than that - John literally thinks that m00t is directly criminally culpable for EVERYTHING that 4chan has gotten in trouble for in the past but has gotten off scot-free because he's a DAMN WHITE CIS MALE TECHBRO.
 
It's actually even more retarded than that - John literally thinks that m00t is directly criminally culpable for EVERYTHING that 4chan has gotten in trouble for in the past but has gotten off scot-free because he's a DAMN WHITE CIS MALE TECHBRO.

This is a pretty common trait of lolcows butthurt about shit 4chan says about them. "Zyklon Ben" Garrison also has a frenzied hateboner for moot. On a somewhat smaller scale, look at how every lolcow goes apeshit about Null at some point.
 
This is a pretty common trait of lolcows butthurt about shit 4chan says about them. "Zyklon Ben" Garrison also has a frenzied hateboner for moot. On a somewhat smaller scale, look at how every lolcow goes apeshit about Null at some point.

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It's actually even more retarded than that - John literally thinks that m00t is directly criminally culpable for EVERYTHING that 4chan has gotten in trouble for in the past but has gotten off scot-free because he's a DAMN WHITE CIS MALE TECHBRO.
I mean, Moot's a faggot, but come on.
I don't know what I expect from Wu anymore. I really don't.
 
Wu is a pathological liar who gets off on telling lies. That's why they don't make much sense from a practical perspective. Wu is literally addicted to lying.

And now, an entry Socially Unconscious: The Election Eve, with the relevant parts highlighted:

Chapter Three said:
To be honest Lani had no earthly idea if Minuete had anything to do with Professor Brooke’s decision to leave the University, but there had been a number of odd stories in the Beacon lately. Like Professor Lauren’s seeming abduction, where he simply vanished from thin air terrifying his wife and family. The business professor was found four days later, looking like he’d just been released from a prison camp. He claimed he had simply needed a trip out of town, and had gone on a spontaneous vacation for a few days. “That one just didn’t pass the smell test,” thought Lani. And in any case, Minuete researching ways to disable electronics could simply not be a good thing.

Lani had mixed feelings about going after Minuete. On one hand, some of her best investigative reports had come from investigating Minuete, like the time she proved Minuete had a Lektor device and was using it to print fake handicapped parking stickers. And she was certainly riding on a high after stomping on Minuete’s purse in front of the Washington Post staff. “I haven’t heard anything from Minuete since then,” realized Lani with a chill. Minuete would definitely want revenge over that one. The fact that Minuete was off planning revenge gave Lani a cold shudder.

Hence the mixed feelings. Minuete had admitted to Lani personally that she was, in fact, a supervillian seeking world domination just days earlier. Minuete definitely knew how to give as good as she got when it came to getting revenge. And in any situation involving Brea, Allison, and herself, Lani would most definitely be the one that got burnt the most.

Still, neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow. “Sure,” thought Lani “that was the alleged motto of the Postal Service, but it applied to investigative journalism as well.”

Where to start? First Lani tried typing in her web browser “www.paradox90.com.” And this pulled up a dull drab web site that really told Lani nothing. The information and goals were so general the information was useless, like the company’s mission statement, “to invest in and provide research and investment in technologies that will revolutionize tomorrow’s marketplace.”

“Show me a technology firm where that wasn’t their goal,” thought Lani. Then she realized, the website was just window dressing. Minuete was putting up a public front for Paradox 90. Someone might have seen the story and wanted to read about her company. What was going on behind the scenes probably had nothing to do with the part of Paradox 90 that served Minuete’s financial interests.

Lani opened her web browser, and used the alias email address she used when she wanted to be anonymous. The name she used, Hildegard 'Hildy' Johnson, was from the uber-classic 40’s dialogue comedy “His Girl Friday,” a film about a divorced couple with a love-hate relationship. They worked at a fictional paper called The Front Page, in a time where journalism was a much purer form of art.

The 1940 remake had Rosalind Russell playing the character of Hildy, and despite the fact that her co-star was Cary Grant she positively stole every scene. Grant gave a one liner, and she’d top it.

Walter Burns: I still wish you hadn't done that, Hildy.

Hildy Johnson: Done what?

Walter Burns: Divorced me. It makes a man feel he's not wanted.

Hildy Johnson: Oh, now look junior . . . that's what divorces are FOR!

That was who Lani saw herself as, a classic old-school reporter that was both skilled and witty. “Brea doesn’t give me enough credit for being funny,” mused Lani.

“I can be very funny when I want.”

Lani sent the following email to questions@paradox90.com.

From the Office of Regulation Authority,

My name is Hildegard Johnson and as a newly spun of company, rules require my office to physically verify that your office and operations physically exist. This is to aid in preventing fraud and investment companies being set up that are merely on paper. The inspection is quite cursory and should not take up much of your time. The reason I’m asking so informally is that frankly, following the official procedures is a quagmire of lawyers and legal bills, and I always attempt to see if I can visit the company informally first. The goal is the same, getting me on site to verify your office actually exists. If I haven’t received a reply back in 42 hours, I will go ahead and assume you wish to go through the process formally. I appreciate your time.

Sincerely, Hildegard Johnson

Of course there was no Office of Regulation Authority or any such rules, as was blatantly obvious to Lani. Frankly she had been surprised anyone had ever fallen for this trick, but they always did. And according to Lani’s lawyer back at the Beacon it was probably legal, you never knew if the matter ever fell before a judge.

Then Lani spent the next three hours surfing through Lexis-Nexis reading everything she could find on Minuete Kiley. A lot of it was all the articles Minuete had written for the Washington Post. They were absolutely infuriating to read because Minuete was so obviously spinning things for her own thinly veiled agenda. Not much was useful information to be found their, but a Lexis-Nexus search of “EMI+Expert +Leaving” with a date range of within the last two weeks found thirty-one hits, nine of which were stories just like the one at Bishop University, an expert in electro-magnetism up and leaving somewhere, usually a university for an unspecified job on short notice.

After reading that, Lani decided on a separate tactic. Creating a false resume for Hildegard Johnson, pulling wild qualifications out of thin air that made her out to be an expert in Electro-magnetism. She then FedExed this to the Paradox 90 headquarters attached with a note.

Attention Human Resources,

My name is Hildegard Johnson, and I am an expert in semi-conductor devices and advances studying electromagnetic pulses. I am currently looking for employment, and read the story about your company in the Wall Street Journal today. Included is a current copy of my resume. I appreciate your time.

Sincerely, Hildegard Johnson

Lani also posted the resume to all the Internet job sites, including Monster and HotJobs. By that time she glanced at the clock, she realized she had lost all track of time. She had started at nine in the morning and taken a lunch break around three. It was getting close to seven, she needed to get downstairs to the Alyssa Rifte set. Lani wouldn’t formally be on staff until tomorrow, but she figured she had put in a good day on the investigative side, and she could start getting able to know the faces.

As Lani logged off the Lexis-Nexis connection, she saw she had gotten an email. It was a response from someone in Paradox 90 concerning Hildegard Johnson’s desire to informally inspect the office. They had taken the bait. The person that had read the email gave Lani a number to call and set up an appointment. It was after five o’clock, so Lani would have to set up the meeting tomorrow. She put the number in the Palm Pilot and shut down her laptop.

Methinks Wu was secretly admitting to something in this segment....

Not really, but it seems to be implied. If I misinterpreted that, then I am an idiot and shouldn't use the few breaks I have for writing posts on the farms...

I'm at least 90% sure it isn't him. Post style doesn't match up and the Medium writer doesn't confirm who their Patreon account was, meaning it could have been any of the hundreds that filtered out when Wu did something stupid.
 
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Even more damning is that Wu never mentions Natalie anymore. When was the last time she mentioned her by name? Was it actually all the way back to July of last year where "Natalie" wrote the Kickstarter update? Even when she was doing some e-panhandling yesterday, she didn't say anything about paying for an administrator - just vague nonsense about how the money doesn't actually go to her but she didn't name specifics for it.

I have to wonder, would Wu even remember Natalie's name if she didn't watch this thread like a hawk?
 
I have to wonder, would Wu even remember Natalie's name if she didn't watch this thread like a hawk?

What seriously gets me every time is that of all the details John could have chosen to make up, he chose to make Natalie pregnant. Like you have to be a special kind of dumb to do this. Where's the fucking baby, Natalie???
 
What seriously gets me every time is that of all the details John could have chosen to make up, he chose to make Natalie pregnant. Like you have to be a special kind of dumb to do this. Where's the fucking baby, Natalie???

Yeah, it's definitely a by-product of the sheer amount of times she's lied though. Nobody bats 1.000.
 
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And being fucking stupid about it, as usual, calling it tax fraud.

This is not tax fraud. Tax fraud is if no one is paying money on the Patreon input. And Frank was worked too damn long to be taken down by the IRS, so he'd insist on paying the taxes. People in nice professional jobs make sure to pay their taxes.

Someone who was donating could sue for damages, if they claimed that they did so because of Brianna's lies. All that a third-party can do is just point and laugh.
 
And being fucking stupid about it, as usual, calling it tax fraud.

This is not tax fraud. Tax fraud is if no one is paying money on the Patreon input. And Frank was worked too damn long to be taken down by the IRS, so he'd insist on paying the taxes. People in nice professional jobs make sure to pay their taxes.

Someone who was donating could sue for damages, if they claimed that they did so because of Brianna's lies. All that a third-party can do is just point and laugh.

Yeah, that idiot screaming tax fraud is pants on head stupid.

Then again, so is Flynt coming up with a lie this utterly idiotic and full of holes any remotely suspicious person could drive a semi through.
 
Where's the fucking baby, Natalie???

Well... Wu does love Voyager, of all things. And Ensign Wildman was pregnant for, like, a year and half - to the mockery of fans since the writers obviously weren't keeping track. Until they made up some bullshit excuse after the fact about the father being an alien.
 
Yeah, that idiot screaming tax fraud is pants on head stupid.

Yes, the proper term for making up "Natalie" for soliciting money is "wire fraud", and it's a federal felony, punishable by up to 20 years in the pokey.

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.
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Addressing the questions of @Ruin:
  • Using the Internet is "wire". John uses Twitter and Patreon for this.
  • He has received donations from other states and other countries. That makes it federal.
  • John has repeatedly asserted, proactively, that "every single penny" of the Patreon money goes for the very specific purpose of paying someone else to deal with "harassment". It's part of the pitch itself on his Patreon page.
  • It would be quite easy to prove or disprove. He either has records of transferring the entirety of the Patreon income to someone else, or he doesn't. And he either has evidence of such a person doing the "anti-harassment" work or he doesn't.
  • It's not whether it could be proven, it's whether action would be taken to investigate him. If there is no Natalie (or similar person), it's fraud.
 
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Yes, the proper term for making up "Natalie" for soliciting money is "wire fraud", and it's a federal felony.

Whoever, having devised or intending to devise any scheme or artifice to defraud, or for obtaining money or property by means of false or fraudulent pretenses, representations, or promises, transmits or causes to be transmitted by means of wire, radio, or television communication in interstate or foreign commerce, any writings, signs, signals, pictures, or sounds for the purpose of executing such scheme or artifice, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.​

I'm sure @AnOminous can correct me but I think it would be pretty hard to prove these in court.

  • The defendant created or participated in a scheme to defraud another out of money;
  • The defendant did so with intent to defraud;
  • It was reasonably foreseeable that the defendant would use wire communications; and
  • The defendant did in fact use interstate wire communications.
 
Some cow crossover regarding Wu/Flynt's Wikipedia article claiming Flynt has an investigative journalism degree and the Gamergate-obsessing wikispergs who continue to white knight it.

Someone called Runescrape decided to call out two of the many wikispergs that have so far spent over a year of their life obsessing over Gamergate - Mark Bernstein and a GamerGhazi redditor - for being involved with Brianna Wu/Gamergate to the point where they have a Conflict of Interest. If you've seen any of the shitfests revolving around Gamergate on Wikipedia you will know that Mark for sure would have been banned ages ago except that he has a clique of administrators protecting him, notably Rob "Gamaliel" Fernandez who has now been elected to an even higher position of authority on the Wikipedia Arbitration Committee.

Mark responded to the CoI discussion with his usual paranoid hysteria as the rest of the anti-Gamergate spergs rallied around him before Mark decided to erase most of the discussion.

Is it a problem that nobody deigned to ping me about this scurrilous and groundless personal attack? Yep. There is no conflict f interest whatsoever, except with these endless personal attacks orchestrated on Reddit and the chan boards. MarkBernstein (talk) 10:51, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

A few days later, a topic was made on KIA about Mark trying to delete this and not long after Mark's buddy Fernandez decided to implement the 500/30 rule (need an account 30+ days old and with 500+ edits to do anything) on the Brianna Wu article. The article had been under full protection since September after someone tried to add a source proving Flynt is Flynt and another admin, HJ Mitchell, threw a hissy fit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brianna_Wu#500.2F30_restrictions

Some editors questioned why this is necessary and Gamaliel at first says he saw it had a "history of problems" aka people trying to add facts that go against the narrative, and then later says it was because he saw the thread on reddit. One editor - a long-time foe of Fernandez and Bernstein - notes that of the active editors the only one the 500/30 is going to hinder is the one who called out Bernstein.

Just to clarify, I presume that the addition of the 500/30 rule is a preemptive restriction because of the ending of the current protection in three weeks? I ask, because I can't see any significant problems here from people who would not pass that condition, but I might be missing something and, of course, we might not be seeing problems while the article is protected. - Bilby (talk) 22:27, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I examined the history of problems and it's been protected on and off since 2014. I thought it was time to try something new. Gamaliel (talk) 01:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough, although it seems the bigger problem in the last 4 months has been issues between established editors, as the only editors who would fall under the 500/30 conditions weren't really doing anything problematic. I guess we'll revisit this in three months time. - Bilby (talk) 01:37, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I only looked at logged sanctions and the most recent version of the talk page. If there were problems that weren't logged, I didn't take them into account. If there are other problems, we can certainly discuss them here, though AE might be the best place for certain types of issues. Gamaliel (talk) 01:44, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Isn't User:Runescrape the only editor that doesn't meet it? Next to the hatted BLP violation and the related BLPN discussion, he/she was pretty mild. Regardless of whether you are acting on a complaint, did you receive one? Just curious as to what attracted you here if it wasn't correspondence of some fashion. --DHeyward (talk) 02:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I received no complaint. I saw a discussion about this page on Reddit. Gamaliel (talk) 03:57, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Runescrape returned to ask Fernandez about Flynt's claim that he finished his degree in investigative journalism. Mark Bernstein says we have "no reason to doubt it" because Flynt himself said it, and asks "why would anyone want to" refute such a claim.

Gamaliel, while you're here and concerned about the state of the article could you please investigate the claim that "[the subject] later returned to college to finish her degree in investigative journalism", which seems to have no supporting citations? Thanks in advance.--Runescrape (talk) 03:03, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Gamaliel
- do you intend 500/30 to cover just the article proper, or the talk page as well? PeterTheFourth (talk) 03:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

PeterTheFourth
, are you implying that noting unsourced claims is improper in some way? You appear to be responding to me, so I would advise that if you are offended by unsourced material I would advise you either find supporting citations ASAP or remove the potentially fabricated claim.--Runescrape (talk) 03:40, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Any claim is potentially fabricated, This one is derived from a direct quote from the subject. We have no reason to doubt it, and in its nature it's difficult to refute. Why would anyone want to? MarkBernstein (talk) 03:50, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 
I'm sure @AnOminous can correct me but I think it would be pretty hard to prove these in court.

  • The defendant created or participated in a scheme to defraud another out of money;
  • The defendant did so with intent to defraud;
  • It was reasonably foreseeable that the defendant would use wire communications; and
  • The defendant did in fact use interstate wire communications.

It would have to be for more money before the feds would even look at it.
 
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