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Yeah, the main TG is a cesspool. The offshoots are where its at. But the main chat is jannied by different people than the site.Correct me if I wrong but isn't the KF telegram not run by the same people as the site itself? I don't use TG so apologies if I'm mistaken
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You'd think someone so hopelessly obsessed with the farms would know this.
Correct. It can be easily infiltrated and people post things to try and get it taken down.Correct me if I wrong but isn't the KF telegram not run by the same people as the site itself? I don't use TG so apologies if I'm mistaken
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You'd think someone so hopelessly obsessed with the farms would know this.
That fag already tried that once and have got dunked real hard by judge. Elliot's claims were a typical hysteric whining about his feefees and "defamation" when it turned out that he have indeed got some shady shit done. Oh well!No wonder Liz mentioned going to tech companies instead of the court.
Johnny Fallout is such a fucking obsessive weirdo I wouldn't be surprised if he tried something so retarded it ended up fucking himself in the process.But back to Sinseer - he has been going hard after Netkas recently and has threatned to call the police on "revenge porn" which was taken from John's own website. So he would be reporting himself.
Correct me if I wrong but isn't the KF telegram not run by the same people as the site itself? I don't use TG so apologies if I'm mistaken
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You'd think someone so hopelessly obsessed with the farms would know this.
It's been his entire Internet existence, it's why he's banned from the D&D, Fallout, Discord, etc communities. 100% sinseer is the most active user in that telegram, which is a cesspit and the only people who communicate in it regularly (especially when the site is up) are various trolls, incels, and exceptional retards.It sounds like he enjoys gossiping about people he doesn’t like over the Internet. Isn’t that stalking and harassment in his book?
That fag already tried that once and have got dunked real hard by judge. Elliot's claims were a typical hysteric whining about his feefees and "defamation" when it turned out that he have indeed got some shady shit done. Oh well!![]()
Nah, it's run by people not particularly relateed to farms. How did that happened? Beats me, I don't know, neither give a damn, BUT! I was TG chat moderator and boy have I had a good time from time to time, truly.Correct me if I wrong but isn't the KF telegram not run by the same people as the site itself? I don't use TG so apologies if I'm mistaken
Wonder how many splinters are there now and how much is run by literal troons\pedos that would like to discriminate our Dear Feeder for a hefty of copper coin.Yeah, the main TG is a cesspool. The offshoots are where its at. But the main chat is jannied by different people than the site.
Absolutely. Which makes him a perfect pink triangle kiwi.It sounds like he enjoys gossiping about people he doesn’t like over the Internet. Isn’t that stalking and harassment in his book?
Oof, I apologise, I mistook his google shenanigans with kiwi lolsuits.Lol! Do you have a link to the court docs for that?
I take this as evidence that Liz is behind Endkiwifarms.netJekyll's commonly used with GitHub pages to publish simple sites, so I did a quick search there, but no dice. Then did a site search (site:github.com "endkiwifarms"
) with my preferred search engine and got this:
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You get a 404 if you visit the URL. Maybe LFJ accidentally created it as a public repo first?
Edit: HTTP response headers for endkiwifarms.net show it's served by GitHub.
HTTP:HTTP/1.1 200 OK Accept-Ranges: bytes Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * Age: 0 Cache-Control: max-age=600 Connection: keep-alive Content-Encoding: gzip Content-Length: 1532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2022 01:07:01 GMT ETag: W/"6358c285-1135" Last-Modified: Wed, 26 Oct 2022 05:15:49 GMT Server: GitHub.com
On Kiwi Farms' recent return to the open internet
Nov 2, 2022
As members of the End Kiwi Farms campaign originally predicted in September, after being held in violation of Cloudflare's Terms of Service and Human Rights Policy, Kiwi Farms has bounced between various marginal providers. Eventually, no provider was both able and willing to be named as their gateway to the internet. Only their domain registrar, Epik, and an Epik subsidiary, Terrahost, are left as the public front for Kiwi Farms.
While Kiwi Farms almost certainly has multiple suppliers besides Epik and Terrahost (some of whom may not even know what they are hosting, due to traffic tunneling and encryption), it is telling that the internet community has cast out Kiwi Farms. So called “free speech” reaches its limits once enough people get hurt. Just as the internet systematically rejects spam and malware, the people who operate the internet should also reject attempts to cause significant harm to vulnerable groups and individuals.
Zayo and Voxility, tier 1 and tier 2 network providers respectively, both acted decisively once they learned about abuse being perpetuated by one of their customers. Epik should know that it will face mounting pressure upon its suppliers, whether they be Amazon Web Services, which provides it with DNS services, or GTT Communications and Sprint (now known as T-Mobile for Business), which provide it with Tier 1 transit and reachability to the rest of the internet.
This is an exceptional case, because Kiwi Farms has been kicked off of every managed hosting provider they've been on. For good cause, as their sole purpose is to violate the terms of service that every turnkey hosting provider is willing to tolerate. Most other sites so systematically rejected by mainstream providers would turn to Tor and the dark web, but Kiwi Farms behaved differently. Having burned all their bridges with managed providers, they turned to using their own infrastructure, all the way down to the IP assignment, ASN, and BGP layers.
Kiwi Farms has disguised themselves as just a fellow peer in the internet community, "1776 Solutions," and exploited our trust in each other to disseminate not just hatred, but incitement to violence. Our systems are designed for every network operator to act in good faith and assume others are acting in good faith when passing on reports or concerns, but what if they aren't? What if they are threatening our colleagues with harassment and violence?
What recourse do we have if the holder of a RIR-assigned netblock is using it specifically to harm people with no legitimate purpose? What if they refuse to take action on any reports of abuse because they themselves are the ones perpetuating abuse? What if the holder of an AS designation insists you peer with them on the same terms other paying transit clients do, pinky swears that they'll abide by your ToS and have an abuse contact, yet ignores the abuse reports, or worse, retaliates against those who report abuse?
We already agree as an Internet infrastructure community that CSAM is abhorrent and has no place on our networks, that blatant attempts to hijack traffic, disseminate worms/malware, or launch volumetric denial of service attacks should be blocked at source. That anyone who knowingly tolerates such is in turn also not welcome. DROP (Don't Route or Peer) is an effective technique that we have used for decades to manage abusive actors.
Speech is only free for all if those who are in the most danger are not silenced through threat of violence from others' "free speech". In the absence of governmental action (given governments may not always agree, are often the threat model, and turn a blind eye to harm), employees must collectively exercise their ethical obligations as engineers to prevent harm. We hope both that providers will devise human rights framework-based Terms of Service that reject censorship of vulnerable communities' voices such as sex workers, ethnic minorities such as Palestinians, and transgender people, while also enforcing that their services are not to be used to knowingly perpetuate terrorism, violence, and genocide.
Of course, this does not mean that action at the network layer should be taken against responsible managed service operators and application-layer platforms that make good faith efforts to respond to abuse reports. It is bad-faith clients seeking to avoid accountability that have no place among our community.
We're not naive about the possibility that Kiwi Farms will survive for a period of time on Tor, with anonymous providers, but only its most dedicated users will follow it there; anti-fascist researchers will be able to gather evidence every step of the way, and digital attacks that are not turnkey to mitigate are a persistent reality on the dark web. Decreasing the visibility and access to genocidal rhetoric has a provable amount of benefit in harm reduction, and the site’s economic viability diminishes when it lacks free rein to fundraise and further radicalize others. The impossibility of fully deplatforming hate does not mean we must hand hate a megaphone or weapon.
"Our systems are designed for every network operator to act in good faith and assume others are acting in good faith when passing on reports or concerns, but what if they aren't? What if they are threatening our colleagues with harassment and violence?
What recourse do we have if the holder of a RIR-assigned netblock is using it specifically to harm people with no legitimate purpose? What if they refuse to take action on any reports of abuse because they themselves are the ones perpetuating abuse? What if the holder of an AS designation insists you peer with them on the same terms other paying transit clients do, pinky swears that they'll abide by your ToS and have an abuse contact, yet ignores the abuse reports, or worse, retaliates against those who report abuse?"
DROP (Don't Route or Peer) is an effective technique that we have used for decades to manage abusive actors.
The impossibility of fully deplatforming hate does not mean we must hand hate a megaphone or weapon.
I checked https://urlscan.io again today, and lo behold, Kiwifarms.net no longer constantly appears in that list on the frontpage every 10 seconds. It still shows up occasionally, but much less frequently than yesterday:They offer an API, so presumably someone is automating with it. The last scan I saw originated in Australia, where Elliot spends a lot of time.
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It's likely a website run by Liz, see above for the Github copy suggesting he's behind it. Also the language is similar to Liz.What's this EndKiwiFarms site, do we know?
The language seems more LizFong than Sinseer? But not fully sure.
Me too.I'm willing to bet that it's LFJ.
No fucking way, have you read Kevin's tweets? Kevin is German, and he's mentally ill. He sounds like a fucking unhinged borderline violent German mental patient. He doesn't sound anything like Liz, and there's no way he would've written this.It could also be Kevin Karhan (Kevin Katze), but I think what's most notable is that it is for sure not John "Sinseer" and that it is using a generic brand (EndKiwiFarms) that is a synonym for #DropKiwiFarms.
I saw that too, that it was all from Australia, and I thought that was another indication it was Liz. (Though if you look closely at their interface under "options", you can select to make it look like you're scanning from Australia. I''d guess he selected that.)Lmao, how embarrassing. Imagine just sitting there seething and obsessing over KF all day, while everyone else is having fun. Troons really actively choose to be miserable.
There are thousands of results, all from the same IP.
Edit: Given the amount of scans, did he buy a subscription just to spy on KF? They start at 199$/month
LMAO, I actually love this as a metaphor for the DDoS, I'm stealing it.Daily Dilation of Stinkditch must have begun, I've switched over to TOR.
No fucking way, have you read Kevin's tweets? Kevin is German, and he's mentally ill. He sounds like a fucking unhinged borderline violent German mental patient. He doesn't sound anything like Liz, and there's no way he would've written this.
- hatred and discrimination
- doxing and swatting victims
- hosting child porn
- leaked transgender nudes
- hosting copyright content
- running the forum without a license
For being ACAB and down to break laws, these troons sure do love appealing to government agencies and using the police when their fee fees get hurt.More threads such as this please. Threads like this are way more valuable than making another sock to troll John:
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Guess who shows up (he has been tweeting at everyone who's ever tweeted anything in support of KF):
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"your stupid freedom of speech"... I guess when you're a brain-dead conformist who has never expressed any opinion that wasn't in line with the accepted mainstream, speech does seem kinda stupid and superfluous, something you probably could do without because everyone else is already doing the thinking and talking for you. For those of us who think our own thoughts, we greatly value our ability to express them.
OK, let's break this down:
Protected speech in the US.
No evidence whatsoever linking any of these back to KF or KFers. This is all hearsay of hearsay being turned into a smear-campaign backed by agenda driven journalists who want to be gatekeepers on the internet.
Naia - who joined and then broke with #DropKiwiFarms because it was a bad faith campaign - openly stated on Twatter that #DropKiwiFarms falsely reported KF for CP and that all of these abuse complaints were made in bad faith.
This is a reference to Laurelai Bailey's and Keffals' ugly pictures from their respective t-porn website where they were openly whoring themselves. Again, these were not "leaked", it was Laurelai and Keffals who made them public to promote their services as out and proud sex workers. I guess they're no longer out and proud about this line of work. Why are you shaming sex workers, huh? Are you claiming it's shameful work?
Suck my Fair Use Clause.
When you are stealiiiiiinggg...
Geez, so much for "be gay do crimes"...I am running pirated software right now, Gab. Does that make you angry, that I refuse to make Microsoft and Google rich? Everything on my computer, from the OS, to this browser, all of it, is 100% pirated. All the trannie porn on my computer is also pirated cos fuck all you sex worker trannies. I will break into a house, steal everything and then steal the house itself. I will buy nothing from anyone ever. If the internet is broken anyway, let's bankrupt it.