A PSA: Dear non-Southerners and non-Hillbillies...

[soy_king]

I'm retarded and like mountains.

I like mountains too, doesn't make me think the people there haven't been completely abandoned and arent living a life closer to Sub-Saharan Africa than a developed country

 

[Shidoen]

I like mountains too, doesn't make me think the people there haven't been completely abandoned and arent living a life closer to Sub-Saharan Africa than a developed country

Could be worse, the Africans could be more inbred.

 

[Illumithotty]

There's an interesting timelines in the Appalachians specifically but pretty much any eastern hill country. That kind of inhospitable terrain was mostly settled by people with some intelligence and hardiness, because otherwise you're going to just be a pile of Halloween decorations after a few years of eating roots and berries. Not that these are some sort of pre-Industrial supermen or anything, mostly just socially maladaptive assholes that had enough on the ball to put together some sort of homesteading life for themselves. So not necessarily the people you'd want to emulate or lionize in modern life - even if you're some hardcore homesteader, there's better ways to go about it than trying to get self-sustaining up in the hills - but probably more like the NEET version of the Amish.

But of course, the Appalachians are mountains and mountains tend to have lots of neat shit that you can sell to an industrialized society. Coal, iron, etc. But alas, all that space is filled up with a bunch of crazy fucks that like to fuck tallow-soaked deerhide after they've finished reading their beat-to-shit copies of Chaucer. So the theory I've read awhile ago was that there was a distinct effort to make all the hillbillies look .. like hillbillies. Just a bunch of cousin fucking drunks. The problem being that taking that as a badge of pride lead to them becoming a bunch of cousin fucking drunks because, remember, these are all socially isolated and idiosyncratic weirdos. No one's there to provide a control group, so all that fuck-you energy swirls down the drain because the nearest social pressure is two hills over and past dozens of bear traps.

So all these homesteaders eventually get wrapped up in their own self image of social outlaws that also happen to be dissipate losers, and when making whisky out of acorns falls flat for the third time in a row, they're a lot more open to leasing out the mineral rights from their property. Even before there's a real community beyond isolated families, well, the money is gone. There's just some on-paper ownership that's had all the financial opportunity in it carved out a bit at a time until they're holding onto worthless land rights in inhospitable surroundings. So there's that family legacy of being true and honest pioneers that're just so much hardier than everyone else, and nothing to show for it but pregnant sisters and crippling addictions.

 

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So the theory I've read awhile ago was that there was a distinct effort to make all the hillbillies look .. like hillbillies. Just a bunch of cousin fucking drunks. The problem being that taking that as a badge of pride lead to them becoming a bunch of cousin fucking drunks because, remember, these are all socially isolated and idiosyncratic weirdos. No one's there to provide a control group, so all that fuck-you energy swirls down the drain because the nearest social pressure is two hills over and past dozens of bear traps.

There is some truth in it, since it's like what they did to blacks with blaxploitation, targeted advertising with Newports and Hennessey, and later gangster rap, but with hillbillies and rednecks they used outlaw country, Dukes of Hazzard, Nascar etc. as the tools for influencing culture to make rednecks into good unquestioning consoomers.

 

[LeChampion1992]

my hometown is technically part of Appalachia, or at least was. the oldest church in my town is a Presbyterian Church, and although it's mostly paddy, kraut, and wop now, you still find some old placenames of Scots Irish origin.

That said, anyone who idolizes Appalachia rather than rightfully viewing it as being the developmental equivalent of the hood is a retard.

Appalachia is great despite the poverty and honestly I prefer the worst of the hillbillies to the best of the bug men soy faces.

 

[Wormy]

Appalachia is great despite the poverty

Spoken like a tourist who hasn't had to live here.

and honestly I prefer the worst of the hillbillies to the best of the bug men soy faces.

Way to tell me you've not even begun to see the worst of hillbillies. Soyboy bugmen are just cringe. Hillbilly degenerates do things that would make HR Giger puke. At least bugmen keep their teeth.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Spoken like a tourist who hasn't had to live here.

Way to tell me you've not even begun to see the worst of hillbillies. Soyboy bugmen are just cringe. Hillbilly degenerates do things that would make HR Giger puke. At least bugmen keep their teeth.

Here is the thing at least when the toothless hillbilly is on meth because he's stuck in a cycle of poverty they're at some level honest about their Fucked up ness. The problem with the average bugman type is they try to make it a valid.

I come from the south gods country and poverty is Appalachia in a nutshell and there are places even feds don't go to and disappear.

 

[Wormy]

Here is the thing at least when the toothless hillbilly is on meth because he's stuck in a cycle of poverty they're at some level honest about their Fucked up ness.

*TTTTPPHHT*

One word; Shanny4Christ

You think that bitch is an anomaly? The reason why she fascinates me as a lolcow is that there's a lot of her sort out there. Fat, degenerate, hypocritical white trash who think that they're God's special little creature either for their religion, their southernness or some other arbitrary trait. Entitled, treat their kids like shit, appreciate nothing, and a perpetual victimhood mentality that would give any urban ape a run for their money in the victimhood department. No, just as many are not open about their fucked up ness.

The problem with the average bugman type is they try to make it a valid.

So do the trailer trash, and just as obnoxiously. As Save the Loli said they had plenty of help since it sold shit.

I come from the south gods country and poverty is Appalachia in a nutshell and there are places even feds don't go to and disappear.

I know them too. I know where those coal roads go and I can tell at a glance which parts to stay the hell away from. Some parts of the south are God's country, yes (Smoky mountains, fuck yea) but most of it ain't.

There is some truth in it, since it's like what they did to blacks with blaxploitation, targeted advertising with Newports and Hennessey, and later gangster rap, but with hillbillies and rednecks they used outlaw country, Dukes of Hazzard, Nascar etc. as the tools for influencing culture to make rednecks into good unquestioning consoomers.

And boy howdy did we fall for it. We fell for it so fucking hard that it took all the soul and genuine'ness out of country music and turned into the shit tier slop known as "Hick Hop"

 

[Montalbane]

Seems like someone hates their fellow hillbillies.

 

[AnOminous]

There is some truth in it, since it's like what they did to blacks with blaxploitation, targeted advertising with Newports and Hennessey, and later gangster rap, but with hillbillies and rednecks they used outlaw country, Dukes of Hazzard, Nascar etc. as the tools for influencing culture to make rednecks into good unquestioning consoomers.

Waylon Jennings, Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard and Johnny Cash are who fucked up country? What the ever loving livid fuck are you talking about?

 

[MachoMan]

I spent a few years living in actual deep Appalachia with people who looked and acted like potatoes on legs. I have also lived in deep blue cities. I fucking hate people regardless of where I am.

 

[Caesare]

Still Southern though.

Only geographically, not at all traditionally.

Yes we do own pickup trucks and love our guns. Most people can't drive because native Texans are aggressive and California transplants don't understand native Texans drivers are used to doing 80mph when it's raining cats and dogs as well as dry as the gobi desert often in the same year.

I notice that every time I visit. Texans are extremely aggressive drivers yet whenever I'm there, I see way less wrecks than I do at home. How does that work?

French Creoles, Cajuns and Acadians are all just French hillbillies. Change my mind.

We are, but we have a defined heritage and culture that's not cousin or sister fucking. We also have our own cuisine and traditions. Hillbillies are a dime a dozen and can't tell you why they do the things they do outside of "because that's how paw did it".

Acadians are Cajuns. Cajun means Acadian and Acadian is an ancestry. Also, most people that identify as "Cajuns" in current year are really just Creoles. Their last names existed in Louisiana long before the Acadians(Cajuns) came here.

You'll see people with last names like Fontenot, Rabalais and Mayeux, three French surnames that were in Louisiana before the Acadians arrived. They're French Creoles (whites of French descent) living as Louisiana.

Even the famed Cajun chef Paul Prudhomme’s surname is French origin in Louisiana before the Acadians arrived. Same thing with Chef John Folse…that’s a German surname for this “Cajun”. And “Cajuns” like Justin Wilson? Does Wilson sound Acadian? No. Edward Edwards, the Cajun politician? Edwards is not an Acadian surname. The famous Cajun fiddler Dennis McGee? Does McGee sound Acadian to you? Not at all. Ever go to Johnson’s boucaniere for boudin? Not a very Cajun surname.

How about some of them Cajuns with Spanish surnames like Romero, Manuel, Castile, Blanco, or Barrios or Cajuns with German surnames like Toups, Folse, Waguespack, Haydel, Tregre, Zeringue, schexnayder etc. Lots of people not the same as the Acadian settlers of colonial Louisiana and not real Cajuns.

This thing about south Louisiana cuisine being dubbed nationwide as Cajun and even done so by “Cajuns” themselves. Yet when looking at the dishes origins, most of it is not Acadian. Jambalaya and shrimp Creole is Spanish. Okra Gumbo and smothered okra and tomatoes is African. Courtbouillon (coo-bee-yon), sauce piquante and chicken fricassée is French, red beans and rice is St. Domingan (beans and rice is found across Latin America and the Caribbean), corn maque choux and boiled crawfish with corn and potatoes is Native American etc. (however the crab boil spice for the boiled crawfish are not Native American). Suddenly we can see a cuisine that is not very Acadian.

Acadians gave us things like etouffée and boudin made with rice in it (old New Orleans used to have a riceless boudin similar to the one in France but it went extinct by the late 20th century) but we can see Acadians contributed PART of it like everyone else and to call the entire cuisine Cajun is just factually WRONG. Also this whole “Creole style has tomatoes and Cajun style does not” stuff, or “creole style is City cooking and Cajun is country cooking” stuff, these are all make believe. Those are based on region not ancestry, group membership or race. It’s region vs region as Acadiana vs Greater New Orleans and nothing more. A white “Cajun” and a black person from Acadiana will cook and eat in a similar style to each other just as a white and a black in Greater New Orleans will cook and eat in a similar style to each other. Ancestry or race has nothing to do with any of it.

The traditional name of our cuisine across south Louisiana is called Creole, just like the traditional people and culture of south Louisiana are historically called the same. There are white creoles, black creoles, mixed race creoles. Even Filipino ones (look up St. Malo and Manila Village in St. Bernard Parish and Jefferson Parish in southeast Louisiana). Cajuns are white Louisiana creoles and were called creoles before the invent of the term Cajun. And most “Cajuns” today are mixed with other things like French, Spanish, German, English/Irish, Italian etc same as New Orleans area whites are. Not at all the same as the Acadians settlers of colonial times. So can they really be called Cajuns (Louisiana Acadians?) Not really. But they do and are. Not a lot of authenticity around.

And let's look at the Creole thing: To be Louisiana Creole, the most important thing is to be born in Louisiana. That’s above all else. The ancestry link to the colonial population is secondary and not even necessary in other situations.

All throughout Louisiana history, the term Creole was used as a synonym for a born and raised Louisiana local. I remember reading a historical Louisiana document once that was about two white men of French descent running for a political office in old New Orleans. One was billed as “a genuine Creole of this Parish” (meaning Orleans Parish) while his opponent was billed as “Foreign French”. Well the context here was that the one billed as “a genuine Creole of this Parish” was the one that was born and raised in New Orleans. The one that was billed as “Foreign” was an immigrant from France. Both men were fully French ancestry and would have registered in the same genetic group in a DNA test. The Creole was the local guy, the non-creole was the immigrant. Creole used here in this context was 100% about being local or not. It had nothing to do with race, ancestry or even colonial ancestry.

Look at produce. The famed Creole tomato. Named by French Creoles (whites of local French descent) in St. Bernard Parish that owned farms and was then spread to Plaquemines Parish. They planted a superior luscious home grown tomato that was made popular. It was given the name creole because it was local. Our local tomato. Look at other food products like creole cream cheese and creole mustard. Creole cream cheese from French Creoles, creole mustard from German Creoles (whites of local German descent). They are both referred to as creole because they are local products. Same for the once popular creole ponies. They were locally bred and prized. Creole cattle too. You see the pattern? Creole = local. That has been its meaning for centuries. Even before the colonial ancestry thing was thrown in. In reality, all Louisianians are Creoles that are born in Louisiana, regardless of who or when their ancestors arrived in Louisiana.

 

[AnOminous]

I notice that every time I visit. Texans are extremely aggressive drivers yet whenever I'm there, I see way less wrecks than I do at home. How does that work?

I'd guess that most road rage incidents are resolved by deciding who has the bigger dick rather than actually crashing into or shooting each other.

 

[Wormy]

Seems like someone hates their fellow hillbillies.

More like some of us hillbillies are a little annoyed at us being so romanticized, especially by a certain political half. Even people who frequent this joint, have seen humanity's real face in fact, can fall into that trap and should know better.

I'd guess that most road rage incidents are resolved by deciding who has the bigger dick rather than actually crashing into or shooting each other.

Nigga Moments aren't just a black thing.

 

[Montalbane]

More like some of us hillbillies are a little annoyed at us being so romanticized, especially by a certain political half. Even people who frequent this joint, have seen humanity's real face in fact, can fall into that trap and should know better.

Nigga Moments aren't just a black thing.

Aren't you the dude who has a mental breakdown every day that ends in y?

 

[Wormy]

Aren't you the dude who has a mental breakdown every day that ends in y?

Yea, that's me.

 

[The Foxtrot]

Yea, that's me.

That's your cue to, as leftoids like you say, do better.

 

[Wormy]

That's your cue to, as leftoids like you say, do better.

Already am, old chum.

 

[Montalbane]

Already am, old chum.

Doesn't seem like it.

You sound like a very neurotic and hateful person.
Get help.

 

[Wormy]

Doesn't seem like it.

You sound like a very neurotic and hateful person.
Get help.

Neurotic, yea, I can cop to that.

But hateful? No, that's been draining out of my system like pus.

Again, you people rail on about how worthless and Woke therapists are, why direction point me to them?