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[derpherp2]

The GOP leadership is fine with losing if it means killing Trump and populism as a whole.

Yeah funny story.
Them fucking over DRUMPF wouldn't mean losing, it would mean dying as a political party.
I'm all for it either way, either we have a political party on the mend or we only have one corrupt political party to deal with.

Win-win.

 

[ForgedBlades]

MSNBC is now questioning them.

 

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They have lost CNN.

Repeat: The Democrats, who are Paying CNN to do @Gehenna's job for them, have LOST CNN.

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

The Trump vs. DeSantis primary ends with Trump winning.

I don't care how many of our fellow political autists prefer DeSantis. I don't care how many policy wonk eggheads prefer DeSantis. I don't care what GOPe-PAC social media astro-turf campaigns get sent.

DeSantis loses the blue collar and working class decisively. He also loses a huge amount of the Florida electorate because of a feeling of betrayal which is hard to describe. And that is a death knell to a Republican primary contender.

*IF* DeSantis is foolhardy enough to allow himself to get a big-head after getting sweet-nothings whispered into his ears by embittered establishmentarian RINOs, he will get his asshole blown out in the Primary. It also probably succeeds in throwing the Presidency to the Democrats again.
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As an aside, I feel sorry for Doug Mastriano, this was supposed to be his night, and all anyone can talk about is a supposed rivalry between Trump and DeSantis.

If DeSantis is smart, he'd either stay out of the 2024 GOP Primary or try to get Trump to make him the VP candidate. Personally, I'd say the former is the best bet for DeSantis since I could see him running in 2028.

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They have lost CNN.

Repeat: The Democrats, who are Paying CNN to do @Gehenna's job for them, have LOST CNN.

I guess this is truly The End of Days.

 

[Kane Lives]

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They have lost CNN.

Repeat: The Democrats, who are Paying CNN to do @Gehenna's job for them, have LOST CNN.

The sound of rats fleeing a sinking ship has never been sweeter.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

The sound of rats fleeing a sinking ship has never been sweeter.

over a decade of being a blatant propaganda machine seems to be over and now I like them for being Basied and Redpilled now (jk of course, you have to be a literal mouth breathing golem to forget that quickly).

 

[MrJokerRager]

The GOP leadership is fine with losing if it means killing Trump and populism as a whole.

Setting aside the morality and values of Putler and Russia in general.

A Democrat progressive kike recently wanted Russia destroyed because Russia is too white and Christian conservative from their POV.

Also the Jew York Times recently put out another butthurt piece against Russia for rejecting BIG GAY to keep it simple.

We have the party of Ronnie Raygun offering no opposition to the cunts on the other side willing to destroy a nation because of the reason that it doesn't accept San Francisco Values.

That precedent could be applied for future forever wars since well following the teachings of Jesus is a threat to the DC uniparty now internationally as well.

The Trump vs. DeSantis primary ends with Trump winning.

I don't care how many of our fellow political autists prefer DeSantis. I don't care how many policy wonk eggheads prefer DeSantis. I don't care what GOPe-PAC social media astro-turf campaigns get sent.

DeSantis loses the blue collar and working class decisively. He also loses a huge amount of the Florida electorate because of a feeling of betrayal which is hard to describe. And that is a death knell to a Republican primary contender.

*IF* DeSantis is foolhardy enough to allow himself to get a big-head after getting sweet-nothings whispered into his ears by embittered establishmentarian RINOs, he will get his asshole blown out in the Primary. It also probably succeeds in throwing the Presidency to the Democrats again.
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As an aside, I feel sorry for Doug Mastriano, this was supposed to be his night, and all anyone can talk about is a supposed rivalry between Trump and DeSantis.

Fox News put out an article over Trump's new nickname for DeSantis at this rally today.

The comments section is full of butthurt against Trump for having no decorum lol.

Trump mocks DeSantis at Pennsylvania rally: 'Ron DeSanctimonious' (Archive)

Former President Donald Trump took a swipe at Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis at a rally on Saturday night referring to him as "Ron DeSanctimonious" in what could be a sign of growing tension between the two potential presidential candidates.

"We’re winning big in the Republican Party for the nomination like nobody’s ever seen before," Trump told a crowd in Latrobe, Pennsylvania on Saturday night before going down the list of other Republicans who could potentially challenge him in 2024.

"There it is, Trump at 71 percent, Ron DeSanctimonious at 10%," Trump told the crowd while reading approval numbers of various Republicans.

"Mike Pence at seven, oh, Mike is doing better than I thought," Trump continued. "Liz Cheney there’s no way she’s at 4%. There’s no way. There’s no way. But we’re at 71 to 10 to 7 to 4."

The jab from Trump comes as the two are widely considered the two top Republican contenders to clinch the Republican presidential nomination and reports have circulated about possible growing tension between the two camps.

DeSantis dismissed rumors of a rift between him and Trump earlier this year saying that Trump is a "friend of mine."

"He wants to see Republicans doing well," DeSantis told Fox News in February. "And I think when media is trying to act like he's upset at me for doing well, I think that's total bunk. I think they're just making it up."

Over the last few months, Trump routinely out-performs DeSantis in polls of Republican voters ahead of 2024, but the governor remains Trump's most prominent potential rival.

A presidential straw poll at the Turning Point USA Student Action Summit found that 78.7% of attendees favored Trump to be the Republican nominee in 2024. Another straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference in August found that Trump had 69% support from attendees to run in 2024. DeSantis came in with just 24% support.

Trump publicly voiced displeasure with DeSantis last month after the Florida Republican endorsed Colorado Republican Senate Candidate Joe O'Dea despite O'Dea's vocal criticism of Trump.

"A BIG MISTAKE!" Trump posted on Truth Social in response to the move.

Trump will be attending a rally in Florida to support Florida Republican Marco Rubio on Sunday in Miami at an event that Fox News reported did not include an invitation for DeSantis despite his immense popularity with Republicans in the state.

Trump has not yet said whether he plans to run for president but many political experts believe he will make the announcement shortly after Tuesday's midterm elections.

DeSantis refused to say during a debate last month whether he will run in 2024 fueling speculation that he is considering throwing his hat in the ring.

Representatives for DeSantis and Trump did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.

 

[ForgedBlades]

I mean, Joe is finished if Tuesday goes the way it's expected to. My bet is we see the first op-ed from the NYT or WP questioning his mental fitness for office before Friday. They are going to immediately start throwing him under the bus Wednesday morning.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I mean, Joe is finished if Tuesday goes the way it's expected to. My bet is we see the first op-ed from the NYT or WP questioning his mental fitness for office before Friday. They are going to immediately start throwing him under the bus Wednesday morning.

The only way they changing.

Is if the Democrats tell the Californian ideologues in the party to fuck off.

Or murder them all.

Or Russia nukes California.

I don't seem them fully abandoning Biden because of the retardation in California that funds him and supports him.

Plus we still got plenty of morons that believe bullshit like the GOP is banning books, in reference to DeSantis trying to stop CRT and keep the pozz out of schools.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

you have to be a literal mouth breathing golem to forget that quickly

Ov Vey! I'll have you know that Golem's have a very long memory. They are just retarded.

 

[Exterminatus]

Impatience is dangerous.

The GOP does not want Trump near the reins of power again - at some level 2020 would not have happened without support from both sides of the Uniparty.

Absolutely, just look at Georgia. The GOP held power there and then literally did fucking nothing to stop the Dems in Atlanta from bringing in all their fake ballots. It was a combined effort from Reps and Dems to stop him, something of that magnitude does not happen in a country like this unless both sides work to make it happen. Remember Fox News called Arizona for Biden hours before anyone else did, someone gave them the heads up that the fix was in.

I think Gehenna or someone else mentioned it on here pages ago, but it was all part of the scheme. Democrats promised they would play ball with the Republicans if they got Trump out of the way and then once this happened, they almost immediately stabbed the Reps in the back.

It was supposed to be a grand return of "business as usual" in Washington, but Biden and his handlers went in hard against the MAGA guys and of course you had Jan 6th to give them a cover for their blatantly illegal shenanigans; leftists wanted retribution for the American public having the audacity to kick Queen Hillary to the curb and ruining their well laid plans for a one-party state.

Everything up to this point, the inflation, the COVID restrictions, all of it is done in a calculated way. There is no Hanlon's razor here, it's all malice. They hate you; Biden hates you; Kamala hates you. Their overall approach is very much in the same vein as an abusive spouse that physically and mentally abuses their partner and then blames them for making them inflict the abuse.

 

[Cuckoman]

The Trump vs. DeSantis primary ends with Trump winning.

The DeSantis presidency run for 2024 is just TDS fever fantasies. He is still young. He still has work to do in Florida and he is just getting more and more popular. There is zero urgency for him to throw it all away and rush into a 2024 run.
Maybe he will run in 2032 ? Eventually he will likely run unless his popularity craters but he will absolutely not run in 2024.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

I don't have an article on hand, but I remember that the Bubonic Plague, the black death itself popped up again in California because of illegal's years ago.

Yersina pestis is endemic in prairie dogs and ground squirrels in the American west, and pops up in California and Utah pretty regularly. There isn't person-to-person transmission, usually, and the numbers stay low. It's not a specifically illegals thing. I'd worry more about TB, which is rampant in both the illegal population and the homeless/addict population. It can spread like wildfire in communities with poor health treatment, poor nutrition, and suppressed immune systems, and it can be very expensive and time-consuming to treat.

 

[Cuckoman]

I mean, Joe is finished if Tuesday goes the way it's expected to. My bet is we see the first op-ed from the NYT or WP questioning his mental fitness for office before Friday. They are going to immediately start throwing him under the bus Wednesday morning.

Likely. The blame must be assigned so why not assign it to the guy on the way out. It was all his fault. Everyone else is without blame. Accept the loss and that Biden is solely responsible. Do not investigate further.

 

[CarlosDanger]

Of that, I am well aware.

The question is: Is DeSantis fine with killing everything he has worked for? I very much doubt it, but time will tell.

I get all this and I agree with the thinking but something obviously happened between Trump and DeSantis to strain the relationship. You don't go from Trump endorsing DeSantis, wining and dining with DeSantis at MAL on numerous occasions, holding fundraisers for him, calling him a very good friend just 6 months ago to Trump going to rally for Rubio and a few other Republicans but not DeSantis, and taking a shot at him at a rally a few days before the midterms. Also one thing people aren't mentioning is how fast after Trump took his potshot at DeSantis, Fox News and Pompeo started kissing DeSantis' ass, and saying DeSantis is going to have a blowout win in spite of Trump.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I get all this and I agree with the thinking but something obviously happened between Trump and DeSantis to strain the relationship. You don't go from Trump endorsing DeSantis, wining and dining with DeSantis at MAL on numerous occasions, holding fundraisers for him, calling him a very good friend just 6 months ago to Trump going to rally for Rubio and a few other Republicans but not DeSantis, and taking a shot at him at a rally a few days before the midterms. Also one thing people aren't mentioning is how fast after Trump took his potshot at DeSantis, Fox News and Pompeo started kissing DeSantis' ass, and saying DeSantis is going to have a blowout win in spite of Trump.

Anyone ever think it's calculated?

Make it seem like the relationship is strained, watch the Dems cozy up to DeSantis, see who goes to DeSantis, who stays with Trump?

 

[BONE_Buddy]

I get all this and I agree with the thinking but something obviously happened between Trump and DeSantis to strain the relationship.

The latest episode revolves around one of the congressional candidates in Florida. I forget which one exactly, but there was an establishmentarian never-trump kind of guy who got the primary. Trump had been occasionally bashing the guy, even after the nomination. Meanwhile DeSantis has been supporting every Republican on the tickets, even the shit ones.

This is the supposed pre-text for this latest episode. Pretty flimsy if you ask me, but who knows.

Anyone ever think it's calculated?

Make it seem like the relationship is strained, watch the Dems cozy up to DeSantis, see who goes to DeSantis, who stays with Trump?

It's possible, Trump with his history of WWE is no stranger to putting a faux rivalry on display.

As others have said, it could be DeSantis grifting the Establishment types.

Or it could be literally nothing.

 

[Gehenna]

The latest episode revolves around one of the congressional candidates in Florida. I forget which one exactly, but there was an establishmentarian never-trump kind of guy who got the primary. Trump had been occasionally bashing the guy, even after the nomination. Meanwhile DeSantis has been supporting every Republican on the tickets, even the shit ones.

This is the supposed pre-text for this latest episode. Pretty flimsy if you ask me, but who knows.

It's possible, Trump with his history of WWE is no stranger to putting a faux rivalry on display.

As others have said, it could be DeSantis grifting the Establishment types.

Or it could be literally nothing.

Like many things going on right now, the only time we will have a warning about a DeSantis backstab is the exact moment he does it. -If- he does, he would have to know it spells the end of any link to the Trump caucus, meaning he'd lose a ton of support instantly. So it would come suddenly and seemingly from nowhere.

That being said I don't think things are as strained as some here think between Trump and DeSantis. Trump made a comment about him? And? So what? It wasn't even that strong of a shot, Trump has said worse things to active allies. The GOPe is making overtures to him? And? What could they promise him he will not already have?

And so on. The evidence is often more grasping at straws than anything solid.

 

[northstar747]

It was supposed to be a grand return of "business as usual" in Washington, but Biden and his handlers went in hard against the MAGA guys

Its also the biden admin is built on...prog values gay this poc that. they did so much stab the uniparty as just fail to sell the great uniter shit.

 

[BONE_Buddy]

That being said I don't think things are as strained as some here think between Trump and DeSantis. Trump made a comment about him? And? So what? It wasn't even that strong of a shot, Trump has said worse things to active allies. The GOPe is making overtures to him? And? What could they promise him he will not already have?

You know as well as I do that organizations and people who are starved for suitable content will make a mountain out of a molehill.

In this case the media has been utterly desperate to find any sign of MAGA infighting. So they seized on it. And now the normies who pay no attention to politics outside of the biennial elections are talking about it because the opinion makers are talking about it.

It's a manufactured shitstorm playing on the Republican base's fear of being stabbed in the back again.

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All this is reminding me of a similar situation that is happening in the Ukraine-Russia War:

In Kherson city (RUS controlled), there was a Russian flag taken down from the Regional Assembly/Administrative Building. This along with an ongoing civilian evacuation and an "all options are on the table" answer from a General lead to a massive wave of panic and speculation about if the Russian Military was going to withdraw from the Western side of the Dnieper River.

Sure the Russian military is actually moving more troops over the river to the Western side, as well as actively digging around Kherson and the frontline. That Regional Assembly Building was also going unused by the Russian military, or anybody else with a direct connection to the actually fighting. On top of all that the Ukrainian counter-attacks on that front are an order of magnitude smaller than they were a couple of months ago.

But it played to Russian fears and Ukrainian hopes after that Kharkiv circus.

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"Don't go reading the tea leaves" is strong advice in general, but very few people have the discipline to apply it rigorously. Myself Included.