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That being said I don't think things are as strained as some here think between Trump and DeSantis. Trump made a comment about him? And? So what? It wasn't even that strong of a shot, Trump has said worse things to active allies.
That was essentially what I thought when I heard it. Trump could've said something a lot worse than "Ron DeSantis is a moralizer" if he wanted to. 'Sanctimonious' is pretty meh on the spectrum of insults you can lob at a conservative politician, even 'holier-than-thou' (a synonym) would have more of an impact.
 
Trump has a rally in Florida tonight, I'd love to see Trump flat out say "I like Ron, he's a good guy, but he's got some RINOs, we call them RINOs, you know who I'm talking about. People aligned with Mitch McConnell and COCO Chow, they want your governor give up on fixing Florida and to run against me, your favorite president, when I decide to announce something. And let me say that day might be very soon, very very soon. If Ron is smart he'll realize they're playing him to be....BRUTUS, oh that story is a sad story, a really sad story. Little Marco, now that was a funny name, now he's just big Marco, as big as my hands look at those big hands, you learned to listen to what the people wanted and we worked together, right? I think you turned out to be a good guy, you won't let McConnell walk all over you will you."


It is amazing how quickly the known grifters like everyone in the Daily Wire immediately jumped into protecting DeSanctimonius and demanding Trump not run and endorse Desantis while continuing the lie that Trump lost and if Trump runs again he will lose. Perfect example here is that fake tough conservative Chip Roy, so strong he can't even cuss because he's just so manly and moral in his gerrymandered district:

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They think the Fauci thing will stick, it won't, not when Fauci himself talks about lying to Trump along with everyone else, it solidifies Trump's point the swamp wants to kill MAGA at any cost.
 
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I'd really prefer to get Ronnie in against Kamala Harris since then nobody will realize he's a fucking manlet.

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As far as schisming, you guys can fight all you want after the elections. In fact I recommend it, get it all out of the way for 2024. Spend the first half of 2023 just savagely beating each other with golf clubs.
 
I know I'm the doomer conspiracy outlier even among A&H sometimes but I can't shake the feeling that we are going to see some real and true fuckery soon. Not election rigging.

Consider Bidens record and personality. He has not shown a single ounce of respect or veneration for the rule of law or procedure any time it goes against him, he doesn't understand that he isn't actually as popular as the blue haired white house interns have been swearing he is for the last two years, and his personality was already spiteful and vindictive before the dementia set in. And the Democrats are the party of "accuse others of what you intend to do".

If Biden becomes lame duck after these midterms and it looks like he might actually lose 2024 I wonder if his retarded ass will try to do an actual coup or some other shit.
 
I'm firmly in the camp of thinking "DeSanctimonious" means nothing, and that Trump just says whatever the fuck he wants at all times like he's done for the past... forever.
I know I'm the doomer conspiracy outlier even among A&H sometimes but I can't shake the feeling that we are going to see some real and true fuckery soon. Not election rigging.

Consider Bidens record and personality. He has not shown a single ounce of respect or veneration for the rule of law or procedure any time it goes against him, he doesn't understand that he isn't actually as popular as the blue haired white house interns have been swearing he is for the last two years, and his personality was already spiteful and vindictive before the dementia set in. And the Democrats are the party of "accuse others of what you intend to do".

If Biden becomes lame duck after these midterms and it looks like he might actually lose 2024 I wonder if his retarded ass will try to do an actual coup or some other shit.
If Trump didn't have the balls to do anything about the election being stolen in front of his eyes in 2020 while still in office then the soy-goblins controlling Biden definitely won't have the balls to do anything either. They'll rev up the voter fraud machine as high as they can get it and bitch about "Our Democracy™" and facism on Twitter, and they might even ship a few palettes of bricks to support their fiery but peaceful protests, but that's all.
 
That being said I don't think things are as strained as some here think between Trump and DeSantis. Trump made a comment about him? And? So what? It wasn't even that strong of a shot, Trump has said worse things to active allies. The GOPe is making overtures to him? And? What could they promise him he will not already have?
Could be that he's just shit-testing DeSantis to see how he'll react if at all.
Trump taking a potshot at DeSantis gets the retards to instantly focus on that *and* gets them to start promoting DeSantis instead of focusing on the weird "he partied with students" narrative and try to bring him down.
Could be. I don't trust DeSantis in any position higher than the one he's in now, but that would be a very Trump thing to do to get heat off of an ally.
If Trump didn't have the balls to do anything about the election being stolen in front of his eyes in 2020 while still in office
Trump did though and they won't shut the fuck up about it. Trump was a political outsider who very suddenly found out the hard way that the establishment GOP that he thought was at least somewhat amiable towards him was trying its damnedest to sink him. It's not that he didn't try, he and any efforts he made were stymied by the courts including the USSC.

Biden wouldn't really have that problem so much. But he's so unbelievably unpopular that his hands are tied, I would think, anyhow.
 
Could be. I don't trust DeSantis in any position higher than the one he's in now, but that would be a very Trump thing to do to get heat off of an ally.
It could also be for something else I'm just not seeing. I don't trust DeSantis much either, but I just found it super coincidental that I saw a "DeSantis does some questionable things as a teacher" post and then like an hour later the entire night seemed to become dominated by Trump Vs DeSantis talk again.

Either way, I'm convinced it's all just more media manipulation by Trump.
 
Interesting things I've observed.

*the Walker attack ads have cooled down some

*far more effective attack ads against Warnock have shown up with a new "sponsored by senate leadership fund"

*Walker Is getting Fox News interviews and Rino support he didnt have before all of a sudden

The Georgia Rinos smell blood in the water. And want to show they "helped" Walker. Im also guessing resources Warnock had access to are getting rerouted to races that werent supposed to be competitive.
 
It could also be for something else I'm just not seeing. I don't trust DeSantis much either, but I just found it super coincidental that I saw a "DeSantis does some questionable things as a teacher" post and then like an hour later the entire night seemed to become dominated by Trump Vs DeSantis talk again.

Either way, I'm convinced it's all just more media manipulation by Trump.
DeSantis has taken 100mil of donor money for a campaign that he will win by double digits. When the FBI raids happened he waited days to respond and then only via his personal Twitter, only once and has gone out of his way not to mention Trump by name. About 4 months ago there was a big clear out in his staff. GOP operatives were put in place at every level, he's now surrounded by DC insiders . So of course he's being groomed to run against Trump, but I think it goes way further than that. Look at the corporate donation lists for the midterms, especially the super PAC money. The multinationals are abandoning the Dems and going all in on the GOP. It's apparent that with rising interest rates and energy shortages the ESG business model has died a death with the sudden realisation that ZIRP and the free money spigot is gone for good and it's back to the old boring days of turning a profit and running a business with positive cashflow. The corporates not only want DeSantis as an alternative to Trump they want DeSantis as POTUS end of story. Whoever wins the GOP primary will be President, so for sure I expect plenty of fireworks in the months ahead.
 
Interesting things I've observed.

*the Walker attack ads have cooled down some

*far more effective attack ads against Warnock have shown up with a new "sponsored by senate leadership fund"

*Walker Is getting Fox News interviews and Rino support he didnt have before all of a sudden

The Georgia Rinos smell blood in the water. And want to show they "helped" Walker. Im also guessing resources Warnock had access to are getting rerouted to races that werent supposed to be competitive.
That last bit is definitely true. There's money getting rerouted to NY, for example, because Zeldin has a decent chance of unseating Hochul.

This is where Gehenna's comments about empty pockets in the DNC come into play. If you have finite resources, where do you pour them? Losing NY would be horrendous for the Dems from both an image standpoint and a political one. Ditto for a number of other races.
 
Desantis is 44 he will be 50 if he Runs after Trump's second term.
I agree with your post but I want to give a different viewpoint which is that any Republican running after whoever the next president is might have a very rough time of it because the US economy is a timebomb. In the midterms we're looking at either a heavy tip to Red or massive electoral fuckery. This is the last election before the US tips from unacknowledged Hard Times to undeniable Hard Times. 2024 will take place against a backdrop of major economic and social problems is my belief. That wont hinder a Republican win and could quite possibly help it. BUT a lot of people think in very short timespans. When it rolls around to 2028 and times are still very hard they'll likely blame the incumbent despite that these things have a major lag. And that incumbent will probably be a Republican. Meaning the 2028 Republican candidate is fighting uphill. It might not be the election that DeSantis wants to fight. He might prefer to wait.
 
I agree with your post but I want to give a different viewpoint which is that any Republican running after whoever the next president is might have a very rough time of it because the US economy is a timebomb. In the midterms we're looking at either a heavy tip to Red or massive electoral fuckery. This is the last election before the US tips from unacknowledged Hard Times to undeniable Hard Times. 2024 will take place against a backdrop of major economic and social problems is my belief. That wont hinder a Republican win and could quite possibly help it. BUT a lot of people think in very short timespans. When it rolls around to 2028 and times are still very hard they'll likely blame the incumbent despite that these things have a major lag. And that incumbent will probably be a Republican. Meaning the 2028 Republican candidate is fighting uphill. It might not be the election that DeSantis wants to fight. He might prefer to wait.
Counterpoint, yes people do have short memories, so a swing from "really shit" to "less shit" on the economic side could do wonders.
 
That last bit is definitely true. There's money getting rerouted to NY, for example, because Zeldin has a decent chance of unseating Hochul.

This is where Gehenna's comments about empty pockets in the DNC come into play. If you have finite resources, where do you pour them? Losing NY would be horrendous for the Dems from both an image standpoint and a political one. Ditto for a number of other races.
I think another pertinent question is how much they'll have in their coffers in 2024 at this rate. They already borrowed hard against future payouts to rig 2020, and from my understanding of what Gehenna has said they still haven't made any real headway on the principal of that debit, just interest. Obviously their donors will have more cash on hand by that point, but unless you're a true believer like Soros a lot of people are going to be looking at hedging their bets between now and then, especially if things are as bloody as we think they're going to be come Tuesday. Why bet on a losing horse with a bum leg when the payout is the same as a healthy one?
 
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That's why the Rinos are blowing smoke up his ass. Inflating his ego so that he goes "Fuck Florida. I want the presidency."
Ah, so that's what the rinos are reminding me of:

All hail, Desantis! Hail to thee, Thane of Glamis!
All hail, Desantis! Hail to thee, Thane of Cawdor!
All hail, Desantis, that shalt be king hereafter!
 
Desantis would be the heir if he waited, but its percieved 2024 will be a win for Republicans as the electorate will want to be done with Biden and any Dem replacing him will have an anchor around their neck.

It becomes tempting to get the "guaranteed" win in 2024. Also Desantis is former glowie isnt he? He's just reading the room and his shift from norm rinos is just hitting back at corporations that are openly committed to destroying you instead of always sucking corpo cock. Thats not a big shift.
 
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