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75% OF MEN ARE TOO SCARED TO CHAT UP WOMEN


Men are scared to chat women up for fear of saying the wrong thing a new study has revealed. Three quarters won’t approach a romantic interest for fear of saying the wrong thing or in case it is inappropriate.

Nearly four in ten (39%) men said that #metoo had hurt their loves lives, as did over a quarter of women (27%). While more than a third (38%) of those surveyed said they’d been approached less since #metoo. But two thirds of all singles (66%) said they’d like to be approached more by potential dates.

The research of 1,000 singles, commissioned by dating app happn, found that 72% of men didn’t think it was acceptable to tell someone they look beautiful. More than half (52%) felt the same way about extending an invitation for a drink and two thirds (69%) didn’t think it was acceptable to ask someone out to dinner.

However 65% of women said that they would laugh at a saucy chat up line and only 4% said they’d be offended. Can I get you a drink was deemed the most appropriate chat up line by (48%), followed by: you’re looking very beautiful today (26%).

The cheesy approach is less popular as only 8% of women said the chat up line: did it hurt when you fell from heaven was acceptable. But one in ten women were open to saucy lines and said: do you fancy breakfast in the morning, was an acceptable thing to say. However they drew the line at: you’ve got great boobs, which only 5% felt comfortable with.

Nearly two thirds (61%) of men said they feel more comfortable instigating romance online. While 30% like to find dates through apps and online.

Dating trends expert at happn says: “It is positive to see that #metoo has created such a tangible cultural shift. Men are conscious of being respectful in their language and their approach, which can only be a good thing when it comes to instigating a relationship. It is also positive to see that women are open to being approached in the right way in most situations and that the digital space is creating an environment where all singles feel comfortable and safe in approaching each other.”

 

[Zyklon Ben's Poison Pen]

There are a lot of women out there who feel the opposite way.
They don't want to have relationships with men, if it means becoming a second class citizen, being treated poorly and having an uncertain future, should a younger model come along.
Historically speaking, men haven't treated wives that great and have gotten away with it due to social and cultural "values".

For example : if a man left a woman, which historically happened a lot, she would be left with the kids, with financial problems, etc. It wasn't an easy life for the kids nor the woman. That was socially acceptable. It was also socially acceptable to beat the woman to "keep her in line". No one wants to give up their life to be at the whim of someone else.
What you describe as "stacking against men" is a completely new thing. It wasn't the way a century ago or even 50 years ago.

Having said that, the very vast majority of people out there today, male or female, are unbearable thots with no sense of morality or common sense.

Bullshit.

And I'll leave it at that.

 

[God of Nothing]

There are a lot of women out there who feel the opposite way.
They don't want to have relationships with men, if it means becoming a second class citizen, being treated poorly and having an uncertain future, should a younger model come along.
Historically speaking, men haven't treated wives that great and have gotten away with it due to social and cultural "values".

For example : if a man left a woman, which historically happened a lot, she would be left with the kids, with financial problems, etc. It wasn't an easy life for the kids nor the woman. That was socially acceptable. It was also socially acceptable to beat the woman to "keep her in line". No one wants to give up their life to be at the whim of someone else.
What you describe as "stacking against men" is a completely new thing. It wasn't the way a century ago or even 50 years ago.

Having said that, the very vast majority of people out there today, male or female, are unbearable thots with no sense of morality or common sense.

If a man left a woman, his friends and family would sit him down, beat the shit out of him, and tell him to stop being a retard. Marriage is a commitment to death. If the vows are broken, then there's grounds for annulment. You have no idea what you're actually talking about. It was one thing to slap a woman. Punch her? The treatment I described earlier.

Where does this fantasy world where men got to do whatever they want come from? You do realize most men just got sent out into the world to die, right? Abusive fathers and men were either corrected by the village or made outcasts. This hostile behavior you describe in men is unusual and counter-productive, something that's only really tolerated now because of how much deference the people give on to the state. Keep in mind, we used to lynch people half a century ago. It wasn't a racial thing either: that's just how we dealt with murderers, rapists, and molesters.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

They don't want to have relationships with men, if it means becoming a second class citizen, being treated poorly and having an uncertain future, should a younger model come along.

Which really tells you the kind of men they regularly hunt for. Seriously-- you really think the average man has the luxury of trading out for younger women ad infinitum? Much less the desire to?

 

[Beak Thing]

I work for a smaller employer now but for the past few years I worked for a large corporation. I always felt uneasy being alone with a female employee unless I knew them well and trusted them. It has never been like that before at anywhere else i worked.

Another guy who worked there got purged for sexual harassment, it was such a strange situation I know it was BS to get rid of him for something else, maybe wrongthink. You don't let a credible case of sexual harassment keep working for a month while looking for another job. Glad I got out, the politics and political agitation was becoming honestly unbearable.

Also, my gay brothers...you can't use that as a defense. The Believe All Women card trumps the gay card, just like the troon card trumps Believe All Women.

 

[Matt Damon]

She's likely thinking "This guy treats me like shit, thank god for society granting me the ability to divorce him".

Or "now that we have three kids and a mortgage, the magic is gone and I deserve better".

You specifically brought up men trading in for a younger model, after all - I think it's very disingenuous to assume the most sympathetic female rationale for initiating divorce and the  least sympathetic male one are the average/standard.

 

[Übertroon]

For example : if a man left a woman, which historically happened a lot, she would be left with the kids, with financial problems, etc. It wasn't an easy life for the kids nor the woman. That was socially acceptable. It was also socially acceptable to beat the woman to "keep her in line". No one wants to give up their life to be at the whim of someone else.

Leaving a woman has never been socially acceptable in polite society. That's why you had literally shotgun weddings back in the day.
Abandoning the mother of your children was always reserved for scum and black culture.
I suspect you're conflating the act happening with it being socially acceptable, yes, fathers did abandon families, but you also had the opposite problem of women abandoning their family, or the problem of spousal murder, or like you pointed out domestic violence.
Hitting your wife was socially acceptable though, but so was hitting your kids. And women don't get to pretend they didn't hit their husband or children either, it just has never been as dangerous as the violence from a man because of biological differences.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

Good.

Just buy a sex robot.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Please also note that approximately 80% of men are deemed below attractive.

I agree with most of your post, but I have to call out this stat when I see it. I'm assuming you're referring to that OKCupid study, which I could go into extensive detail about why it's full of shit if you'd like to read that level of autism.

The dating scene sucks, but it is not that cartoonishly bad. Don't get bogged down for no reason.

 

[TenMilesWide]

Good.

Just buy a sex robot.

If you have one or more functioning hand(s), you do not need a sex robot.

 

[NOT Sword Fighter Super]

If you have one or more functioning hand(s), you do not need a sex robot.

Gets boring after a while.

 

[Absolutego]

There are a lot of women out there who feel the opposite way.
They don't want to have relationships with men, if it means becoming a second class citizen, being treated poorly and having an uncertain future, should a younger model come along.
Historically speaking, men haven't treated wives that great and have gotten away with it due to social and cultural "values".

For example : if a man left a woman, which historically happened a lot, she would be left with the kids, with financial problems, etc. It wasn't an easy life for the kids nor the woman. That was socially acceptable. It was also socially acceptable to beat the woman to "keep her in line". No one wants to give up their life to be at the whim of someone else.
What you describe as "stacking against men" is a completely new thing. It wasn't the way a century ago or even 50 years ago.

Having said that, the very vast majority of people out there today, male or female, are unbearable thots with no sense of morality or common sense.

It isn't the 1870's anymore, and even back then the men took the kids with them.
The only reason deadbeat dads became socially tolerable was because single moms had Daddy Government to replace them. You blame the problem women voted into existence on the men who took advantage of it.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

However 65% of women said that they would laugh at a saucy chat up line and only 4% said they’d be offended. Can I get you a drink was deemed the most appropriate chat up line by (48%), followed by: you’re looking very beautiful today (26%).

The cheesy approach is less popular as only 8% of women said the chat up line: did it hurt when you fell from heaven was acceptable. But one in ten women were open to saucy lines and said: do you fancy breakfast in the morning, was an acceptable thing to say. However they drew the line at: you’ve got great boobs, which only 5% felt comfortable with.

Neogaf Lurker touched on this, but I think it's important if you seriously want to actually study dating dynamics and start asking women questions about pick-up lines, you need to provide them a face with the line to react to, or that data is worse than useless.

Of course she'll picture a Chadly fellow saying the line if you don't attempt to control for this, why wouldn't she?

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

I agree with most of your post, but I have to call out this stat when I see it. I'm assuming you're referring to that OKCupid study, which I could go into extensive detail about why it's full of shit if you'd like to read that level of autism.

The dating scene sucks, but it is not that cartoonishly bad. Don't get bogged down for no reason.

The 80/20 rule originates from somewhere else, don't remember where. However I agree it's not exactly correct.

This is not an affect of the Metoo movement. People in general have always been scared of hitting up the opposite sex. It isn't exclusive to men or women. As usual, bugpeople only think in the past 10 years and memoryhole anything prior. And as usual, the incels, scorned men, come in here using this article to validate their poltical beliefs. An article like this is more of a dopamine hit for them than a woman finding them attractive and wanting to be with them.

No they have not lol. There's a difference between having anxieties approaching the first time and being literally afraid or having a majority throw in the towel towards relationships from men. Women never usually approached outside of celebrities and or chads or potentially childhood friends when applicable. Tell me you tell all your female friends your gay without telling me you behave like that because it shows. If you're not a man than typical bullshit artistry.

Maybe it's less a validation for incels and scorned men, and more a validation that again something is completely rotting inside dating dynamics these days and there is no way to spin it anymore unlike when all studies were trying to paint a pretty picture of women and their behaviors. Not so anymore. Going to defend most women having no talent at cooking or being anything other than narcissistic nutjobs these days on average too? Then again the post reeks of inexperience with actually talking to women so go figure on that hypocrisy.

 

[Kheapathic]

Neogaf Lurker touched on this, but I think it's important if you seriously want to actually study dating dynamics and start asking women questions about pick-up lines, you need to provide them a face with the line to react to, or that data is worse than useless.

Of course she'll picture a Chadly fellow saying the line if you don't attempt to control for this, why wouldn't she?

I wish I could find the study; but there was a dating study done, and it sounds like a mess to explain without it handy. But they interviewed women about what they look for; got generic nice, sweet, funny, kind, etc answers. But when accounting for behavior, they were always chasing Chad Thundercock who treated them like a fuck doll.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

The 80/20 rule originates from somewhere else, don't remember where. However I agree it's not exactly correct.

Are you referring to the 80/20 rule where 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes? I don't think that applies to dating in that way, and it's not exactly a hard law of the universe in the first place.

I single out the OKC study because in all my years of monitoring incel communities I have only ever seen that one study referenced for the "20% of men get 80% of women" notion. If there's some other source for that idea I'd be really interested in seeing it.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Are you referring to the 80/20 rule where 80% of consequences come from 20% of causes? I don't think that applies to dating in that way, and it's not exactly a hard law of the universe in the first place.

I single out the OKC study because in all my years of monitoring incel communities I have only ever seen that one study referenced for the "20% of men get 80% of women" notion. If there's some other source for that idea I'd be really interested in seeing it.

Nah in many "manosphere" and dating circles for years, there's been a quip about how 80% of women are looking for the top 20% of men. In recent years due to studies some men have claimed it's something like the 90ish% of women are seeking only the top 5-10% of men. It predates OKC from what I know or at least I'm pretty sure that's not where it originated. OKC study might have been used to reinforce the belief in it though.

In regards to disagreeing with it on my own personal belief, although there is some truth the top 20% do get a significant amount of women, there are still random men who are not of that 20% that also draw women. I'm not sure of the total and I'd wager the percentage isn't that much better but it's not that bad. (or as bad as the belief it's changed to 90%-5% or whatever the new belief is.)

 

[Idiotron]

This is not an affect of the Metoo movement. People in general have always been scared of hitting up the opposite sex. It isn't exclusive to men or women. As usual, bugpeople only think in the past 10 years and memoryhole anything prior. And as usual, the incels, scorned men, come in here using this article to validate their poltical beliefs. An article like this is more of a dopamine hit for them than a woman finding them attractive and wanting to be with them.

Yeah, that's cute but in the past, you didn't have to worry about being labelled a sexual predator on social media and never getting a good job again in your life, all because some woman didn't like the way you chatted her up.
Let's not get started on corporate workplaces, where now men often wear bodycams because they want to have evidence of every moment they spent at work in case of an accusation.
Hardly anybody is forming long term relationships or having kids.
Things are definitely not like they always have been.
I'm ancient enough to have dated before the invention of social media and shit was so much better without dating apps and OnlyFans and rabid feminists.

Dating trends expert at happn says: “It is positive to see that #metoo has created such a tangible cultural shift. Men are conscious of being respectful in their language and their approach, which can only be a good thing when it comes to instigating a relationship. It is also positive to see that women are open to being approached in the right way in most situations and that the digital space is creating an environment where all singles feel comfortable and safe in approaching each other.”

Yes, it's positive that men are crazy paranoid about talking to women.
That will only bring benefits to our society.

 

[God of Nothing]

I wish I could find the study; but there was a dating study done, and it sounds like a mess to explain without it handy. But they interviewed women about what they look for; got generic nice, sweet, funny, kind, etc answers. But when accounting for behavior, they were always chasing Chad Thundercock who treated them like a fuck doll.

It's the dual mating strategy

TL;DW: Women want Mr. Nice Guy as a husband but they want Chad Thundercock to fuck them.

They are blissfully unaware or playfully ignorant of that. The reason why they cry for men to man up or to stop being jerks is because they want those men to be Mr. Nice Guy. Except, they can afford not to be.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Reminder that women don’t know what the fuck they want.

Spoiler

Tell them they have nice tits and they’ll be pissed off but they’ll respond. Figure out the rest.

Your comment's controversial, but some guy took me through something he did on Tinder where his first photo was him working out at the gym while his profile involved an extensive list of requirements, one of them being "check your attitude at the door" or something to that effect.

He got several responses from angry women, who then proceeded to carry on conversations with him ostensibly to stick it to him. The first question being, why did they swipe right on someone that irritated them so? I get it, it's Tinder, it's not exactly representative of the general population-- but those are still social women.

I suspect "women don't know what they want" is a severe oversimplification of the matter, but I also recall that @Lemmingwise described several examples of exactly that.

 

[Kheapathic]

Your comment's controversial, but some guy took me through something he did on Tinder where his first photo was him working out at the gym while his profile involved an extensive list of requirements, one of them being "check your attitude at the door" or something to that effect.

He got several responses from angry women, who then proceeded to carry on conversations with him ostensibly to stick it to him. The first question being, why did they swipe right on someone that irritated them so?

I suspect "women don't know what they want" is a severe oversimplification of the matter, but then I recall that @Lemmingwise described several examples of exactly that.

You ever hear of the Tinder experiment where dude put up a male model picture; but description was something like "I'm a convicted sex offender who raped children." Lots of female attention that one.